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Like everybody else, I can't believe how many people have this!  I've had this same pain on my URQ for 6 months or so. Another symptom is numbness in my left pinkie which started before the pain, so guess I'll go with the pinched nerve theory for now  I'm joining this community so I can learn more.  Thanks for all the input.
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Hi there:
I also have numbness in my limbs that started within a year of my RUQ abdominal pain.  It's been diagnosed as moderate (5/10) Carpal Tunnel Syndrome but that doesn't explain why my feet, legs, arms and hands go numb when they are resting.  It's akin to having your feet fall asleep when you're resting or leaning on them the wrong way but it happens all the time.  What is happening with your pinkie, if you don't mind sharing?  I'm curious.  Is it peripheral neuropathy or nerve damage or do you know?  Are you having any other neurological issues like impaired gait or balance or dropping things?  Have you had seizures at all?
All the best to you and yours!  Take care of yourselves and each other,
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Wow, I am blown  away at all the posts about URQ pain. I have been experiencing it for two months now with no resolve. My pain is consistent in the same area as if there is some foreign object there that doesn't belong. It gets worse with sitting and laying on that side. The only slight relief is laying down. I find I have trouble breathing or it just seems like I take more deep breaths. But my lungs were clear when my doc checked.

I have had no gallbladder for 4 yrs, and a partial hysterectomy (7 yrs ago). So far the docs have checked for blood clots, both with blood tests and a CT Scan, checked my liver function, a chest xray and now I am scheduled for a check of my bladder (with the camera) and an ultrasound of my kidneys. After reading all these posts it appears that I'm gonna be searching for this cause for some time. I'm glad I found out that I am not the only one though :).

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I too have been having pain almost oj my side below my righr rib cage. My doctor tested for H-Pylori, which came back positive. My doctor started me on two different antibiotics which after the first week made my pain subside. I finished the antibiotic and a few days went by and the pain came back. I am following up with primary care for further treatment.
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This will be a really long post but if I knew this when I first became sick, it would have saved me a lot of grief.  I hope someone gets some use out of it.  Just remember that I'm not a doctor and I know jack about medicine.  

The first step is to know how your digestive system works.  In my humble opinion, the "First Principles of Gastroenterology" is the best resource:  http://gastroresource.com/GITextbook/en/Default.htm.  If the link is gone, check out gastroresource ******* and look for the GI Textbook.  

Most of us question whether we have SOD or Pancreatitis.  Even though many doctors think these are rare illnesses, they are becomming more and more common!  The pancreas can be damaged every single time we have pain.  Imagine a little, tiny scar forming on your pancreas whenever you have an attack.  The pancreas is a very unforgiving organ.  It doesn't heal, so you really need to minimize attacks if you can.  I've been told that an excellent way to do that is by taking pancreatic enzymes.  Many Docs prescribe these automatically when you have pancreatitis or SOD.  Others aren't even aware of them.  They can be purchased at health food stores, too, if you can't get a prescription but make sure the ONLY ingredients are amylase, lipase and protease.  Some contain acids, too, and that's bad news.  There are many types of enzymes on the market and they are not all created equal.  Some are sustained-action enzymes, some are immediate-release enzymes.  Not only do you have to find the right enzyme(s) for you but you need to find the right dosages at the right times.  I have a ton of links about enzymes, write me for them if you need them.  In some cases, the enzymes reduce scar tissue from building up and seriously damaging your pancreas.  

Food is a serious factor, so a journal tracking everything that goes into or comes out of your body is a great way to can track things that potentially cause problems.  It's useful to track foods, beverages, medicines and/or activities because they all count.  

Almost everyone go through a period when they don't know what is wrong with them.  It's common to doubt your symptoms or your sanity.  If you have always been a very sane, capable and honest person who doesn't overstate your symptoms, it definitely isn't psychosomatic.  It's physical, it's real and it's devastating.  

Many of us are undiagnosed or have been misdiagnosed.  A label of Irritable Bowel Syndrome [IBS] or Irritable Bowel Disease [IBD] is the most common cop-out.  It's true that we may have more than one health issue, so maybe an IBS/IBD diagnosis is warranted.  Usually it's a Gastroenterologist's way of saying, 'I don't know what's wrong.  It's idiopathic and the symptoms fit the IBS/IBD category."  

When you are suffering so severely for such a long period of time, it's not uncommon to become malnourished or for your immune system to be compromised.  When that happens, it opens a gateway for many other syndromes/diseases to grab a foothold.  Remember that more than one thing can be wrong with you, so don't dismiss something because your symptoms won't fit neatly into a specific category.  Consider everything.

Personal support systems are fragile.  People get tired of hearing about and/or talking about illness.  For me, my illness is my whole life now but others expect me to get on with it or get over it.  Many people assume - or take for granted - that I would have recovered by now.   When they learn that I haven't, they have limited their contact or removed themselves from my life.  You may even find that your spouse, siblings or parents aren't as supportive as they once were.  It hurts but it's basic human nature.  

Please read the "spoon theory".  It is incredibly helpful and a MUST-READ for everyone: http://www.butyoudontlooksick.com/navigation/BYDLS-TheSpoonTheory.pdf.  This is a great site, in general.  If the link is blocked out, search for "But You Don't Look Sick" and find the "Spoon Theory."  Read it, copy it and remember it!

Forums that are really helpful.  They are no-charge forums, similar to this one and they offer a wealth of information.  Research articles plus information and/or support from others who are going through the same things we are now really makes a difference.  For me, it was really useful to hear about tests from others who had already been there.  If you visit Yahoo Groups and search for "Sphincter of Oddi", "Undiagnosed| or "Pancreatitis", you'll come up with a list of suitable groups.  After that, it's just a matter of choosing which one seems to suit you best.  Also, www dot top5plus5 ******* is an amazing resource and I have permission to share the site but MedHelp sometimes blocks it out.  Feel free to message me if you need other links.  

In my humble opinion, the best we can hope for (right now) is to manage our symptoms as best we can, recognize and embrace our limitations and keep fighting for diagnosis(es) and plan(s) of action that will help us get well and get on with our lives.  Whether or not we can resume our old lives is something else entirely.  You'll find your own way and your own coping mechanisms.  My attitude is the only thing I can control right now, I try to stay as positive and helpful as I possibly can and I try to limit my neediness so as not to be a huge burden on those I love.  Even at that, I sometimes get blue and isolate myself for a while.  

It is so helpful if you have someone who can advocate for you and attend medical appointments.  Choose carefully because you need someone you can count on and it's best if they don't have to take time off work, if at all possible.  It's also helpful to request any reports or test results AS they are conducted.  Easier to ask for one report than 20 or 30 and Docs are less likely to charge you for one report.

All the best to you and yours!  Take care of yourselves and each other,

Sam  
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I have lost 50ibs since December with Stomach/Digestive issues. It has been a nightmare. I am on my second Gastro Doctor begging for someone to help me. What sent me to the Dr was pain as soon as food begins to digest right under my ribs to the top part of my belly. It feels like I am so full/or intense pressure.. very painful. Another issue was Floating stool. I never have had floating stool but since Feb of this year it floats. I can not eat fatty foods everything comes right back out.. my stool is very greezy little less the pain of eating fatty foods. Spicy Foods are out of the question, no salads.. really lots of foods do not settle. My Lipase levels have been elevated by 10 - 20 points since March. At first the Dr told me I had pancratitis then after 8 weeks and a MRI and Endoscope with a camera they decided it wasnt pancreatits however could not tell me why my lipase levels remain elevated. They did find 2 small stones in my galbladder however it is 80% working so during a surgeon consultation he felt that the Galbladder was not my issue. I have a Great Aunt with similar issues that was diagnosed with Celiac Desease.. I have had a blood test for this.. however it came back negative. I have been tested for Chrons, IBS, IBD etc all negative. I do take medicine for IBS because it helps to calm the cramping in my stomach.
My second Endoscope concluded I have Gastritis, Barrets Esophagus and a hiatus hernia at the top of my stomach however the my Gastro DR doesnt think this is causing the weight loss, pain and symphoms. I go for my second surgeon consultation Monday. This Surgeon wants to see my MRI and CT films so I hope he may notice something that can help me. I am desperate to gain weight again and be normal. I know what it is like to not have answers. I am so tired of people asking me about my weight. I am a 5.5' female and currently weigh 116ibs.. I look too thin and frail compareed to the way everyone is use to seeing me. I just want to be healthy and regain energy so i can play with my children. So for all those that do not have an answer.. over $3K in testing and I am still searching for answers.
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I have been dealing with URQ pain for years and have had every test under the sun done except a pressure test on a muscle in the pancreas, only because that ran a 20% risk of becoming very ill.  My doctors were not treating my pain since they couldnt find what was wrong so there must not really be anything.  I finally went to my family doctor and told her I couldnt afford to go to the er anymore and I couldnt deal with this constant pain so she referred me to a pain management doctor.  My first visit after talking to him and him feeling my URQ he said I had tendinitis in my diaphragm.  I received a steroid shot right into the tendon there and have not had an attack that has sent me to the er since. I still have pain so I do still have shots every few months but it is getting better, I figure I have had this for years so it probably wont go away within 3 months but so far so good and I now have hope for a full recovery
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I'm so happy to hear that your suffering has lessened.  It's so difficult to be undiagnosed or misdiagnosed.  There seem to be SO many of us and someone should really, seriously investigate this.  Even if only 5% of us have legitimate issues, that's tens of thousands of peoples suffering from undiagnosed RUQ/URQ pain.  Hopefully your post will offer new avenues of investigation to others who are suffering!  Thank you!  I wish you a complete and permanent recovery!  All the best to you and yours.  Take care of yourselves and each other,
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How was the shot. Like a cortisone shot?   I have had  URQ pain for  3 years.   all tests clear on liver, gall bladder ,kidney, ovaries.   Have some IBS. I had shingles before this pain started. I am amazed so many people have this and that it remains undiagnosed. I had no idea. I have always been healthy and never sick m  Has the liver cleansing helped anyone..  Is this muscular? I do have hernia in mid center but dr says no connection.  
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OMG, this is insane.  I've been bothered with very similar complaints for the past3 months.  It started as mild discomfort on the right side and then intensified and began including lower middle abdominal pains, stomach/bowel problems, etc.  The RUQ is always there, and most uncomfortable early evenings as I'm sitting down watching TV or reading, then improves when I lay down in bed.
I don't think I can name all the tests my MD's have put me through... 3 CT scans, 2 ultrasounds, several blood tests, 2 abdominal xrays, urine test, 2 digital rectal exams, HIDA scan, endoscopy, colonoscopy... all results coming back "normal" or no problems found!  the other day I had an MR Angiogram of the stomach/abdomen and am awaiting results.
I'm at wits end and getting desperate!
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I'm so sorry you are suffering.  I posted some notes above that might help.  Seriously, logging your intake/outtake and symptoms helps find patterns and I've heard that enzymes can sometimes eliminate the pain.  Vist top five plus five ******* for some really great information and an excellent forum, even if you are undiagnosed.  Hopefully your GI will stick with you until you find an answer but for many of us, once the testing is completed, that's the end of their involvement and it makes it impossible to find someone else in the field to start again.  You might want to check out minimal change chronic pancreatitis and sphincter of oddi dysfunction.
Hang in there and all the best to you and yours,
Sam
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I have the same type of RUQ pain, and its been going on for past month.  I am an otherwise healthy 30 yr old male.  Internal Medicine doctor immediately thought is was gallstones/sludge given location and type of pain.  In addition to blood work internal medicine doctor ordered Ultrasound and CT Scan, both of which were "unremarkable" (i.e. normal).  He then sent me to a GI doctor who ordered more blood work, and an Endoscopy, and then subsequently a MRCP, all of which again were completely normal.  GI doctor said that other than a HIDA scan there isn't really anything more he can do.  GI doctor just told me to take 600-800mg of Ibuprofen 3 times per day for a week (with prilosec to protect stomach), and "see what happens".  Has anyone tried this?  He said to only bother with the HIDA scan if the anti-inflammatory routine doesnt work.

I was really worried that this was liver disease and/or pancreatitis.  GI doctor says that based on ultrasound, CT scan, endoscopy and MRCP, there is no way that this abdominal pain is related to liver disease and/or pancreatitis.  My job requires a lot of travel and entertaining (i.e. social drinking).  GI doctor said that there is "no risk" from social drinking, and I am safe to get back to "work".  Does this sound right?  Is there anyway that all four tests and blood work missed liver disease and/or pancreatitis?



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I'm so sorry you're going through this, too.  I sincerely hope the meds he prescribed work.  The lengths you've gone to, going through all those tests and seeing an IM, you must really be hurting.  If you're still hurting and if the HIDA comes back "normal", perhaps you could see a GI who knows about the pancreas.  Tests are often "normal" with many diseases.  The HIDA will let you know if your gallbladder is functioning well.  If the ejection fraction rate between 35% and 79% is usually considered normal; below 35% is possibly not functioning or diseased and over 80% could be hypokinetic.  

Your symptoms could be SO many things including sludge/stones/dilation in the common bile duct, IBS, gallbladder/gallstone problems, IBD, Sphincter of Oddi Dysfunction, Small Bowel Bacterial Overgrowth, acute pancreatitis, chronic pancreatitis, autoimmune pancreatitis, Celiac, minimal change chronic pancreatitis, etc.  If they don't find textbook symptoms or if the "usual" cures don't work, people are often "written off" as drug- or attention-seeking, especially when the results of the tests are "normal".  It's tragic because I don't know anyone who wouldn't rather be out living their life than existing in agony, waiting for answers.

D\iet often helps.  A low-fat diet without anything fried is a great start.  Keep a detailed log of all your intake and output and look for patterns with your pain.  One thing that sometimes helps some people is pancreatic enzymes, as I mentioned above.  Something you can talk to your doctor about.

Check out the GI Textbook link above.  You might find some information there that helps.  

I wish you all the best and hope you recover quickly.

Sam
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I read your profile and it sounds exactly what I am dealng with. Pressure in stomach/top part of my stomach, floating stool, fullness after eating very little, RUQ pain.  I have had an Endoscope with camera, HIDA scan, many blood tests all of which come back normal.  I have lost a lot of weight as well.  I am scheduled for a CT scan and from there, I just don't know.  I feel for you as I know how hard this is to keep trying to figure out what is wrong.  My symptoms started 3 months ago out of the clear blue.  I do have Gallbladder stones, but my GI doctor said they are not in the bile ducts and therefore, he doesn't always recomment taking out the Gallbladder.  Yet I've read and talked with people who had their Gallbladder out and did fine and yet when I read this forum, so many experience the exact opposite.  It so hard to know what is the right thing to do.  Once it's out there is no turning back.  For now, I'm not planning on taking my Gallbladder out, since all tests keep coming back normal.  However, like you, something is wrong, and doctors don't seem to want to keep on going once the basic tests are ran.  Maybe if they read these forums, some doctors would follow through and realize there is a growing problem out here and more research needs to be done. Keep on searching and don't give up.  I wish you the absolute best and hopefully you will find help.  Take care.  

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Does anyone know to what extent RUQ abdominal pain can be caused by a pinched nerve or something similar?  How would such a problem be diagnosed?

My GI doctor asserts that I do not have any gastrointestinal problems despite the fact that location of pain, which makes sense that I have no digestive issues, and that blood tests, ultrasound, CT scan, endoscopy and MRCP didn't show any issues.

What other causes should be considered?
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I'm not a believer in misery-loves-company, but it's comforting to know that I'm not the only one... Just have not experienced it as long. RUQ pain has probably been off and on for awhile (but chalked up to previous diagnosis of IBS). Fat Malabsorption started suddenly over labor day weekend. First thought was that it was just stress related to moving, new city, new job, but had to cancel an international business trip two weeks ago to come back because the malabsorption symptoms were scaring me.

Seeing an internal medicine doctor. What I like is he is being very systematic about finding out what is wrong... (didn't jump to IBS, celiac disease, etc).  So, we will see where it goes. So far, slightly elevated Lipase levels (50-90, he said 500 would start worrying him, but we will watch in case it fluctuates and this is a down point.)... H. Pylori infection (proteins show it's been there for over 4 weeks) - This is the fun one, because not enough is known about what all it can affect and so many people have it without issues. It seems to have a relationship to a number of different intestinal issues though (gastritis, pancreatitis, gallsotones, etc). His position is it could definitely cause the RUQ pain and the malabsorption, so we need to kill it off to rule it out and then move forward from that point. Taking the priolosec/antibiotic regimen, now.

The "something else" in my situation was  that CT scan showed an enlarged appendix. Not acute appendicitis. Could have been chronic, could have been nothing. Because I have had periodic (minor) RLQ pain, I opted to have it removed because I know I would be worrying forevermore at every twinge. Doc has researched and found some research showing appendicitis patients with known H. Pylori do have H. Pylori in infected appendix. So, this may have been another causal relationship. Pathology of my appendix did show chronic appendicitis. This is a very rare situation and Dr. feels it may share cause but would not cause any of the issues of the malabsorption or RUQ pain. So, no rushing out for appendix removal recommended.

I'll be done with antibiotic regimen this week. Coupled with abdominal surgery & the pain meds for a week, my intestines probably don't know which way is up. Malabsorption continues (lost 20# since labor day). Surgeon did a look-around during appendectomy, and noticed some scarring on gall bladder. I guess ultrasound will be next.

*Hoping* for some resolution in the future. The weight loss is scaring me.
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Just found this blog.  I had my initial Dr visit for severe pain in upper right back and just under rib cage right side.  Nausea and undr fever and also a huge headache.  Urine was ok, waiting for blood work.  I suspected gallbladder but Dr. says it doesnt seem like pain is in right place.  Also the headache is throwing her.  I have re occuring bouts with Herpes II which is like cold sores.  The headache feels like herpes but I am having no outbreaks.. I have had one out break of shingles about 4 years ago.  I am wondering if there could be a connection with this virus as it lives in our spine and could it be effecting nerves.  My pain is in the back and radiates to to front rib base.    Sorry to hear you are all so in suffering.  Has anyone done the Andreas Moritz gallbladder/liver cleanse.  It seems a bit drastic.
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Looks like you and I are having very similar symptoms.  I want to explore further if my pain is a result of a "trigger point".  I read your past posts, and I wanted to see if you have had success with your "trigger point" treatment?
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Just went for ultrasound this a.m. for upper right abdominal pain (under rib cage) but it moves around.  Severe pain is sporadic. Constant underlying dull ache remains and area is tender to the touch.  

I was diagnosed 10 years ago with fibromyalgia, osteoarthritis, peripheral neuropathy, degenerative disc disease and a couple other things I can't even think of right now.  I am on several medications and have adjusted to the chronic pain over time so often wonder if I don't notice new pain right away because it is masked.  That worries me because now I don't know if I might have waited too long to go to doctor about this problem.

Naturally, the technician who did the ultrasound said she couldn't tell me anything but the test would be read by a radiologist and he would "decide how to interpret the results"?  That sounded a bit ominous to me and now I probably have to wait the week-end to hear anything.  I am sticking by the phone though but in the meantime decided to look up my symptoms on Web MD.  Found this forum and did some reading about the rest of you.  Decided to ask if anyone else out there has any of the diagnoses that I do.  Any of you have the same concerns about masked pain due to other illnesses?  I am thoroughly upset over what this could be and know stress adds to any problem.  Just comforted to a degree to know I'm not the only one going through this but at the same time, not looking forward to 'months or years' of not knowing like some of you.  Don't know if I can handle that if it turns out that way. Hoping for good results for all of us.  Thanks.
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I'm 58 and female. Having persistent pain in right hand side, radiates round to the back. Had the same thing on the left hand side for a number of years which seemed to be stress related as it was soon after my son died.It's driving me mad!
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I have had URQ pain for years.  The doc told me I had cysts and that they do not address them unless I am bithered enogh to ask for them to be removed.  I do notice that I am quite uncomfotable in pain for days if I irritate the area, like when I reach into to washmachine to get clothes out, that part of my ribcage presses on the rim and I guess inflammes the cysts.  I have a young cousin who was just diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and while my symptoms are just pain, it has really scared me too think of the possibilities as I have no insurance and have not had this checked in a long time.  It hads been a few years in total though and comes and goes.  Sometimes it is quite painful and keeps me up, but I can usually think to something I did to irritate it.  I am grateful to hear I am not the only one and that there are other things it could be that are not life threatening.  Thanks for sharing your stories.
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I suffer similar symptoms to the members posting in this group.  It's been two years of tests and everything "organ" related has been ruled out.  I was given a label of IBS but I didn't feel that really fit since my #2's are very normal and regular and the discomfort is so isolated to the RUQ.  I also find a hot compress placed in the area helps relieve the discomfort.

I finally went to my chiropractor this past Friday and he examined me.  He is very sure given my description of the issue that I have what he called abdominal trigger points and maybe even abdominal adhesions.  He recommended trying Aleve, continuing the hot compresses (adding cold compresses too), daily stretches of the area, and a really good massage therapist that specializes in trigger points.  I will make an appointment right away for the massage therapist and see if he/she can help.

I have already started researching his theory to find more information about this condition (googling abdominal trigger points and abdominal adhesions).  Here's one interesting thing I already found from a website and given that some of you had your gallbladder out, you might find it interesting:


Mystifying Symptoms

Gallbladder removal is done more often than any other type of surgery in the U.S. (over 600,000 per year). It's not uncommon for abdominal pain to remain after your gallbladder is gone. This can be worrisome for both doctor and patient.

But the pain may not be a residual problem with the biliary system. It may be nothing more serious than referral from trigger points in the abdominal muscles, which can do a very convincing job of mimicking gallbladder and bile duct symptoms.

Irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) is a very popular diagnosis, but it's only a label given to abdominal symptoms when the true cause is unknown. When the tests all come up negative, there's an extremely high probability that trigger points are the source of the problem.

Any physician should know that trigger points are always exquisitely tender, and that pressure on abdominal trigger points very often reproduces or accentuates their referred pain.
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Same problem here for 2 years now... No one knows what it is. HAve question to everyone. Did anyone have their lungs checked by any change? Do we have chance to get this from lungs at all?
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I think we all should put together a plan and try to figure out ourselfs... No doctors can answer this as you probably already see. Is there anyone still on this post? If yes, let's talk and maybe have a plan how we can troubleshoot this problem. Diet, tests, medicines, procedures and so on. Let's look at everything and find something in common and then we might try somethings together and see if anything will help. What do you all think?
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I have had pain in the URQ.  I had severe chest pains and was admitted to the hospital  The only meds I had taken were eye drops for glaucoma (recently diagnosed).  Gallbladder was removed 15 years ago, but pain was like gallbladder attack.  All test done for heart, lungs, etc. came back clear and good.  I quit taking the eye drops and have not had the pain in a week.  I go back to doctor tomorrow.  I think after researching the drug  and my pain that it was the cause of the ODDI.  
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Re:  Hatethispain's post about putting together a plan.

I actually printed out this entire forum with certain common points highlighted and took it to my last doctor's appointment.   I've had every possible test to rule out all issues with internal organs.  For the last few months, since all else was negative, he had decided on IBS.  But I do not agree with this diagnosis since I don't have any #2 issues.  What does seem common is almost everyone here has had internal organ issues ruled out by many, many tests.

The issue of referred pain from the spine and trigger points may be our best bet for many of the posters here.  From what I've read so far, these nerve and soft tissue problems can mimic many conditions and make you think you have something wrong deep inside.  My doctor actually told me he's had 2 patients in 5 years with pain in the front that was referring from the spine.  My chiropractor examined my spine and doesn't think it's a referral issue from the spine but rather these abdominal trigger points.  He could actually push on specific points under my ribs and irritate the trigger points almost immediately.

These trigger points are tricky.  You might have to seek the advice of a chiropractor, massage therapist, acupuncturist, etc, to see if this is a possibility.  These people are the experts in trigger points.  They deal with such issues on a regular basis and may be able to more easily recognize them.  I do believe though it is important to rule out internal organ issues before moving on to this possibility.  You definitely want to make sure everything inside is okay first and I think it's wise for a physician to rule out other issues first before considering a nerve or muscle issue.

I really hope that anyone that actually gets a diagnosis keeps posting back here so they can possibly help the rest of us.

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How long was your pain for? You said you were taking eye drops. did you mean like an eye drops?
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I had any possible tests done in these 2 year of pain (except HIDA test) and nothing seem to have any relation to the pain in RUQ. Going to Chiropracter now and he is not sure what can caust that pain. My problem that I have also some sensation between my shoulder blades, like chilles or numbness all the time. Does anyone experience anything simular?
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When a massage therapist works on my neck and my upper back, it feels numb.......like pins and needles.  I have repetitive strain issues throughout my upper back, right side of my neck, right shoulder and arm.  I am an accountant and have sat in front of a computer for almost 20 years on that darn keyboard number pad (hence  - more issues on my right side).  Repetitive strain can also set off a series of muscular pain events since when one muscle tires from overuse, another muscle will compensate thereby creating a domino effect.

It may very well be that many of us have layers of issues due to certain physical and emotional stresses that have manifested themselves in our muscular and nervous systems.  Stress can do a lot of damage to our bodies over the years.  We should consider the option that some of our issues have stress related roots.  Everyday, science is uncovering more about how stress can make us physically sick.  Tense muscles & pinched nerves may be related to our ever increasing sedentary life style (desk jobs, couch potatoes).  Combine that fact with tensing muscles due to mental stress and we are one big knotted mess that may take years to unwind all the related physical issues.
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The pain in my chest lasted for two days, but I still have pain under right rib cage.  I go back to doctor today.  I think the chest pain that put me in the hospital was related to the eye drops.  They have a chemical that relaxes soft muscle tissue.  I think this caused a problem with the specther of oddi and caused the same symptoms as gallbladder, but my gallbladder was removed in 1995.  I have been under a great deal of stress as well - work related and taking care of elderly parents,, etc. I also had a previous back injury in 2005 and now I am thinking some of the pain may be nerve related as well.  I go to the glaucoma specialist in November and see what he recommends regarding the eye drops.  Since I have discontinued the use of them, I have not had the severe chest pains, etc.  
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I have strong feeling that we all have Sphincster of Oddi problem... and we all type III. I will start lookin onto that problem. Nothing else seem to match up the sympthoms....
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I also have pain under my right rib cage.  It feels very sore and occasionally I'll get cramping pain, just below the ribs.  It's hard to bend forward or sit to drive.  Laying down sometimes will relieve the pain.  I have had a  CT scan, sonogram, CCK HIDA scan done.  Everything came back normal or negative.  My gallbladder function was only at 50% but that is considered normal.  The surgeon feels even though everything "appears" fine he suspects the gallbladder is the culprit.  10/29 I go in for surgery to have the gallbladder removed.  I am nervous about it but at the same time am looking forward to relief from pain.  I will try to come back and post the results and experiences.
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Went back to doctor yesterday for post checkup following the hospital routine a week ago.  My liver enzymes are still elevated, but have gone down some.  I will have additional blood work done in three weeks to see if enzymes go back to normal.  I also have appointment with GI in four weeks.  Doctor thinks i have a gallstone/sludge even though gallbladder was removed 15 years ago.  The eye drops for glaucoma contain prostaglandin (same used to induce labor) and may have caused a problem with the sphincter of oddi.  Other medications contain prostaglandin.  This could be a common cause of some of these symptoms.  I have pain under right rib and sometimes travels around to center back.  Area under shoulder blade really hurts sometimes and also has tingling or numb sensations at times.  I have been on low fat diet for over a year and lost 40 lbs.  I had not noticed any problems with this in about a year until now.  I had added some oil to my diet and wonder if the combination of everything set it off.  I will keep you posted as I progress.  The pain is very scary to everyone and i hope we can find a better diagnosis.  
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I had the same symtoms (symptoms) for two months and have had cat scans mri's etc.  I had a great doctor who did many blood tests and one came back positive for  BABESIA  from a tick bite..I am now on antibiotics and feeling somewhat better..but still have some days with pain.  I questioned my neurologist and he confirmed that my symtoms (symptoms) could definitely be attributed to BABESIA..so please be tested for autoimmune disease, lymes babesia etc.
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Wow! There are a lot of us, aren't there? I have many of same symptoms as most of you - but I've actually added a few pounds and am bloated all the time. My pain is not only under my ribs, but on the ribs on the right as well. I feel like I have to arch my back to take the pressure off. My ultrasound, HIDA scan, etc., all showed my gall bladder functioning more or less normally. Interested to see if anyone else has shortness of breath when the feeling of pressure is intense. I'm a smoker, and of course, fear of lung problems is always there.
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WOW! I want to say a BIG THANK YOU to all that have posted here. I have been going through URQ pain for over 2 months and like everyone had blood test, CAT scan, and ultrasound. I have had my gall baldder out for over 20 years. The only thing the tests revealed was a "fatty liver" and diverticulitis. My Dr said to decrease the fat in my diet and add more fiber. I don't feel like eating at all and have lost 12 pounds the last month. (Also, I had hand surgery 4 months ago and that has been a painful, stressful recovery.)

I have pain all the time almost up under my ribs on the right and take Darvocet for the pain. I can't sleep on my right side and sometimes can't lay flat on my back without my right leg bent. My pain is worse sitting. I am now contemplating going to a GYN Dr even though I have had a hysterectomy many years ago to see if it could be ovary related.

As I read all your posts, I feel that I am not so crazy. I have felt like a hypochrondriac and just don't know what to do about all this pain. I am thankful to all of you for sharing and I will keep coming back to see if anyone finds a cure or diagnosis that we can share.

Again, thank you all!
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I just came back from my doctor, one of the many I have been complaining to about this urq pain. I had a complete hysterectomy 5 years ago and my gallbladder removed 2 yrs ago. I can hardly sit too long or lay on that side in bed. I like so many of you felt like a hypocondriac or a nut job because no one seems to know what the heck is causing the pain. I am going for another mri with contrast and a few xrays. I have had scoliosis since birth, but back pain is one thing this under the rib is totally different, it seems like I still have a gallbladder except for the nausia. I feel for each and everyone of you and wish we could get to the bottom of this.
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I have been experiencing a dull constant feeling of pressure directly under my right breast.  It also feels like it moves around.  Also when I touch the area it feels like something is in there??? I do have a fibroid, which i thought was the problem.  Went to OBG and had ultrasound done and that is not it.  Has referred me to gastor doc on the 11th.  I also belch a lot????  Will post again after visit.  Thanks for this post.  It has really helped to know I'm not loosing my mind....
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I had my gallbladder removed last Friday 10/29.  I am doing a lot better now although there is still some discomfort. I go to get the drain removed today.  I can already tell that I don't have gallbladder pain! (just surgery pain)  It was pretty rough going though the first few days but all that will be worth not having pain ALL THE TIME in the future.  I would be happy to answer any questions about the experience.  Good luck to you.
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Here's another possibility I found:

Abdominal Cutaneous Nerve Entrapment Syndrome (ACNES): A Commonly Overlooked Cause of Abdominal Pain


http://xnet.kp.org/permanentejournal/sum02/acnes.html
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I've had ever-increasing abdominal pain too - mostly URQ but do get pelvic pains.  I had my gallbladder removed, four laparoscopic ovarian surgeries (for ongoing cysts) with ovarian removal, and last year I had my colon twist and had to have 1/2 of it removed.  My pain is getting worse and worse.  After going to three *very good* GI specialists (two of them surgeons) I have a diagnosis and it might make sense to many of you too:  abdominal/pelvic adhesions!  

Apparently every time I had a gallbladder attack, it formed adhesions.  Every time I had an ovarian cyst rupture, it formed adhesions.  The gallbladder surgery and 4 ovarian surgeries formed adhesions.  Those adhesions are probably what caused my colon to twist and causing me emergency abdominal surgery . . . which caused A BUNCH of adhesions.    Adhesions can't be visualized on CT or MRI and the best way to relieve adhesions is to surgically cut them - which forms MORE adhesions.

It's maddening but I thought my answers (finally!) could help some of you.
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I've been diagnosed with adhesions and/or abdominal trigger points (after two years of testing everything possible inside my abdomen).   It was my chiropractor that diagnosed me and he referred me to a massage therapist.  You have to make sure the massage therapist is well trained in this area and has the experience to treat adhesions.   I've also heard and read that homeopathic medicine can help with the treatment of adhesions.

Here's a short article regarding the use of massage for surgical adhesions:

http://www.massagetoday.com/mpacms/mt/article.php?id=13950
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Hi all,
         I'm glad to hear I'm not alone with the pain I am suffering. I like everyone have had a lot of tests done with no diagnosis. The consultant basically told me to stop moaning and get on with things. The pain I have has got worse since I was in a car accident. I'm not sure if this is something to worry about. I was wondering if it could be a lung problem rather than gall bladder liver etc. Have people had lungs tested too?
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Like a lot of people on here Im very greatful to have found you all and realise im not alone and not going completely mad. Ive had crohns disease for years, but this new URQ pain has been with me since April, my liver function tests have been elevated, now they are back to normal and my last two tests done in July/August showes raised pancreas levels, Im also anaemic, with extremely cold extrematies, my MRI and CT scans were normal, the gallbladder test showed normal gallbladder but severe bile reflux into the stomach, I have lost nearly 2 stone in weight now, I cant tolerate any fat and if I do eat any not only am i in intense pain but also get greasy loose poops. The pain is from the middle chest to middle rib cage going round to the back and up, most of the time its a slow gnawing pain that you cant get away from, it gets worse as the day gets on, and often keeps my awake all night as I cant get comfortable, there are times im literally on all fours trying to get some rest. Recently my GP noticed that my Crohns meds could cause pancreatitis so has taken me off it, now my whole gut is going into the most horendous spasam to the fact that im hanging onto the bathroom door crying in pain. Ive been off work since May and am desperate to get some weight back on and to feel a bit more normal. Ive been to the pain clinic and am on Tramadol or Oramorph depending on how severe the pain is and sickness pills for the nausea. Its doing my head in, any other help greatfully received. Many thanks.
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Hi,i am 21 year old female, i have also had the same problems as you. I have now been sick for 5 years, have had my gallbladder and appendix removed, even though they actually did not need to be removed. I Get an attack 2-3 times and year and anytime i undergo surgery it causes me to have an attack. My last attack was in June it started as severe upper right abdominal pain(the pain feels like someone is burning my liver with a lighterl), with vomiting, nausia, low grade fever, and consitpation. My WBC levels were elevated for several days then dropped. Then my liver enzymes and lymphs climed(my dr called it very "bizzare"). I got swollen lypmh nodes in my stomach, throat, and groin, my urin was also redish-brown. Then i started to get sharp stabbing pains in my shoulders, arms, and fingers. I was sick like this for about 2 months, and all my levels started to go back to normal when i saw a doctor who mentioned that i could possibly have Acute Intermittent Porphyria. I still have yet to be diagnosed with it because i have not been tested during an attack. But i am still getting pain and random numbness in my arms, and it has started in my feet, but for some reason is a lot worse in my lower limbs and makes my feet super sensitive. I would mention this disease to your dr, it is a very rare disease, and very difficult do diagnose since the testing has to be done at the right time. I also had an aunty who had the same symptoms as me but suddenly passed away at the age of 33 while having the same attack that i get and they found no reason for her to die(oh and she had such severe nerve damage to her legs she could not walk) But the drs never did put that together and told her it was all in her head since they could not find anything wrong with her spine. But good luck to everyone with abdominal pain, i know how hard it is. I am now going for my 6th surgery for another hernia repair, and will be placed in the hospital for observation incase the stuff that puts you out causes an attack then they can do all the proper tesing they need to do.. wish me luck!!!
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Abdominal Cutaneous Nerve Entrapment Syndrome (ACNES): A Commonly Overlooked Cause of Abdominal Pain


http://xnet.kp.org/permanentejournal/sum02/acnes.html

I checked this out!  It seems very plausible.  Two years ago at this time, I went to hospital with the same severe pain in the Upper Quad.  Morphine and then lots of inconclusive tests done over a three day outpatient investigation.

Nothing.  But! Two years ago I was heavy into bellydancing and walking hard...and this might have triggered this issue.

This weekend, the same pain came back, with some slight nausea, constipation, etc.  This weekend I was also shoveling compost for an hour, twisting my torso to the right (I'm left handed).  Thought it caused less stress on my 62 year old back.

However, the pain in my torso started the next day, and today it was severe.  Last night was bad, like a poker in the upper right gut.

I think this ACNES deserves to be considered.  Nothing else has worked, and the bills keep mounting up.  Seems so many doctors are just shooting in the dark on this issue.

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Hi, Im glad to have found you guys.I am a 43 yr old male and have been having this URQ pain for over 1 yr now. Had tests for liver, gall bladder and stones and H pilori and have taken 2 different medications I think for ulcer. Still no relief. Funny thing is I can pretty much pinpoint this damn pain to a precise point.  Then one day my Doc told me to take a deep breath while he poked me up under the ribcage. Well if he didnt hit that exact spot. I almost went through the roof ! (been extra sore from this for 3 days now) I thought, OK now surely he must be onto something here. But there was this complacent attitude about it that he seemed to have. Im starting to think what the hell is going on here?! Then 6 mos ago i had numbness tingling sensation started happening in my right arm from under my shoulder blade and shoulder down to my finger tips.It occurred about every half hour (very uncomfortable) the doc attributed this to carp tunnel.So he has me wearing a wrist brace all the time with no relief. Then my wifes friend who is a massage therapist asks me why Im wearing a wrist brace. After telling her my symptoms she is adamant this is not carp tunnell. So she lays me down and pokes and prods and rubs under my armpit and around my shoulder for a while and low and behold I have not had any numbness or tingling for 4 days now. I dont know if this is related to my urq pain but worth the mention since it seems others may also be having pinched nerve scenarios.
Anyways, its interesting to read about trigger points in the abdomen. Would feel alot better about it just knowing what this pain is from.
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I have been having URQ pain for six years now. I have had all the tests CT,MRI, endoscopy,colonoscopy, HIDA scan, ultrasound, chest x-ray, gallbladder removed. My GI doctor says it is IBS my orthopedic doc says it is degenerative disc with trigger points being under ribs. Has anyone tried acupuncture?
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My PCP thinks my pain is being caused by acid so put me on an acid reducer/blocker. Another one thinks it is gallbladder and that it was triggered by losing so much weight very quickly after my pregnancy. She wanted to refer me to GI but my PCP wanted me to take the blocker for several months before undergoing tests. Neither theory explained why the tingling (mine is infrequently in my tongue of all places!) except that I'm wondering if something is inflamed, as someone mentioned their liver was large that maybe it puts pressure on a nerve elsewhere? It really is frustrating though that there are so many people with similar symptoms and no answer. I know it 'could' be a lot of things but with such specific symptoms - pain in the exact same places, tingling etc. it seems that it really would be a common cause. I'm wondering if anyone else ever has had issues with their kidneys? The only other health issue I've ever had besides arthritis is protein in my urine, frequent bladder infections and a kidney infection and one Dr. suggested I might have hyperuricemia which I think is a form of Gout?? Just wondering if anyone else has similar. I never ended up going forward with the testing for that so am wondering if it is related or a long-term affect.
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hello everybody , yet another person glad to have found you all, i thought i was going mad. my problems started in august, i had stomach pain , pain under my right rib and trouble going for #2's. it seemed to ease off for a month or so , but in the last 2 and a half months i have lost 35lbs , and its getting worse. i just cant poop . the pain under my ribs is really getting me down, it hurts to eat or drink. if i do the pain gets worse. within minutes of eating or drinking i get really bad gas from both ends . it got to the stage i need to take a laxative every three days or i thought i might explode. i have been seeing my doctor since this started , he has finally decided to refer me to a consultant , they cant see me until the end of febuary. the doctor has now given me macrogol, ive been taking it for 4 days and i still cant go to the loo, i havent been for 5 days now and the pain is driving me nuts ,
i have found the only way to ease the pain is not to eat solid food , but now im worried that the amount im eating isnt going to help with the weight loss, but i physically cant eat anymore than i am doing .
i hope we can all find some answers
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My HIDA scan came back normal. My CT scan came back normal. I saw a GI doc that looked at my symptoms and eventually had my gallbladder out. My liver enzymes were elevated during that time. They came back to normal after the GB was removed. I was in severe pain. They did find a stone upon removal. My pancreas appeared abnormal but all biopy's came back normal That is what the report said anyway.
During my UGI's and scopes they said I had a Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction. They gave me Amytriptaline (sp?) which used to be used for depression but now they found out it works on the nerve endings there. It takes 3 weeks to work. It made me tired but I didn't notice much difference. The SOD was enlarged but they couldn't go inside or there was a 50% chance of pancreatitis. SO long story short, I can eat now but my pain is pretty bad in the URQ. Labs are all normal. Some talked of biliary colic. It seems to be related or gets worse with food consumption. The pain is real and constant. My right rib is even painful to the touch. Meds really don't take the pain away, just make it tolerable.
I am an RN and have researched this. The sad answer is they just don't have any idea. I am worried about the pain. There has to be something wrong. I read your posts Sam and it seems like you are similar. Are you on any meds? I will try pancreas enzymes. I am thinking what I have is much like what infants have. Colic. How can I stop the discomfort is the question?
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I am also suffering with the same problem.. it started about last month and the constant little pain under my right rib is always there.. if get's worse when im at work, bending,sitting or laying down.. if i stand  and not move i;m fine lol i went to the er to see the doc on call, she sent me for blood work and everything and it says everything is fine. I had gaul bladder surgery last January and im not sure if it has somthing to do with my surgery or not... i hope i find out whats wrong with me soon or im not going to be able to work much longer..
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Hello, I'm a 34 year old female and have been suffering from this pain for so many years, I don't even remember how old I was when it first started.  I used to only get an attack once every couple years.  But in November of 2008 I had another attack and til this day the pain does not go away.  2 years of constant pain.  I had been living of of anti-inflammatory pills, taking 800mg every 4-5 hours and the pain was still never.  Nothing ever really takes it away.
My pain is the exact same as most of you have described, however, sometimes it starts right in the middle of my chest, then moves to my right lower rib area, then moves to my back right rib area, then moves up to my right shoulder area...THEN goes all the way down to my lower back area, where your kidney's would be.  This severe pain is constant and lasts for one week, until it calms a bit, but never really goes away.  
The other thing that I would like to address, but have not read here as most of your symptoms is that I am constantly struggling to take a breath because inhaling IS SOOOOO PAIN FULL!!  I am not able to cough, sneeze, burp, laugh, and finish a normal sentence without running out of air and struggling to take a breathe to finish speaking.  Forget walking...I'm slumped over and can't stand up straight, and because it hurts so much to take a breath, any physical activity is too painful.  I have also found that laying down is also very painful, I have to be in a seated position in bed and very still for me to find any comfort. There is no way I can even lay on either side during the attacks...too painful.  Although I have found that when I apply pressure to the area (on my right lower rib cage) the pain does subside a bit.
Another symptom I always have with the attacks that I again haven't read here is that I also get a fever, I haven't really taken a temperature during this time...but I get really really hot and very weak and fatigued.  I've also noticed that I get hungry very frequently, I know it's odd but it's been my observation.
Here is another finding, I started taking 500mg capsules of L-Carnitine around May this year, and after about a couple weeks of taking one a day I started to notice that it was helping relieve my pain.  I don't know if there is a direct scientific link, but that was the only thing that I had changed in my diet and noticed it helped.
I'm sorry this is so long, but there is so much to write about this topic and YES everyone around me is tired of hearing that I'm sick AGAIN.  I feel like such a useless person and that the whole world is living, working, being active and enjoying life while I'm in bed completely immobile in pain...it is depressing.
About the whole gallbladder connection...here is my story...in July of 2009, while visiting Mexico, I had another attack and a friend of mine dragged me to their hospital (my first visit regarding this issue because I know they never find anything so why bother, right) anyhow, after giving all my symptoms they did an ultrasound and found that I had stones in my gallbladder and everything I was describing was a direct result of it.  Leaving there relieved that it was nothing really serious and with some GREAT pain meds, I came back to the states and still in pain (it had become chronic by now) I decided to go to one of my US emergency room and see if they have the same findings.  Well, after about 6 hours of waiting for results of blood and urine tests, they said that everything came back "normal" .  I asked them to do an ultrasound, because obviously SOMETHING was NOT normal if I am having pain...right?!  Well, they didn't do it because there was nothing abnormal in my test results.  So I contacted a gallbladder specialist dr, and took my x-rays and dr. reports and records that I had done in Mexico with me, he was so excited that I had PPO insurance that he didn't even do his own tests and went on the "word" of the reports from Mexico and scheduled me for surgery to remove my gallbladder.  Needless to say, I was excited that I was going to be relieved of the pain (pain=stones in my gallbladder)  YEAH RIGHT!!  I had surgery August 3rd...and before the month was up I had another attack....SAME PAIN! WTFFF!!!  I was so upset and so depressed, everyone told me to call my surgeon and tell him that THAT wasn't the problem and to help find what it was.  I never did.  I don't want to be a guinea pig and a money making machine for our health care system or professionals. The only thing that I have gotten after removing my gallbladder is acid reflux/heartburn...don't know which is which but it's very bad in the mornings and if my first meal in the day is fatty/oily I HAVE to run to the bathroom within 20-30 min with crazy diarrhea...sorry if that's TMI :) Dr. told me that those will go away as my body heals from the surgery, but it's been over a year and I now have 2 more things I suffer from!!  And after searching and searching for some self diagnosis, I found that the closest definition to my condition is Pleurisy, and that concludes my research...sadly.
I so do apologize for this post being very long, but I just want to know if there is anyone else out there with these exact symptoms.
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hello. WOW all i can say is WOW!! i cannot believe how similar all you people are to me. Im at my lowest point at the moment, so finding this forum is fantastic. I have had the most awful pain just under my right ribcage for about 6 month, I have lost 3 stones in weight, dropped 3 dress sizes, im like a skeleton now. I have had every test under the sun. I first had an utrasound which showed dilated bile duct and gallbladder sludge, but then all the other tests seem to show my gallbladder is normal. iv had a ct, mrcp, barium mfollow through xray, endescope. They all seem normal. I cant understand why my ultrasound showed different, its weird.Last month I was also diagnosed with pernitious anaemia (b12 defficiency and folic acid) I am so weak and get very short of breath, the pain goes right round to my right shoulder blade. Some days I couldnt even describe the pain its so bad. I saw my consultant today at the hospital and he has said he does not know what to do for me as nothing appears wrong. I thought I was going crazy till i came accross this site. IM so scared and confused about whats happening to me. I have young children and find it so hard to put smile on my face for them. I sit and cry when they are at school. Im so depressed by it all and dont know what to do. Thanks for listening
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Everyone that has posted recently, if you have any questions that you would like answered, please post your question as its own post because this one is so old.  Thanks!
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Hi. I am crying as I write this, partly because I know this isn't over yet & partly because I have finally found a site with people going through the same thing I have been dealing with for years!  In 2001 I had gall Bladder surgery as I had  swelling & severe pain.

Well, as many of you have said...it didn't go away!  I also have had many tests since then, including being admitted to the hospital with this pain. They did Ultrasound, MRI, CT scan, blood work, urine, endoscopy and colonoscopy.  I do have GERD and take Prilosec for that. but GERD was diagnosed many years ago. My son has Crohnes & Mom has Ulcerative colitis. So I thought it may be related to that. But all the tests keep coming back normal (I did have a little blood in my urine is all). I also had one ovary removed 3 yrs. ago and they found I do have IC (Interstitial Cystitis) So, they thought I had IBS which can be related to IC.... Well, the IBS diet did not work at all. Still have pain & swelling with NO answers yet!    

I do have a theory from my experiences..... Since I don't have a gallbladder... could all the fat my GB used to process, be causing some or most of this pain?  They were also thinking Abdominal Adhesions but tests didn't show it. Unlike some of you I am GAINING not losing weight! I ALWAYS feel bloated & full & am constipated (only go 1x per week)  Even if I "Diet" it doesn't matter. Still swollen & in pain.  It feels like my liver or pancreas is burning (especially when I sit or lay on my right side) It also feels like pressure & is right under my ribs on the URQ. I look 9 months pg! They even did a pg test even though I'm in menopause.

I will follow up on some of your leads & sites you mentioned also. We need to stick together on this!  Like many of you, my family's getting sick of hearing it and I am getting so sick of laying around in my Jammies with so much pain & swelling! I am so tired of trying to explain to people who don't understand!  Thanks so much for all of your input & for being here! It's so great to know I'm not alone on this!  
                                                                        
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How amazing this thread is!!  I returned from my holiday at the end of August. Within a week of returning I noticed a strange "full" sort of sensation just under my right ribcage. I noticed that if I rubbed at the area or stretched a little, it would seem to subside. Also I started noticing a dull sort of pain - not persistant - sort of like a mild stitch - which comes and goes and is not severe.  As I had been on a long 5 week holiday with ample drinking, and has also been on anti fungal tablets for 14 weeks before my holiday, I was a little concerned that I may have done some damage to my liver.  I therefore went to my GP, who arranged for some liver function tests to be carried out. These came back completely normal, but by now, I had also noticed that my stomach seemed to be "bigger" than normal and I was concerned that there was some sort of fluid build up .  So I asked my GP to palpate me, as I thought at least he would be able to tell if there was anything abnormal on the liver or surrounding area.  He did this and confirmed that nothing felt abnormal, and that I did not have any fluid retention.  He also ordered a full set of blood tests, including the C125 for cervical cancer.  All tests have come back completely normal!  I am now awaiting an ultra sound on my abdominal aeorta, as this was the only thing that the GP was sightly concerned about, saying it was protruding more than it should do.   However, I feel that the real problem is being overlooked.  I still have the dull aches on a daily basis, and when I have eaten a lot, I feel and look very bloated. I have also noticed that I have a LOT of wind lately (not pleasant at all!) and my stools float, which I presume is because they are full of gas.   Two years ago, I suffered with severe pain in the very middle of my chest, just underneath my breast bone and have had umpteen ct scans and Mri scans since, as they found a lesion on my kidney, which does not grow and does not cause me any problem.  However again, I feel that the pain under the breastbone was overshadowed by the finding of the kidney lesion!!  Whether any of this has anything to do with the URQ pains I do not know!  I have lost no weight (if only!) I have no problems with passing stools (other than they tend to float more than they used to) and have the appetite of a horse. I am starting to feel like a hypercondriac.  Sometimes the pain feels like it is right on the rib. I just dont know.  Oh, and the strangest pain of all (which is very infrequent) is a pain up in my top right back teeth!!!!.......I cant help but worry that there is some sort of cancer going on (liver, pancreatic, gallbladder) but on reading this, I am inclinded to think that this is unlikely...especially since I have none of the normal cancer symptoms (tiredness, loss of weight, yellowing of the skin)  ...but I am just intrigued as to what it is....anyone else with my symptoms???? thanks.
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I've been having this exact stomach pain. It's taken over my life. I'm sixteen and I cannot even enjoy my highschool experience. My symptoms are stabbing pains in my upper right stomach right under my rib cage. And I've been experiencing extreme heat in my stomach. The only way I can describe it as my stomach acid eating away at every other organ in my body. I'm constantly home afraid to go out because the pain may become too intense for me to handle. So far I've had an upper and lower GI done, a HIDA scan, ultra sounds, a CT scan, blood tests, and tons of X-rays. All the tests come back normal and each time this happens a little part of my hope dies. So far the best they've come up with is that its IBS and I should see a therapist because IBS is caused by stress. But my therapist tells me although I am stressed its not to the point of me making myself sick over it and she thinks its completely medical. My mother is demanding them do a MRI since thats the only test left. Anyone else experiencing this?
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I'm 17 with the same thing!!! However I don't have a gallbladder anymore, and honestly, taking it out didn't help my problem. They've done every possible test and still nothing besides IBS and Acid Reflux. I had to start homeschooling because it was so bad that my attendance at high school was terrible and homeschool was a better option. I'm going back next semester only because I'm going to suck it up. I'm so tired of hearing that it's only because I'm "stressed" or it's just IBS, that I've basically given up and no one else I know has these symptoms. I'm glad it's not just me! What have they said about your gallbladder?
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I'm very glad to find people who understand what I have been through! I have a very terrible year! After just a week of gallbladder attacks (pain in under my right ribcage radiating to my right shoulderblade), I had my gallbladder removed in November 2009. In June 2010, I began having the same pain and pressures and after seeing a GI doctor in Mobile, AL and doing an EGD, blood work, and an ultrasound, he found nothing. I decided to go to a GI doctor in Birmingham, AL. He suspected SOD so he did blood work and an ERCP with manometry. He found that I had pressures of 120 whereas the normal pressures are 30 I think. He then performed a sphincterotomy. The surgery seemed to ease it a bit but there were still pressures. By September, it was back full force again. My family physician suggested that I do an abdominal exploratory laparoscopy. I met with the same surgeon who a year ago took out my gallbladder and we decided on November 20, 2010. During surgery, he cut back some scar tissue that was pressing against my intestines, removed my appendix, and an inflamed lymph node for testing which came back normal. After the surgery, I was pain free until December 15, 2010. This particular day, I went to work (I am an office manager-sitting most of the day) and felt fine until about 4 pm. My pain returned and this time it was very severe. Also, my entire right arm, right foot, and right leg were tingling. I was admitted into the hospital that night. They did blood work, chest xray, EKG, MRI, CT Scan-you name it, everything came back normal. I was sent home Monday. I'm still in alot of pain and I can't understand why. I have had EVERY test and nobody can figure it out. I am researching pain management as I am so tired of dealing with this. If anyone has any answers, suggestions, or comments-I would greatly appreciate it.
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I have been suffering with this pain (RUQ, side, back) for a year and a half.  It started when I had a chiropractic adjustment, the first of my life.  The chiropractor, of course, thinks I am nuts.  Since then, all sorts of tests, medications (for GI) and alternative therapies, including regular acupuncture.  I am miserable, but like so many of you, I can no longer complain, as I've been written off as a kook.  So, I just try to get through the day; I don't live, I exist.  Lying down helps, but then in the middle of the night, I awaken and can't find a comfortable position.  Barely sleeping, very bloated (even with my vegetarian diet, probiotics, regular exercise, etc.).  Speaking of exercise, doing the treadmill makes my backaches much worse; the muscles on either side of my spine are extremely sore.  Sitting at a computer, driving a car or sitting for a meal are the worst times for me.  I've had two doctors tell me that the chiropractic likely pinched a nerve; they've explained how the nerve travels around the side of the ribcage and up to the solar plexus, which can initiate GERD issues and breathing troubles, both of which I've had.  No resolution; am absolutely miserable.  Feel best in the morning upon arising before I take any supplements or eat anything.
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This past Monday I woke up in the night with terrible pain below my rib cage on the right side (around the appendix).  On Wednesday I decided to go the ER because I thought I had appendicitis.  I had a CAT scan done, and they said i didnt have appendicitis, but I had inflammation in my intestines.  They said I might have Crohns disease, and should change my diet until I see a specialist.  My grandfather had colitis.

It has been very difficult over the last week, only by eating liquid meals do I feel relief.  My bowl movements have been also no-existent.  I have been taking Vicoprofen for pain relief, but this is not a long term solution.

I cant meet with the GI until the end of January, so hopefully my normal doctor can help me with this.

It seems to hurt most in the evenings, and especially when I wake up in the morning (when I wake up, i feel no pain, and then suddenly it starts when my body seems to start up.)
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I am amazed at the number of people experiencing this type of pain.  My 15 year old daughter is experiencing almost all of what is posted here.  It began in mid August as cramping a couple of days a week and is now constant RUQ pain with frequent sharp pain that radiates up the right side of the chest and into the back.  The pain increases if she walks, exercises and it even hurts to breathe. She has had two ultra sounds, two HIDA scans, a CAT scan and multiple blood tests.  Everything is showing normal with the exception of a fatty liver which the doc says is slight and not abnormal.  Her GI doc is now diagnosing IBS which I am certain is wrong.  She is taking Vicodan and an anti nausea medication on a regular basis just to get through the day.  Meds were prescribed by her primary care doc as the GI doc says she just needs to work through the pain and handle it on her own.  GI doc also blames stress, which her therapist says is a crock of "you know what".  She is also now seeing a chiropractor to see if he can help in any way.  Her primary doc is certain this is gall bladder related even though the test are showing normal, and is in the process of contacting a surgeon to see if we can get the gallbladder removed.  I'm concerned that this won't cure the problem, but we aren't sure where to go next.  Any advice?
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Wow, whatever this thing is, it seems to be an epidemic.
I am just wondering how many of us there are 'out there'.

I am a 46 year old female. I am overweight and don't eat really healthy meals.

Anyway, for the past 5-6 years, I have had this pain in my upper right abdominal area that comes and goes. I get mild 'attacks' about 2-3 times a year that usually lasts for about a week- a fortnight before going away.

At the moment, I am in the middle of an attack and hence how I found this site. When I am immobile, there is no pain and thus I spend a lot of time just resting in bed or watching TV.
When I take a deep breath or get up and walk around, I feel like somebody is twisting a hot knife into my liver area.

A few years ago, I went to the hospital and had some tests. The results showed gallstones and slight inflammation of the gall bladder as a result.
I asked them if they could do anything and they said 'no, it's not that serious to require surgery, you'll be fine'.
They gave me some antibiotics and some Nurofen and Nexium and sent me back home.

After a week, it kind of went away anyway.

I have had 4 acute attacks since then, but I don't want to see the doctor anymore for more 'band-aids' for this problem.

The pain is not really excrutiating, just very annoying about a 5-6 on the 'pain scale'.

I have been on the watch for other symptoms, like skin/eye yellowing, clay coloured poo, fever, nausea and vomiting but so far, all has been well, so I doubt it's anything to rush to my doctor about anyway.
Apart from being a bit tired and having this pain, I am pretty much okay.

It's always worrying though when pain is 'unexplainable', sure, my gall bladder may be playing up again, or I may have a bit of an infection there or whatever...

One good thing though, if it's any consolation whatsoever to those who are suffering, if everything comes back 'normal' it can't be anything really serious, can it? It still doesn't answer the question about wtf is going on though and that's really scary.
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I can't believe this. Indeed, it is an epidemic. I sincerely hope these are not pancreatitis attacks.  I get them often - probably once every two weeks.  I have been having this since 1998.  My theories are - there is something wrong in the hepatic flexure and stool & gas are accumulating there and there is distention which is irritating the phrenic nerve and the diaphragm.  Somehow, that is causing referred pain in pectoral minor, shoulder blades - all on the right side.  I get the numbness in the pinkie and all the characteristics described here.
The one thing I did not talk to the family physician was tendonitis in the diaphragm and will pursue it.  This pain is less for me when I eat smaller meals and I am working out more regularly.

Best wishes to all.
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I am also glad to see i am not the only one trying find out WTH is wrong!  I am a 46 yr old female, exercises regularly, eats fairly well and def have drinks at end of the day.  
I was teaching an exercise class when I thought I pulled a muscle, then thought it had to do with monthly cycle...two weeks later I was at the drs in severe pain.
Went though blood work..normal..had x-ray, ultrasound, 2 CT scans and a colonoscopy...all normal.  Like everyone, no-one seems to have a clue.  The pain is incosistant, but never goes away.  I saw someone else write, when its massaged and stretched out it seem to be a small relief, I have experienced that as well.  I have all my organs, I cannot related to those who have had some removed.
I am now going to follow up with a chiropractor to see if there is a possiblilty I have a rib out of place..
Good luck to all of you and hopefully, someday we can help others in this same situation!
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hi strongeagle, i really hope you get the help you need, im sick of it all now,my doc has said he doesnt know what to do with me as all my tests except one has come back ok. my ultrasound showed i had dilated bile duct and gallbladder sludge yet strangely all the other scans ct, mrcp, barium scan showed normal. im confused and still in agony. Surely there must be some form of help out there. Im now waiting for this doc to refer me to his colleague as he seems to have given up. seems like he cant find the cause so chooses to make me feel like its in my head, how crazy is that, like iv got nothing better to do than sit up the hospital for hours on end, Iv got 5 kids so deffo dont need this. Anyway good luck to you, I hope your doc helps you soon, i can totally sympathise with you.  do let us know how you get on x
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Hi to everyone!
am 38 years,female and so happy to have found so many who share the same problems as me.
I've been having pains under my ribcage on the right side more tahn an year now,,it was mild at the start now it's becoming worse...its is sharp burning pain and it aggravates after meals and nwo i find its hard to walk for a distance.i already over weight...my liver profile suggests nothing and my doctor says its because am over weight.I'm 80 kg and am gaining real fast without eating more..i dont know why....is this true..i find it hard to believe because i've havr seen heavier people than me who have no such problems.my doctors is treatinf me for gastritisnow its the 4th day...no improvement the apin severe i cannot even sit sometimes ..it gets better when i stand...is any one having same problems pls share with us
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Hi mishmash321!  hang in there...with all of us trying to figure out this common pain, some worse than others, hopefully some doctor will have the balls to take on this issue and help us all!  In meantime,enjoy your kids as much as possible, and when i get thru with my chiro appointment, will certainly post my results in hopes to help others.I do have to add my pain gets worse just before my monthly cycle.  And believe or not, guys go thru a mild cycle as well...may want to keep an eye on that...yes, even with hysterectomies...cycles stll occur.
Hope the new year brings less pain to all of us!
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Everyone, this post is very very old.  Please if you have any questions you would like answered, post them as a new post.  If you have any questions please let me know.
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OMG!!!  Yours was the last post I read and I began laughing (which hurt like heck and not because anything you said was funny), because I have the exact same symptoms! Especially the running to the bathroom after eating, I don't even like to go out to eat anymore because I am afraid I won't make it out of the restaurant before I have to GO!!  I am so amazed that so many people share the same symptoms and yet there seems to be no real diagnosis.  I find myself in a rather detrimental situation because currently I have no health insurance so I just pray and pray and continue to suffer hoping that I don't have a very serious condition.  I have had my gall bladder removed over a year ago now so I can't help but think that it is related somehow.  I had a hysterectomy over 3 years ago and I do suffer from kidney stones and kidney infection so immediately I thought that I might have a stone and I was bracing myself for the worse.  I have a pretty high tolerance for pain but because this pain is chronic, I feel like I am going crazy. I think my husband and children think I am a hypochondriac so I put up the appearance that I am feeling better when clearly I do not which is evident by the wincing or sudden yelp when I turn the wrong way or stretch and feel the pain catch or feel acute excruciating pain from sneezing or blowing my nose).  I have the pain whether I lie down or sit but I do get some relief when I apply light pressure to the URQ which feels lumpy and swollen at times.  I have to place a pillow against the URQ when I laugh or cough or yawn or take a deep breath.  Today I was going to try some heat.  I have began taking Advil PM so I can get some rest at night but I don't like to take meds for a long period of time.

Sorry for the long post but reading all of the comments have put my mind at ease somewhat, but at the same time I wish someone has gotten more of a definitive diagnosis and treatment.  I will keep reading so please if there is some good news...share share share

Blessings and good health to you all in 2011
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I have the same pain as the others...no bowel issues. But when this started a couple years ago they initially treated me for UTI but in do not haver a fever or blood in my urine.  I then went to ob/gyn who did a laprasopy and found the smallest amount of endometreosis... MRI has found that I have 2 "insignificant" masses on my liver (which I understand most of us have) but it is in a abnormal position. My liver is slightly enlarged. But again nothing to worry about.  I had it every day for a long time until the dr. Put me on leave for three months.  Then the pain was random. Really rough when I went on a Long drive up the coast. Usually appears also durning my cycle.  I am over weight..sadly gained more weight when my mom passed..u

So here is the strange thing. I started back at work this week and I am in so much pain and that is when it came to my mind... Maybe it's the posture from my abdomen.  Since many of us feel like there is either a pinch or just not  enough room for my organs. If my liver is enlarged, the mass is pressing on something or bloated from Pms all of this feels like it is shoved up against my ribs then I crunch over at work or sit all bunched up on the couch pinching a (what ???) Pinching a muscle? Organ? My vascular system

I went to my dr. (one of the 5 I have for this problem) and also just as puzzled as all of you..I told him this.  This week I am going to try wearing a abdominal binder.  Anti-inflammatory / muscle relaxer hopefully to repair the damage of what I may have done this week.  I will let you all know what I find.  But has anyone else felt / or tried this?  Do you feel like not enough room for your organs and if you sit with one side elongated that you may be able to get a deep breath and make room?

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The problem with H-pilori is that if it goes undetected for too long it sits in your stomach and eats at the lining, and can cause different things like gaseritis and ulcertive colitis. Be careful alot of people mistake H-pilori for heartburn and indegestion.
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today I had an. endoscopy done.It shows that i have severe gastritis..medical report says
Grade B reflux.Corpus gastritis no ulcers.the doc gave me medicine for 1 and a half months...i'm hoping and praying that my pain would go off as i have two kids to care for.I sincerely pray  also  for others to recover soon so that we  could all get  on with our lives.
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I also have pain under my right ribs/breast.  I had a vertical sleeve gastrectomy (stomach reduction) to lose weight in June.  Immediately following the surgery I had sharp pain in that area when breathing, especially when I breathed deeply or when yawning.  Over the couple of weeks following the surgery, it got better but it has been 7 months now and still hasn't gone away.  I noticed one of the early posts about this described it being like something was in there and that is what I thought, maybe something got left in there during the surgery.  Since I have a history of smoking, I also thought it may be lung cancer.  I had a chest x-ray last week and I'm waiting for the results.  I'm also going to try the chiropractor since I often have back pain just below my shoulder directly behind where the pain in the front of my URQ is.  My pain is not debilitating, just worrisome.  If I find any cure, I will certainly re-post!
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Add me to the list of many. My pain is not severe but still a pain I am getting tired of. But contance on my right side just at and below my ribs. I too went to have scans etc. Nothing! I was thinking liver but had good blood work come back.
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To many on this forum, please consider and research lyme disease.  I had many of your symptoms including upper right quadrant pain for years until I was finally diagnosed with lyme disease.  It affect every part of your body along with its coinfections.  I believe my URQ pain was from my liver being congested from the many infections.  Please be aware that lyme testing is very unreliable and controversial.  A negative test does not necessarily mean you do not have lyme.  You must request a western blot and study the banding.  Lyme will be an epidemic in the years to come.  Make yourself aware of it.
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DIAGNOSIS SUGGESTION. After 12 years of attacks of RUQ pain, I think I have finally found a diagnosis! I want to share it, in hopes that it helps someone else. If you have pain and you recently had your gallbladder removed, or if you had a Hida Scan (gallbladder fuctionality test) and the test caused the same RUQ pain, or if you have undiagnosed RUQ pain at all, you should at least look at the Sphincter of Oddi (SOD) dysfunction. The SOD is the muscle that controls the release of bile from your bile ducts and pancreas. The dysfunction causes severe colicky RUQ or sternum pain like a kidney stone, it can cause increased liver and pancreatic values (but often does not, mine has not in 12 years, or like with gallbladder issues, the elevated values may not show up until days or even weeks after the attach), vomiting, nausea, etc. My pain generally is focused directly under the right ribs, but sometimes radiates to the center of my sternum and my back. I had my first attack in 1999. Since then, I've been given over 40 diagnoses, and undergone multiple procedures and nearly a dozen surgeries!

I saw a Mystery Diagnosis show on SOD dysfunction over a year ago and thought, "No, that can't be what I have because I'm not as sick as the patient on the show."  Well, I wasn't then, but after 12 years, the attacks got really bad after I had my gallbladder removed, and I finally developed some other symptoms of SOD dysfunction - certain foods, especially greasy, high fat foods can trigger an attack (literally, a bite of greasy food can cause a pain like an ice pick through your ribs, but the next bite of something not greasy is fine); vomiting (finally, though I've nausea and diarrhea for years, I had to puke before it became a real symptom), and low grade fever. After being admitted to the hospital for dehydration and malnutrition because the latest attack left me unable to eat or drink for several days, I still had to insist that the doctors keep me in the hospital when I was rehydrated to try to find the cause of the problem or otherwise, I'd have ended up right back there again since I still couldn't eat.  Luckily, I caught my gastroenterologist on rounds at the hospital before he was real awake that morning. (He's the best in town, but his favorite answer to a suggested diagnosis is "Oh, you don't want to go down that road - if that's what it is...the treatments are terrible or it just means it could be a number of things or well, that might be it, but let's not test for it, let's just try more drugs). However, I just hit him with the question first thing - I said "I looked at the symptoms for SOD dysfunction and it sounds a lot like this...what do you think?" He replied "Oh, you have classic SOD dysfunction symptoms...." Then he caught himself and added that the treatments are dangerous - they can cause pancreatitis, but doesn't say you can get it if you don't treat it! He then goes on to recommend that I see a neurologist for chronic pain treatment (i.e., drugs), when I'm having an attack that could be causing damage to my pancreas and liver! He also neglects to mention that SOD dysfunction can be tested for by having a pain management doctor or neurologist inject lidocaine into the muscle to numb it. If it works, they can also do injections regularly to keep the muscle relaxed, or if that fails, there are procedures for cutting the muscle but some of these techniques are still being studied for long-term effects. There are several studies going on right now at various medical schools around the country, so SOD dysfuction seems to be a relatively new diagnosis. That said, anyone who's pain got worse after gallbladder surgery should definitely check into this disorder, and if you have RUQ pain, at least look it up on the Internet.

I'm hoping to get the injection into the SOD muscle this week and will provide an update on whether this works. Thanks to everyone for their posts - it really made me feel better knowing I wasn't the only one with this pain, but I feel awful that so many are suffering through this too! Please let all of us here know what your final diagnosis is, when you get one, so others can know what else to ask their doctors. I am so tired of doctors telling us not to look up our symptoms on the Internet also. We should be knowledgeable about our treatments, conditions, alternative diagnoses! If I had accepted any of the diagnoses prior to this one, who knows how sick I'd be by now? With this condition, I've been diagnosed with everything from interstitial cystitis, IBS, endometriosis and scar tissue to "something Western medicine cannot cure."

Also, would everyone please tell their worst diagnosis ever?  And your worst experience with a doctor (don't name names)? I think it would help me (and hopefully others) to know if doctors are as condescending and awful as they are with me! If I ask a question, I'm "doubting" them or questioning their judgment (anyone does that to you, find another doctor). I'm also working on putting together some information for a letter to send to the doctors and hospitals that didn't diagnose me properly and would love to know if everyone's comments would be the same as mine. I plan on copying the appropriate medical boards on these letters to see if they'll at least address the issue of patients like us by insisting that doctors take more continuing education courses or something!

You are all in my prayers! May each of us find a diagnosis and live a pain-free life again! In the meantime, may we all do our part to make getting a diagnosis easier for the next person, who could be our father, mother, child, sister, brother....
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I as well have the same pain and the same test and same answers.
Very frustrating I must say.  you can have liver disease and show normal enzymes.  I think Doctors are ignoring basic guidelines on diagnosing people to have test come back normal and them to just say " well every  thing is normal" nothing else to do for you.!!  That is Bull Crap! Get on with truly diagnosing things.  I believe they need to start doing pet scans and liver biopsy on patients with pain of this nature.  Why wait until its to late and then so OOOOPPppps.... This is medical mapractice in my opinion.
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Hello all, I would like you all to see this link and tell me if you guys have the problem.


http://www.healthline.com/symptomsearch?addterm=Right%20Upper%20Quadrant%20Pain like you all to see this link and tell me if you guys have the problem.
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Hello everyone. I, too, have been experiencing this mysterious pain, for only two weeks, though. I was setting up some DVR boxes in our house and it involved me getting on the floor, moving wires, etc. And, I noticed the pain begin at that moment. I felt weird, as if I had pulled a muscle. It has been 2 weeks to the day now, and I've spent the last 2 weeks in a state of paranoia and a constant low pain in my right side (Sometimes it feels right underneath my rib cage, sometimes it feels as if it moves to my back, or right above my hip onto my pelvis (Where the top of my pants sit). I've come across this site, and I am really hoping it isn't serious. I am 19 years old, male, no previous health problems, right at the average weight for a guy my size (5"8 145 lbs), and I still live at home with my folks (full time college student). That area of my abdomen/chest feels warm to the touch. As I sit here and type this, I notice my back is becoming stiff/hurting (it could be a result of me being stressed out, but this added symptom seems to point to liver cancer... ) It could be that I sit at my desk for hours on end (I work from home, and I am taking online classes). But, you just never know. I am going to the doctor soon, and I am hoping that this is something that can be easily treated. I had an uncle that became diagnosed with cancer at the same age I am now, and he died 4 years later. I also had an aunt die from liver cancer just this last year, so, it is safe to assume that I am paranoid out of my mind.
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I started having all these symptoms last year...and each time it gets worse...and happens in shorter time frames....I had one episode in march of last year...just the sharp pains in the RUQ area...then in july of 2010 it got much worse...came back home drank a propel water and then bam it hit me..intense sharp pains...pail white....sweats but i was cold skinned...it almost knocked me out..thought I was going to die..I even called my friend to take me to the er...but I toughed it out and everything went away in about 45 minutes to an hour...and then on thanksgiving day of 2010 i had another episode..this one last for about four hours...the pain did not go away but i got some of my strength back....and recently...I had another huge episode but this time (oh and by the way when the pain comes i have to walk around and when i get to lay down i can lay on that side  of my stomach) I was standing straight up to make sure my blood was flowing because both my right hand and left starting tingling/like they were becoming numb almost up to my fore arm....I thought this was the end....not sure what it is but after reading this entire blog not sure if I want to go to the doctor...Ive been reading all the symptoms to the possible issues and none of them really fit what I am experiencing....has anyone found anything out...before I go to the doctor...I have unemployment insurance and its hard to imagine they will pay for it..the pain is so unbearable that its even pushed pain upward towards my heart and lungs at one attack...i believe it was the one in july....We all should or someone take this entire blog to a specialist and let them do studies on this...I am going to bookmark this page and let someone of interest read over this crazy disorder that seam not to have a diagnosis...please let me know if someone finds something...
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Like all of you, I have been experiencing these symptoms for years. Until they started, I was an extremely active/athletic female, currently 54 years old. After my first trip to the emergency room in October 2008, I was diagnosed with gall stones. I had gall bladder removed that month. A month later, I was in the emergency room again with chest pain. They ran a cardiac panel and did a CT scan - nothing.

Things got better, but I had a constant, nagging pain in my mid-right back area. I had another flair up last April and blood tests indicated elevated liver enzymes. The doctor was concerned because I shared that I had been over-exposured to chemical pesticides and insecticides on the job. The levels were back to normal after two weeks of no exposure, but he suggested I see a Naturopath for liver detox and possible hormone-related issues. I went through a rigorous liver detox process.

I felt pretty good for a few months though the side/back pain persisted at a lower level.

Then, in October 2010, I experienced another flair up, this time it has not subsided completely, though the pain had been 5-6 on a scale of 10. It involved another trip to the ER. In January, the pain intensified to an 8-10. Don't know if it's related, but I had recently begun exercising again. Back to the ER with a diagnosis of "probable ulcer" and related medications to go with that diagnosis. No tests were conducted. No relief from those meds.

I was finally referred to a GI doctor this month. So far, I've had ultrasounds, an endoscopy, an MRCP, all the blood profiles, urine tests, etc. Nothing. The GI Doc recommended I take Nexium twice a day for two weeks and call him back. Though we mentioned the SOD possibility, neither the GI doc nor the ER Doc acknowledged that we even mentioned it? I put myself on a bland diet to see if that helps in the meanwhile.

I have researched the SOD issue, thanks to this blog, and found a program at Virginia Mason in Seattle that is involved in clinical trials regarding treatment for SOD. Unfortunately, because of my current insurance coverage, I have to jump through all the hoops with my current GI doctor before I can request referral to someone else, but I thought this might be helpful to some of you. The clinical trials are being run in several different areas other than Seattle. Maybe one would be close to some of you if you have the means to get there? I found it by searching SOD.

I still have no idea that this is even potentially the problem, but I think the more educated we all become and the more we share, the better we are at being advocates for ourselves. Gone are the days when we should rely on and blindly trust doctors. As with any profession, some are good and some are not?
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Well hello, and I must say I am a bit surprised to have read through all of the posts here and find so many with the same symptoms.  I have had URQ pain for a few months now and sometimes they are quite sharp and take me to the floor in to the fetal postion to alleviate the pain.  My situation started around Mid October, 2010 when I started having acid reflux and constipation issues.  Over the next few weeks after the initial symptoms started, I went to my Primary care manager for the same symptoms as nothing they did seemed to work.  Oh, the whites of my eyes started turning a bit yellow as well.  After the blood work results came back they immediately called me and the run of tests began.  My Biliruban was elevated (as high as 18 at one point) , AST's, ALT's were elevated.  I am not a drinker so that cause (Alcohloism) was ruled out, so they turned to a potential autoimmune or drug induced (lisnopril being the possible culprit).  They are still troubled by the accute onset of my symptoms.  Anyway, my GI doc is going with autoimmune diagnosis and treating with prednilisone (??), Steroids, that is.  During the course of all of these issues, I landed myself in the hospital about twelve hours or so after a liver biopsy due to the seve URQ pain I was having and the fact the theVicodin they gave mejust was not curbing the pain.  Three days later, and the CT, Ultra sound, MRCP, MRI, etc... were completed, they only found a small syst on the pancreas and nothing remarkable about the liver., which of course was my fear.  

After having said all of that it has been about a month and a half since my hospital visit and the constant mild URQ pain throughout the day is always present.  The early evening pain gets a little worse an laying down on my back or left side does seem to help.  The stabbing pains occur without notice and as said above, they have taken me to the floor in a fetal position because of the severity.  Pain meds do help, but what am I masking????  I would really like to know the cause of this consistant pain, as I am sure all of us here would.  I have joined the community and look forward to reading on and hopefully learning from each othe what we can possibly do to get the proper diagnosis and get on the road to a proper recovery
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Oh, wanted to add, from my last post, 15-20 minutes ago, that Like others, I have had some tingling fingers and numbness on my upper extremeties.  I thought this was pretty weird since I have never had thse issues before.  My feet tend to fall asleep as well if I position my self wrong, but I figured that was normal too, and it might be but It does seem so happen a lot quicker that it used to.  I just wanted to add that since others are having similar symptoms, especially in the pinky finger numbness which I get frequently, mostly in my right arm and fingers
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Went to ER pain was so bad in right side around lower rib. Got x-rayed got Scanned MRI the works even a shot of Morphene. Doctors found nothing. I  was prescribed vicodin and muscle relaxants. Thinking I pulled a muscle in that area for Tai Chi. Vicodin makes me sick to my stomach relaxants’ did not help. Pain is worse at night time. I just got over shingles and took antibiotics for this. So I did some  internet research.
I started walking a lot, morning and early evening. (walk standing still whatever but, move)  I sit too much anyway working in an office. I started on Raw Fermented unpasturized SouerKraut (health food store) and took 3 -4 pills a day of over the counter probiotics (not just one a-day as on label) ."Solaray" Multidophilus is one brand.  My life changed in 2 days.  The pain is gone during the day.  Just a little bothersome at nite time.  I expel gas constantly but, this may be just intestines unable to function normally do to no digestive bacteria…oh and I am drinking herbal tea called “Tension Tamer” and slugging down a cup or two of prune juice. Just simple things to aid the guts to work properly. Bad food, antibiotics no exercise, immune system not working good. Who knew it could cause just pain in my right side lower rib area.
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Hi I have been having the same pains, they are unbearable at times, and tired from lack of sleep, due to the pains, thinking it was everyhting under the sun,  woried to go to the doctor after reading a lot of  the messages, but I did go and happy i did, as I have now found out what all this pain is under the right rib right through to my back, it is shingles, I can hardly touch the skin as so painful, but the worse pain is the inner pain,  but the doctor knew before she even looked at the area, then when she did she foung a small   rash about the size of my thumb nail, so now on meds, hoping it does ntot spread,  so if your doctor does not know what it is next time ask him to check you for shingles
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This is crazy that so many people have this pain/symptoms & no dr can seem to figure it out!
I am a 32 year old woman who has had constant symptoms for over 5 months. I have seen my primary dr, 2 GI specialists, have had a CAT scan, Ultrasound, X-rays, HIDA scan and so much bloodwork and everything is normal. I have been given a diagnosis of IBS, acid reflux and bad diet. Last week I had to go to the ER because of excruciating back pain. They did an x-ray (which was fine) and gave me Percocet for pain.
It is crazy how the pain controls your life. I am hoping that someone soon will be able to figure this out and we will all get a sense of relief!
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Becy you very well could have sod but most GIs are not experienced enough to diagnose it.  The best thing is to find a specialist who deals with sod so you can get checked for it. Many of us have had to travel to other states to find specialists since there are only a handful in the us.  I went to Dr Cotton at MUSC in SC.  In the mean time you can get your liver levels tested a few hours after an attack to see if they are elevated.  This can be a symptom of sod.  Also chronic pancreatitis can cause this pain.  It often will not show up on CT and an eus procedure by a very qualified doctor is needed to diagnose it.
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Having the same problem. There is so many people on here with the pain. I have gone thru all the test and scans to and nothing. The pain got so bad I ended up in the er 3 times in the last 4 weeks. The first time was the worst. And had a fever of 13 with it. Everyday I have pain sometime bad other times not so much. But the Doc won't give me any thing for the pain until they know whats causing it. Not liver, not gallbladder, or the bile duct. Have had it all tested. Wish someone had the answer.
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Hi, I thought I was going crazy!  I have been having the pain in my upper right rib cage area for a long time now.  I mentioned it to my PMD, and he then said that it was probably after I had my kids (that floating rib thing) and blew me off.  I was then like "what does it do, then just hang around" and I didn't really get an answer.  He only prodded my rib area and blew me off.  Strange thing is I specifically remember that it all started while PG with my first son and that he loved to put his feet in my ribs and twist and kick like crazy.  He was the same when he was born, doc said he had one hell of strong legs.  I ended up having huge sciatic problems with my leg and back with my son and these did not get better until he was being born and he moved off the nerve during delivery (I even had back labor with him that about killed me).  The  with my second child, I remember the back and leg issues again immediately, but not having her foot and the pain in the ribs again.  It was shortly after her birth that I remember having a stitch in my ribs and pain, especially with certain movements.  Now I have fallen 2 more times (probably about 5 times in all) and have huge back issues with a dislocated disc at L5-S1 and huge sicatic leg issues for years now.  I know that my whole spine and back and hips and just about everything are tilted to one side.  I have two special needs kids, and no support to get anything done with the back at present.  But, the question I have here (I totally have the exact same symptoms you all claim) is that recently in the last couple months things are progressing and I am scared and in increasing pain.  The pain is still in the right side.  But, now I am getting a lot of the same thing happening in the left side too.  Has anyone had this happen?  The right hurts, like the devil and catches and is intense until it will release.  But, the left feels like it is swollen (such as the right) and it feels strange.  I tell my husband, that when I sit down or lean against pillows it feels like our sons foot is in there again (early on I kept relating it to the feeling of butterflies (they told me that when I was PG, and the example really was very close to the baby moving) and now I tell him it feel like Rodents running around and pushing and tugging at my insides while I'm sitting there.  There is pressure, movement and what the hell is happening.  Someone please tell me I am not crazy.  This hurts like crazy, and I am scared.  I think I will go again and try to push him to look into it.  But, we have so much medical with the kids, and then I have to demand someone watch them so that I can go.  If he says it has to do with my back, it won't get any tx then as I can't even make it to PT to help with that again.  Sorry, but this is all crazy!!  looking for your ideas and support.   Thanks for listening!  
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I have noticed the pain on my right side starting on my left as well. Not as bad but still some pressure in the area.
I just saw my GI today for my follow up and he said that he is stumped-they did all the tests and they were all negative-so he is sending me to an Orthopedic specialist because he thinks it is related to my back/spine. He called it something that it may be but I forget because I was in such a daze. I just want answers & relief!!
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I am 5 weeks post gallbladder removal and the RUQ pain has increased.  I am a long distance runner and was cleared to run 2 weeks ago.  I ran once at 3 weeks post op and could only go 1.75 miles because the pain became so intense.  I waited until 2 days ago to try again and I ran 2.4 miles and had to stop.  I did try running again the next day but only made it 1.73 miles and yesterday the pain lingered all day long.  Today it is much worse.  I have taken otc pain meds with no relief.  It is even starting to effect my appitite.  I am supose to start my 12 week training for a 1/2 marathon in 2 weeks and I can't even make 2.5 miles!  It feels like a bad side ache while running and just intensifies after I stop!
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No good news here, I'm afraid. After many weeks in constant pain, my GI doc prescribed Viokase 16 thinking that the problem may be related to inadequate pancreatic function? After researching the condition, I don't know what to think? AND, this particular "drug" is not available in any of our local pharmacies. Seems it was taken off the market pending FDA approval because it is enzyme-related and therefore up until a few years ago, was not regulated properly?(whatever that means???????) I don't have much confidence in the FDA for many reasons (i.e. all of the recalls and issues related to FDA approved drugs such as Accutane, Zoloft, etc. many, many others.) Walgreens said they could get the prescribed med, but it makes me wonder what our health care system/government is doing to impede our care?? Meanwhile, I'm at the point of surrender. I do not want to live like this.
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Could it be related to the mouth. I have the same symptoms and have a root canal on my left upper side toward the front. That whole side of my mouth hurts as well as ringing in my left ear. My ruq pain is dull and I was sure it was my gallbladder. Ultrasound showed some sludge. Sometimes the pain is by my appendix, but mostly around my gallbladder. I am just trying to connect anything that could be causing this. Another idea is the possibility of nano particles from make-up or mercury filling parts lodged into the organ. I know it sounds far fetched. The doctors can't seem to come up with any better ideas.
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I'm amazed to have found so many of you with symptoms like mine.  

I'm a 51 year old male. Healthy. Never had surgery. I am on one prescribed med - a PPI for gastric reflux that I began taking last summer.

For years I have experienced dull local pain emanating from underneath ribs 7 & 8 below my shoulder blades. At first it bothered me when i stayed in hotels - and I blamed the mattress. Then it began bothering me at home whenever I stayed in bed longer than 6.5 hours.

It would be relieved within a half hour of getting out of bed. But lately it has remained and can spasm. I can get no relief and it affects my sleep. I have no nausea or indigestion.

Two weeks ago I began cardio workouts - eliptical and lightweight dumbbells. I annoyed my right shoulder by overdoing push ups. I wonder if that's related.

I am glad to have learned so much from you about your course of treatment. I will be an informed medical consumer when I schedule a MD appointment.

Question: It seems that no one who has posted has experienced relief.Is this so?
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I am a 39 yr old female who had gallbladder removal surgery last March and since that time have been having increasing upper rib pain.  At my 6 week check after surgery my gasto doc blew me off as having indigestion and had me take gas x.......the pain has only been getting worse.  I went to my PCP  in Nov and he said that I had iflamation in my rib joint and had a floater rib, take some steriods and antiflamatorties.  I am still no better only worse!  I went to the ER last week and they said that I had inflamation (inflammation) in my rib joint.  If I move wrong or have a bowl movement it is almost too much.  I am so tired of going doc to doc while my pain daily is getting worse and worse.  I am taking extra strength tylenols to get through the day.  any suggestions??? i am tired of the pain!!!
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Well I have all of the above problems.  I am so fed up with the constant pain.  I go to sleep with it and wake up to it.  All day everyday.  I have lost my job do to this f----- problem.  I have had every test done in three different states.  I have come to realize that doctors are the highest paid guessers in the f------ world.  So sorry to all but dont reliey on them they will get you no where.  I designed a quick solution to all your stomach problems.  Just take a pill of fu-- itall and ask god for your forgiveness and kill yourself.  This seems to be the only way out of this problem.   so my family knows  love them and well see if this works
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I got the aching ribs and pain in the liver area and into the back between shoulder blades around the begining of Feb. Mostly when lying down.The pain gets so bad I have to get up untill it goes away. When I do fall asleep it often wakes me up.Went to the DR had a CAT scan and blood test for liver, pancreas,ect. Everything looked normal.The CAT scan did show I have some curvature of the spine.I have no fever, no nausea,no diarhea (diarrhea),no constipation, just pain.The DR sent me for an xray of my spine, he said maybe it is pressing on something. The xray showed my spine is curved. He also showed me a large cloudy area and said the is all feces in there.I had a good BM that morning like every morning, I eat a lot of fiber, friut and vegtables and whole grains and could swear I'm not constipated. DR told me to get some Phillips Milk of Magnesia and take 2 tablespoons twice a day for 2-3 days. He said when your bowels aren't emptying it backs up and causes pressure when can cause pain.I started taking the PMOM Friday afternoon,Friday night a lot of pain.Sat night no pain.I stopped taking the PMOM Sunday morning because I go to work Sun night. It did cause diarhea (diarrhea) but I always had plenty of time to get to a bathroom.My pain went away for 4 days. When it can back it was nowhere near as bad.Now that it is weekend I'm back on the PMOM and no pain.
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I have the same left pinkie numbness! What is that? Is there a connection between URQ pain and the pinkie? Please advise.
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I also have pain in the URQ as well as numbing that mainly affects my right leg that is so annoying.  I've had tons of blood work, ct scan, hida scan, ultrasound all pointing to "normal."  I'm trying to narrow it down to a full tummy tuck or my monthly cycle since it seems to vary in intensity.  Have any of you had a tummy tuck or tracked it with your cycle (if female of course)
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I totally agree with you that alot of this IS stress related.  I have just started to have RUQ discomfort that radiates to my back.  Had my gallbladder out about 5 years ago, but I sware this feels just like that kind of pain.  
I am a highly intense individual and do alot of heavy moving and shifting of a handicapped client.  After reading several of these posts I have, at least for the moment, come to the conclusion that this is an irritated muscle issue brought on by work and stress, and is mimicking my gallbladder issues.  
The last thing on earth that I need is another PILL!  I will, of course, continue to monitor my symptoms, but I am also going to be making an appointment to see my massage therapist.  
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I have had this pain since August with no relief. I used to be a mid-distance runner and each time I run I can last until I begin to get labored breathing and a few minutes later it turns into intense pain in the RUQ under my ribs - feels like the worst sidecramp ever and I have to stop immediately. If I run two days in a row or even every other day the pain starts earlier and I have to stop sooner. I have not had a pain free run in almost 7 months and its killing me. It also hurts to breath deeply 24/7, and pain comes when I am sitting, twisting, lifting things. It feels like there is a tennis ball wedged under my right rib cage, and hurts to palpate under the rib cage.

Dr thought I had costochondritis but NSAID's didnt help my pain. Then we tried a steroid inhalar as I was wheezing and it may have been exercise induced asthma or allergies exacerbated by my move to a new city with different allergens. I had my gall bladder out 4 years ago and the only remaining possible diagnosis from my internist is adhesions from my gall bladder surgery. I think it must be stress induced but I can't seem to make it better.
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Did you ever find out the cause of your pain or get any relief from it?  I have pain beneath both ribs and no one has been able to diagnose it.  Your answer if you get this please.
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I have got rid of 90% of the pain.

Here's my story:

My original post in this thread dates back to May 20th, 2008. It's been almost 6 years that I've been looking for some remedy and sadly conventional medicine failed me miserably. Like most of you, I have had a whole array of time consuming and expensive tests done ranging from simple blood test to HIDA, ultrasound, and gastroscopy. Everything came back negative. At one time my family doc said my blood test results were the best they have had of any patient for years, quite ironic when you know something's not right.

I've had my gastrointestinal specialist drop my case because he reached the end of the road with my diagnosis and could not find what was wrong. I was on my own. But I didn't give up. I kept leading a healthy life style, with a lot of physical activities, gym several times a week, well balanced diet (or so I thought, more on this later), yet no break with the pain.

As it's been almost 6 years and no hope for a remedy, I accepted the fact that I have to live with it and got used to it to the point of almost not noticing it most of the time. Then it got worse during the 2010 Holidays. For couple of months I stopped going to the gym and ate more then ever, what made me bulk from about 175lb to 190lb in about 3 months. I didn't stress about it too much because I knew I would be back in the gym sooner or later and the gain will be taken care of.

But meanwhile something interesting happened to me that gave me a clue about the possible source of the pain. One day, out of the blue, in 5 minutes I went from fully mobile to lying flat on the bed unable to move because of a severe back pain. First I thought it was a sudden kidney infection pain, since it was located right between kidneys and radiating to the right and left side. The next day my doctor rulled out the kidney infection because I had no other symptoms besides the paralizing back pain. The night before the doctor visit, I had the whole upper right quadrant spaz uncontrolably for periods of time. Almost as if someone was yanking on the nerves causing the muscles to of the whole URQ ab area to contract. It just happened that the URQ was on the same horizontal plane as the source of the back pain I had. I told my doctor about it, and he immidiately wrote me a referal to a local chiropractor.

The chiropractor diagnosed me with a very mild "S" shaped scoliosis, and coincidentally the lower bent is exactly in the spot where the pain originated. The most possible explanation is a spine subluxation, which pinches the major nerve root coming out of the spine that feeds signals to the whole upper right quandrant. Hence the muscle spazing and the long term pain.

I have gone to so far six chiropractor sessions. Each one of them consisted of spine alignment, deep tissue massage, and electrical stimulation. Spine alignment is okay, once you feel comfortable with being peacefully tortured. The deep tissue massage was a very painful the first two sessions, later it felt great, and I couldn't wait until the next session. The electrical stimulation is a 15 min long therapy with electrical impulses being delivered to the pain areas via pads that stick to the skin. It's quite an experience but it's very relaxing afterwards.

In general the chiropractor has helped with about 50% of the pain. I achieved reducing the remaining pain by changing my diet. Before, due to my high activity levels and hours spent in the gym, I was on basically a "see-food" diet. I saw it, I ate it. Most of the calories came from proteins and carbs, with some healthy fats here and there. I thought that was the way to do it, that's what I was being thaught by the mass media and the government.

The real change came when I switched to low-carbs diet. Most people will associate it with Atkins, and that's exactly what it is with the only difference being that I do a slight modification of that diet called 'targeted keto diet' or TKD. Atkins or any low-carbs diet is good for an average person, keto is for anyone involved in vigirous physical activities.
Changing my diet has been one of the best decisions I have made about my health in all of my life. A bit of discomfort is still there once in a while, I guess it'll take time to heal and regenerate, I feel great, energetic, I'm losing fat like crazy, and best of all I enjoy some of the best tasting meals ever.

More info about subluxations for that specific area of the spine:
http://www.echiropractic.net/nclumbars.htm
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Thank you for sharing your story.
My URQ pain began with two distinct and extreme bouts of nausea a week apart and then progressively has gotten worse from Aug of 2010 until the present April 2011. Diagnosed as Gallstones at first, then as an ulcer and now an Abdominal Strain.  I've been working on all of these over this period of time. My blood work has been stellar, my CT Scan came back with mild degeneration of the spine (most likely normal for my 58 years). I don't have a lot of money right now to explore more testing.  I just began to work on Physical Therapy to strengthen my core and that has helped some but I have more questions than answers. My physical Therapist told me that most general  medical doctors really know very little about the muscular skeletal system and it's disorders and that makes sense that they concentrate more on internal issues. I think more of the folks here should consider muscular skeletal options. Perhaps a sports medicine doctor, a Chiropractor (where you were helped), a physical therapist or even massage therapist could really help folks who are dealing with URQ pain..  Those are directions I am going to explore.  I was sure mine was an internal problem,  but now I am not so sure. I do think I worried my ulcer into existence. Been under a lot of stress for the past two years.That is certainly a factor as stress causes so many health issues.  I also may have unknowingly set off the ulcer. Being a Vegetarian and then Vegan with a very clean diet I mistakenly began taking too high a dose of digestive enzymes with HCL and pepsin. If my acid levels were already adequate or even high that could have caused a stomach lining ulcer. Not sure, that is just one of my thoughts.    A good clean diet  (quality fresh, local, organic) whether or not it includes animal products or not, should concentrate on raw and whole not overcooked and processed foods. Green Veggie Juicing is another thing that has greatly improved my health. Other than my strange URQ pain I am in good shape and have good energy.   My only problem is that I tend to concentrate on my pain and that depresses me from time to time.  I have a very low tolerance for pain- It's is odd that my twin brother has an extremely high (really dangerous)  tolerance for pain. Many of my friends and probably my doctors as well must think I am a hypochondriac, but I know that is not true as I would so love not to be in pain. I don't care what they think.  This is real and sometimes I don't think I can take it anymore. I don't take pain meds ( Vicodin )  very often maybe once to three times a month (hate taking them- hard on the liver and I don't like how they make me feel)  but I have become rather Dependant on 1/2 to 1 mg of Ativan (Lorazepam) to be able to sleep at night and I have heard that it is very addictive.So that concerns me.   I also have faith that leads me to believe that God has a purpose for my suffering - not that he 'causes' it in any way but that He is using it for my blessing. A hard concept to get your mind around. If you have not believed in Jesus Christ as mankind's connection to God don't even try to go there. Jesus said, "I am the Way, The Truth, and the Life and no man comes to the Father except by me."  My relationship with Him is my life and this life with all it's joys, sorrows and pain is only a short space of time. Lots of good emotional and spiritual growth has been taking place because of my pain. I know that without this pain in my life I would not be growing like I have and for that I am grateful. I am just in need of a vacation from the pain from time to time. I have been improving and some mornings now I am not in pain until the afternoon or even the evenings.  
I am into alternative health but know there is a place for allopathic medicine as well. I do agree with the Hippocrates quote, "If you are not your own doctor, you are a fool." and think folks should be pro active if they want healing. Allopathic, conventional medicine mostly deals with controlling symptoms with drugs. Perhaps that is were the money is and perhaps it is a lost cause for doctors to think about trying to encourage folks to live healthier lives. We all just want to take a pill and feel better in the moment.

It is helpful and encourageing to hear others stories - again thank you for sharing yours.
    
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Some of the symptoms you are describing are consistent with coeliac disease, which is yet another of those things that unless you have the classical symptoms i.e. weight loss and diarrhoea, doctors immediately rule out. I am coeliac and was recently diagnosed after an absolute odyssey and a lot of bloody-mindedness but I had none of the typical symtoms (symptoms) except pain, bloating and bulky, floating stools. I actually gained a lot of weight on a low calorie diet, which is not uncommon in coleic disease. I also have the URQ pain, which is not being taken seriously as the docs are assuming it is the coeliac and my intestines are not healed, but I am pretty damn sure it is a different pain and is triggered by fat.

I am very interested in the sphincter or oddi thing as my brother started with chronic pancreatitis at the age of 40, I am 48 this year and feel like I am going absolutely crazy. I guess most of you are Americans, I am a Brit  living in Germany but it seems to be a case of same old, same old with doctors wherever you are.
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don't give up; i'm still looking for answers; i will get there yet.  still always in pain and discomfort in upper right = large intestine, but a lot better than what it was 4 years ago.  lots of cleansing of colon, then gall and para; lots of colonics and enemas.  vinegar helps cleanse also.  cure zone has some remedies.  lots of love and luck to us all.
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It is amazing I stumbled across this forum!  I was up again last night because I couldn't sleep.  For the past 6-8 months I have very similar URQ pain.  It is a pain that is hard to describe to a Dr.  It feels like a pinch, a twisting, a crampy, mildly burning, muscular type pain but even that doesn't describe it perfectly.  The pain is always there.  At times it seems more dull than others, almost so I don't notice it.  Other times, like last night, its strong and evident.  Its located on the upper right side, just under my lower ribs.  I did have my Gallbladder out in 1997.  In 2005, I began having pain again, very similar to the pain I was having with gallstones in 97.  I found out through tests that either gallstones were left behind during my original surgery, or they formed later.  In June of 2005, I went back in for surgery and 3 gallstones the size of marbles were removed from my small intestine.  All my issues at that time were resolved.  As I mentioned before I started having this pain in my URQ 6-8 months ago.  In the spot my gallbladder used to be. About 2 months ago I went to my Dr.  He took a chest x-ray and told me I had a lot of gas/feces in my intestines and needed to be cleaned out so to speak. When I saw the x-ray, and saw where my gallbladder used to be, there looked liked a TON of little marks, like a bunch of staples if you will, like over a hundred.  I dont know if this is possible scar tissue but I wished I had asked my Dr.  He told me to take Dulcolax, two pills a day for two days. Then take Miramax for 7 days and drink plenty of water.  Well I did this, and it seemed to get better for awhile. Not totally gone, but very tolerable and improved. But this past week it's back and the pain is strong.  I have had no other tests done yet but I am going back to the Dr this week hopefully.  I do have issues with constipation, but no bloody or tarry stools. No fever, no vomiting. No pain underneath my shoulder blades although this pain does at times radiate around to my side.  I am under immense stress right now.  I am tired a lot of the time which scares me that it is something bad.  But I am under stress, and depressed so I wonder if the fatigue is directly related to that. One thing interesting is the post I came across listing scoliosis.  I, too, have minor scoliosis and hadn't thought about my spine causing the possible issue. I will mention this to my Dr.  I have wondered if my liver is possibly inflamed because it sometimes feels like a mild burning sensation, but then again, it is hard to describe the exact pain and as I have been going out with my friends a lot, and we social drink, is what made me wonder about the liver being irritated.  I am 37 years old.  I do not smoke and I am not obese or overweight although I think I could stand to lose 5-10 pounds, I do not really have a  weight issue.  My diet although isn't the best.  We eat out too often and I wonder if I am consuming too much junk. Because I got laid off from work, I have been way too inactive. I intend to start working out again and get back into better shape. I also don't drink enough water, which may be leading to the constipation issue.  My diagnosis is this...getting older just *****! :D  This forum has been so helpful, mainly because now I know I am not alone in my frustration of not understanding why or what this possibly is.  I am sure I am in for quite the round of tests and I pray we find something that is causing it, and that it is not life-threatening.  I wish you all the best of luck and God be with you.
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This forum is really awesome and provides a lot of insight. I also have this URQ pain which started around January. Prior to the occurrence of the URQ, I experienced a ripping pain down the center of my abdomen right under the navel. I though it was some form of hernia but there was no bulge that formed. I underwent Ultrasound and found that the mid-line site was totally clear of any hernia or soft tissue protrusion, although, what the sonologist found was a polyp on the gallblader (gallbladder) measuring 0.6cm and gallstones that cannot be ruled out. The report only indicates that soft lithiasis are found, but gallstones can't be ruled out. A week after, the midline pain was gone but then it was replaced by stabbing pain in the URQ. Intense pain 8/10 can last for 1-3 minutes and then will be replaced by dull pain 4/10, this cycle repeats all throughout the day. My husband thinks I'm only acting up to gain attention. But the persistence of this URQ pain really frightens me. I don't want to think, I'll wake up in a few months and doctors will find a stage four carcinoma when they couldn't find any problem at this early moment. Doctor suspected it may be muscular but knowing how muscular pain can be,you can always expect some form of relief by bending and stretching the side muscles but the stabbing pain remains there no matter what position I do. The doctor gave me no medication and just advised me to drink more water and avoid oily foods. I underwent a second Ultrasound this April and the gallstones still cannot be ruled out. The polyp seems to have shrunk in size but this may be attributed to having a different angle during the repeat scan. I underwent diet changes and avoid eating oily foods totally. But still pain was on and off. It's been three months now. Though I'm not sure whether I have gallstones, I researched that grape or apple juice helps. So 1st week of April I started drinking concentrated grape juices and I was pain free every time I consumed the drink. Pain is gone for two-three days and even if I consumed something fried there is no pain at all. I experimented and stopped drinking the juice and soon after the sharp pain returns. As of the moment, it seems that the only relief I've had can be obtained from drinking a concentrated grape juice.
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My pain is sporadic.  It comes and goes, sometimes lasts a few hours sometimes as long as a week. I'm a 22 year old female with a nearly 3 month old. It started when my son was only a month old. I have had ultrasounds x rays and nothing conclusive. they gave me pain meds and it didn't help. Heat seems to help but I'm worried it might be something more.
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sounds like Crones disease
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I feel the same thing about the inside, I told the doc it feels like something is like a big balloon in the inside pushing my ribs out.

I also had mine after a uti.
I wonder if you ever had a cystoscopy or if anybody has?

I have the same problem and no help right now. G.I doctor suggested I take ibs pills for a month and call back in a month.

Regular doctor gave me acid pills which now I am hungry and can eat.

But this is very painfull and irriating.
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Hi everyone I am so glad to have found this website as it has provided a gate way of exploration- I must add that I am a nurse.

My pain started on christmas night- i was feeling lethargic that day but thought that it was just staying up later- @ 11 i had a wingding and instantly felt mind blowing pain- went to toilet coz i felt that the pain might be food poisoning but had no diarrohea- just constant INTENSE RUQ pain- that turned to pain in the rest of my abdomen but mainly intense in the RUQ just below/behind my last ribs- I took Endone and panadiene forte with no relief so my partner took me to the E.D- they gave me buscopan but that didnt really make the pain go away just lessened it- they d/c me home- an hour later after falling asleep from exhaustion- as i had been in E.D for 4 hours i woke up in EXTREME pain - worse than it was before i would rate it 20/10 in the pain score test- i felt like i couldnt breath and it hurt after deep breathing and after exhalation- In E.D it showed i was hypertensive and tachycardic- NO OPIOTES worked AT ALL- I was SCREAMING in pain moving around and uncomfortable the only place i tended to be in was lying left side foetal position. Soon after ALOT OF STRONG drugs was given- the pain finally settled- but i remained nauseas (no vomiting),
To cut a long story short i got it again soon after being d/c day after first incident the pain lasted 7 days- ranging from mild pain to MIND BLOWING pain, I have had a CT/Ultrasounds x4 - with nothing shown originally.

Then a week ago i got extreme pain again- again the above happened this time however they found i had a small cyst on my (r) ovary and queery PID- turns out i DONT have PID - as it was just inflamed from finishing my period and my cyst- is ovulation related and will go away during my cycle- i had all blood tests u can imagine- NOTHING- hep tests, infection, NOTHING. The drs originally thought it was my gall bladder- but CT and U/S was NAD- i had an endoscope for ulcers or inflammation- NOTHING. The dr's said- well we cant find anything- after being in hospital for 5 days i had another attack- the drs all came from different wards to discuss my condition- my pulse was over 160 my BP again hypertensive- i was hyperventilation from the pain coz as i mentioned before it felt like i couldnt breath- i was in pain this time for over an HOUR before the dr's came in- and do you know what they said? they said its psychosomatic- for those of you who arent medically knowledged basically there saying Its all in my head- im stressed or anxious and im making myself sick and in pain- i was NOT HAPPY at all i felt humiliated and angry- i had a psych review- im Sane :) ( i could of told them that!!-as a matter of fact i did) so back to the drawing board- this is when i came to this website and found someone mention acute intermittent porphyria- my mum had said she and all the women in her family have the same pain and have gone through tests and found nothing- (i had no idea until after my 5th attack) and all the symptoms MATCH in still currently in hospital now- Its been over a week- I told the dr- and even though its a VERY rare condition- after telling him about my family history he agreed to doing the test- (special test) so here i am waiting for the results- even though i dont want to have a genetic disease- i am HOPEING that this is it- the pain is Unbareable and Its NOT IN MY HEAD- my message is- dont let anyone tell you its in your head- i have questioned myself if this pain is real and i still do because of them questioning my sanity- but dont give up- even if its not that condition im not going to give up because i want to say to the drs- " just because you've done tests and cant find anything DOES NOT MEAN that my pain is not real and you should further investigate pain and treat patients rather than be annoyed that YOU cant figure it out- imagine MY PAIN and MY feelings with it" I urge you all to exhaust all avenues because its B*** sh*T the attitude drs give to us patients with "mystery diagnoses"- its a MYSTERY not a mental disease!!!
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I have the same URQ pain as all the above.  Had Xrays, CT Scan, Ultra Sound, Stress Test, Gyno testing and then was sent to a urologist who didn't even look at me but did pull the CT Scan and looked at it.  He said there was extreme bulk in my bowel (why did no one else tell me this???) and to take a laxitive everyday for a week.  I was having a bowel movement everyday but told him I would try it.  I should add that I wasn't having the feeling of the 'urge', but would make myself go.  Had previously made an appointment with an Internalist and the appointment was the next day and I told him what the Urologist told me....he prescribed Miralax to take for 2 weeks.  I took it for two weeks and the pain was subsiding but not leaving.  I decided to take the 'bomb' (Nursing home name for Milk of Mag and prune juice heated up).  Internalist was going to give me a gall bladder test if the Miralax didn't work and I had already spent about $7000 on all the testing...didn't want another test!  I should add I also visited the chiropractor and he adjusted my lower back and it quit hurting for one day.  At the same time I started drinking apple cider, about a half gallon a day and drinking a mixture of apple cider vinegar, lemonade and olive oil every morning, which is a gall bladder cleanse.  One of the two things worked...either the gall bladder cleanse or the bomb...it quit hurting for about 2 months.  This last week it has started hurting again and I've taken another 'bomb'.  It quit hurting for the night until but started again this morning....until another bowel movement and it's stopped hurting again.  

One writer mentioned not eating carbs as a remedy.  I had wondered about that muself as when it started the first time I was baking alot of whole wheat bread.  I stopped eating bread for three months until this week when I made strawberry jam and was eating bread again.  It started hurting again.  Coincidence?

The bomb made it go away...but is wheat the cause?  Or something IN the wheat...like Round-Up herbacide that they spray on the fields before planting?  Just a thought.

If anyone else tries this, please put your results here.  
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Hi all! Like you I have dealt with the same pain, fatigue and numbness in extremities Since I was in high school. At almost 32, I have been diagnosed with Celiac Disease. If I adhere to a STRICT GLUTEN FREE diet, my symptoms are pretty much gone. I still have numbness in joints and hands which I have been told is nerve damage caused by the disease.
I realize it might sound crazy, but take it from someone who used to look 5 mos pregnant, chronic migraines and stomache aches, this has been a savior. I am not 100% but as close as I have been in a long time.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE read up on the disease and discuss with your physician!!!!
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I am in the same boat, my pain is mostly in the upper right side, some times in the middle side. I am so sick of being sick. All of my test have came back normal to. Hida scan, ultrasound of liver and gallbladder, IVP of my kidney, which 1 month later had kidney stones., 2 ct scans, upper gi endoscope.  I am tired of feeling this pain. It feels like a burning, some time sharp pain, duall aching pain. I like to lay on my back to relieve. A little comfort, but my pain is consist. I am now going to a neuro doctor thinking it could be a pinch nerve. Weird right. Sometimes I still think it might be a gallbladder problems even though test come back negative. Any advice.
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I too, but seems no body is answering to this questions
seriously am sick of that pain.
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I have been living with this now for 4 yrs and it doesnt get any better. I have been in the E.R. so many times and all they think you are doing is drug seeking and looking at you like your lower then dirt. mine has progressed into every night I have my hands go numb and they will cramp so bad they look deformed, I have noticed that when I start this cramping that my veins get3 to 4 times larger then before almost like they busted. had gallbladder removed, wasnt that, the pain in my side is so regular now that it just is there, I have become very pain tolerant, I can handle alot of pain now, there are times that it would feel better to have birth then go threw some of the pain. the cramping in my limbs are whats killing me now, at first was toes , hands and lower leg, now I have stepped up to a new one, my upper leg on the inside from knee to vagina, this was a first for me and had me in tears screaming. my liver levels are up, but every test says nothing is wrong with me, I hate going to hospitals or docters now so much that I dont go until on death's door, they dont believe me anyways. there are times that the pain will go over to the left side and that scares me so much, dont want pancreatitus (pancreatitis), no coming back from that, my urine is so strong smelling and the color is so dark, I dont have a bowel movement for 2 weeks at a time now and it is so painful and bloody now. there is something there that these oh so brainy docs are missing, it would help if they treated us instead of treating us like imbeciles. I'm sorry, I have had this so long that it has made me very hateful and untrusting. I do want to say thanks, I really thought I was alone, I cant talk about my pain to anyone bc they are tired of hearing it, and sometimes you really need to just say how it really feels.
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i have to have endoscopy thing and im very worried, i get all the pains and have had acid reflux and took ranitidine but my throat swelled up..not sure if its due to the drug or the stress of thinking i may have foodpipe cancer.. i went to the drs and said i thinki have gastro reflux desease or hernia and he dropped that C word in as well ..its been on my mind day and night now and i feal alot more worse than i did before i saw him as i went googling it.  
iv bought a ton of apples today to see if that helps as i here every where it suppose to
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I HAD MY GALLBLADDER REMOVED ALMOST TWENTY YEARS AGO. THAT IS WHEN MY PAIN STARTED. I HAVE HAD ALL TEST DONE,I HAD ERCP THREE TIMES EACH TIME MY PAIN GOT WORSE. I SUFERED FOR EIGHT YEARS  WITH SPHINCTER OF ODDI DYSFUNCTION.  I COULD ONLY EAT FAT FREE ICECREAM, CRACKERS AND MILK. AND ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO MY FAMILY DOCTOR PERSCRIBED DARVACET.  AND IT WORKED, I TOOK ONE OR TWO DARVACET ADAY AND A PROTON PUMP IHIBITOR-PRYOSEC  AND I FELT LIKE MY LIFE HAD BEEN SAVED. I COULD DRINK COFFEE EAT SPICY FOODS  I FELT LIKE A NORMAL PERSON AGAIN. IN NOVEMBER OF 2010   I FOUND OUT THAT DARVACET WAS BEEING PULLED FROM THE MARKET   , I ALLMOST CRIED.  MY PAIN CAME BACK WIHT A VENGENCE  , NOW I HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN, AND FROM WHAT I HAVE FOUND OUT  THEY STILL DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT WORKS VERY WELL FOR SOD.  I TRIED CALCIUM CHANNEL BLOCKERS NO HELP, ANTISPASMATICS DON'T WORK. I READ ON THE NET THAT THEY STARTED  CLINICAL TESTING LAST YEAR AND IT WOULD LAST ABOUT THREE TO FIVE YEARS. SO IT COULD BE SEVERAL MORE YEARS BEFORE THEY EVEN HAVE A DRUG OR ANYTHING TO HELP US.  I AM GOING BACK TO A GASTRO DOCTOR TO SEE IF MABEY I COULD BENIFIT FROM BOTOX  OR MABEY ANOTHER ERCP. I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE.  I WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED IF I  FIND ANYTHING .
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I to suffer from RUQ pain. I was hospitalized for back and abdominal pain 6 weeks ago and the docs said i had a blockage after doing ultrasounds, and abdominal xrays. Then after discussing with the about a previous kidney stone they sent me for catscans and changed my diagnosis as they found a kidney stone stuck in the ureter. However in the hospital after having the kidney stone taken care of I continued with severe pain. I explained to the docs and nurses that when I ate something was triggered. I immediately build up with gas under my rib cages and all around the front abdomin (abdomen) making me look 9 months pregnant. The pain radiates thru my back and to my spine. The pain gets so intense that it causes me to become nauseated and even vomit. The pain could not be controlled by any pain meds starting from morphine, to dilauted etc...Im not sure what to do anymore. I can be in a dead sleep and woken instantly by the burning and bloating pain. I do know the pain gets more severe if i lay down. I asked the docs for carafate thinking maybe i have an ulcer. I have been treating myself with the carafate and nothing has changed. Ive been back to the doctors and now they want to put me on prevacid. My problems only get worse because now i am pregnant so testing is limited. My biggest fears are small bowel obstruction as my uterus grows and pushes on the organs. My previous pregnancy i developed an internal hernia causing severe intestinal damage for me.. Where do i go from here?
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I have read about what ever else is going through and feel for all of you.  I have been dealing with this for over a year and half.  I have had CT scans (contrast and no contrast), xrays and thought I was going nuts as no one could figure out what was going on.  Thing just started to get worse and worse.  I finally decided to change doctors, thinking I might get some where.  He decided to redo my ct scan and said that I need to stay away from nuts, popcorn as I had pancreatitis and things were getting lodged which could cause some of the pain.   He finally decided to do more blood work which was of course all coming back good except for my triglycerides.  Well he decided to test me for Gluten intolerance and amazing enough I am.  This apparently can cause lot of issues with your stomach and your intestines with you have things that have gluten in them.  So now I am having to learn how to eat Gluten free which I will hopefully start tomorrow.   Well I did a little reading into my ct scan to what the doctors wrote.  Found on there Pleural Thickenign.  didnt know what this was but did alot of research and amazing what it says about abdominal pain, rib cage and chest pain, lumps can form etc.  So now we are doing another contrast CT scan in the next week for  mesothelioma and did a Echo gram last week.  I guess its a start somewhere.  I'm not sure if this will help any of you in a new direction or not but I felt that what I am having done to try to figure it out is a little different that what some people have talked about.  I hope this really helps someone or maybe a new direction in a blood test.
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wow there are so many.i just realized i have a mass tender lump upper rib cage.pinching nerve in spine, abdomonal pain glands tender,ear and jaw pain infection.drs. dont want to do anything because they dont want the liability.nausia.mostly flairs with stress and strain.heavy lifting.allso my ankles hurt and bones.but DRs say i seem to be ok.i dont feel ok.it is hard to do things.i have always felt a sickness within.the lump is just noticed.i am sure this has something to do with this,just never had time to notice it
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Been getting some good relief for my year long bout with undiagnosed Upper Right Quadrant Pain.
First thought to be gallstones then ulcer and now more muscular skeletal.  
Currently I am working on the later two possibilities.

For the Ulcer / Mucosal Lining help :
Supplements:
-Aloe King Aloe Vera -1 oz morning and evening
-New Chapter's  Supercritical Omega-7 (Sea Buckthorn) healing for all skin 2-4 per day
-Synergistics, Mucosa Max 1 at the beginning of each meal
-Grape Bitters 30 minutes before each meal
-Probiotic 30 minutes after each meal
-Wellness Resources GI Soother and Wellness Resources GI & Muscle Helper - taking these together once or twice a day I was also taking Wellness resources Sulfur Plus (MSM) supplement until I ran out.

-Clean Diet  -mostly vegetarian,with some Organic veggie juicing -potato and cabbage are supposed to really help ulcers but I mostly do parsley, celery and cucumber with a little carrot, beet and ginger.  

For the Muscular Skeletal help:
-The Egoscue Method  http://www.egoscue.com/  
Sessions and daily exercises designed for helping my alignment and support.
-Myofascial / Trigger Point massage therapy - massage sessions

Hope this helps someone else here.
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Gee, Phooey,
For the prior posts. I knew I was forgetting something important.

I have been eating gluten free even though I tested negative twice for Celiac disease, I think I may be sensitive to gluten. I just was not feeling well whenever I ate bread.

So I have been much better during the last month eating gluten free, taking supplements for ulcer/ mucosal lining and doing The Egoscue Method.

Hope this helps you all.
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I READ ON ANOTHER SOD SITE THAT THIS ENZYME CALLED ZENPEP MAY HELP SOME PEOPLE WITH SPHINCTER OF ODDI DYSFUNCTION. MY DOCTOR PERSCRIBED IT  AND I TAKE ONE 5000U CAPSULE ADAY AND I HAVE BEEN FEELING PRETY DARN GOOD.   THEY  HAVE A REBATE PROGRAM       GOOD LUCK ITS WORTH A TRY
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I had RUQ pain for several months. At first I was just having alot of reflux and some mid discomfort and I thought I had an ulcer. Then one night I had the most terrible pain. I could not lay down...only pace around and no amount of otc pain meds helped. The pain was right under my ribcage thru to under my rt. shoulder blade. It felt like someone was sticking a hot poker all the way thru. Sometimes I would feel like there was a tight band wrapping around my rib cage where the band of my bra runs. After the really bad attack, I went to the doctor and she ordered an U/S and it showed a large stone in the neck of my gallbladder. I hate to wait a few weeks to get the surgery consult and schedule the surgery. In the meantime I ate virtually no fat b/c I'm a nuclear med. tech.(I do Hida scans) and I knew fat causes the gallbladder to contract to release bile for digestion. When my surgery finally came I was in constant dull pain even on a no fat diet. The moment I woke up from my surgery, the pain was gone and I've had no problems since. My stone looked like a small lemon(slightly larger than a marble, but had that lemon shape). I'm only posting to share my experience as my symptoms and resolution may help others. My reflux also went away after the surgery. I only get reflux now after eating really spicey food which is normal for me but before being diagnosised I had it daily no matter what I ate. If it's gallbladder, I say get it out. I've never felt better and my surgeon was awesome. The only problem after surgery is you will get diarrhea after eating fatty foods for awhile while your body adjusts to having no storage vessel for the bile. My surgeon said my body would adjust and he was right. I can eat fatty foods now without any trouble. It took about 10 months for it to adjust. Still no major problem. I just wouldn't eat highly fatty food while out in public. Now it's fine.
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HI! I AM HAVING THIS PAIN ON BACK   OF MY HIPS AND ITS KILLING ME. I JUST KEEP ON TAKING PAIN RELEAVER.
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sorry forgot your sender name but am in constant pain, like a strain in my right rib cage area
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I am having this pain in my URQ, it feels like a muscle cramp under my rib cage. If I stretch a certain way, or sometimes right after a BM I feel it tense up, like a charlie horse, but under my rib cage instead of my leg. It's been on and off for about 6 months, and becoming more frequent. I haven't had my galbladder since 2009, and I haven't gone to the doctor because I don't have insurance. Does anyone know what it could be?
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I can't help either. I am 26 and I have the same pain on my right side right under my ribs too. I have been having this pain ever since I was a little girl. I just recently had my appendix removed and its gotten worse. I was told that the wall on my gallbladder is thicker than normal. What do I do?
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For anyone who is having RUQ pain but tests are coming back negative, be sure to rule out ACNES. Mangosucker and some others previously posted about this and it has given me relief and validation!

I am 28 years old and have a 3 year old and 1 year old. I have been struggling with RUQ pain since my second pregnancy but especially since April of this year.

I have been tested for every GI problem imaginable, thousands of dollars only for negative results. Meanwhile I have been feeling worse by the day, barely able to brush my kids' teeth. I have cancelled every hobby and I've stopped trying to even leave the house. I've lost tons of weight, I've been losing my hair and my mind! Each negarive test result felt like a slap in the face. How can nothing be showing up when I feel this sick?

My GI doctor told me I have a functional abdominal problem which seemed to be code for "it's in your head because we can't find a problem". He started me on Bentyl for IBS which has been helping a little bit but not enough. Plus, I haven't had any bowel changes so nothing was making sense.

I was desperately doing research online the other night and found this forum where ACNES was mentioned. My mom is a medical assistant for a physiatrist who specializes in muscle treatment and he agreed to try the trigger point injection this morning. It worked! When he hit that nerve it shot me through the roof! Now the injection site is sore but the rest of my body feels so much better.

My theory is that I injured the nerve during pregnancy and every time I ate, the food passing through would press on that nerve. The pain made me tense, radiated all over my stomach and into my back and gave me an aversion to food. It explains so much.

I still might have something like IBS along with it and I am afraid to hope that my problem is completely solved but my hope is that once that nerve has been calm for a little while, all the other symptoms will calm down as well. It's been 14 hours since the injection and I haven't had a stomach ache yet, which is the longest I have gone in months!

It was totally thinking outside the box. A pinched nerve in my abdominal wall had never crossed my mind and I don't even know if my GI doctor knows about this. I am sending copies of the ACNES report to my GI doctor, my PCP and my OBGYN.

My heart goes out to each of you. Please don't give up and know that you aren't alone.  

http://xnet.kp.org/permanentejournal/sum02/acnes.pdf
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I am researching Post Gallbladder Surgery complications to expose s dishonest con and save my heath - save my life. Longs story short, my body cannot function normally after gallbladder removed and systematically shut down while developing complications include URQ Pain. I found a cure which worked for me. Long Distance cycling daily for two months. End result - all heath issues backing  (flushed) out of my system in reverse order of occurrence, as detailed in a heath diary:

1. Breathing difficulty
2. Fatigue, heart muscle strain, breathing complications
3. Unable to pass foods through stomach
4. Feeling of food not swallowed - back of throat feeling.
5. bloating (massive and painful)
6. Pains under liver radiating towards the back
7. Constant stomach pains (IBS)
8. Reflux
9. Weight / fat build up - My waist size decreased from 41.5 to 37 inches relaxed
10. Stool returned to normal output - Solid

2010 - First day riding I was afraid of having a heart attack if I cycled up a hill hard. I became free of all symptoms (flushed out of my body) at 7 week mark, cycling on average 100 - to 180Km every day in temperatures up to 42 degrees. I crossed the French, Swiss an Italian Alps – some hill climbs were 25Km long.  My heath returned to normal as prior to gallbladder surgery in 2006, no pain or discomfort whatsoever except for an occasional sharp pain after drinking wine under on right side radiating towards the back (original complaint which lead to gallbladder surgery)

My fitness and wellbeing held up for 6 months after retuning to home.  I discovered at 3rd week back my fitness had started to drop dramatically so I then kicked off a weekly cycle training routine of up to 500 Km per week, 160- 180km rides in weekend. Living off credit cards I refused return to take a desk job to stay normal

Some reflux did kick in after the 3rd month.
I noticed breathing issues starting to kick in at month 4, but not substantial.
Placed Top 50 elite rider status in 9000 strong field - 160Km fun ride - nromal gain

Celiac Diet
I maintain a Celica diet as best as I can. However in Europe I ate every thing to give me energy, including lots French bread and milk after 8hour daily rides. During the “eat every thing diet”, my heath still improved

I did not return to employment or attempt to sit behind a desk for more than 4 hours at a time 2 times a week

Started a desk job seven months ago. This is what happened. All the horrible heath compactions systematically retuned in reverse order of leaving my body. After only 4 days working, bloating returned. I now have the pain on right side constant. Waist increased 4 inches in FAT. IBS is back, I cannot breath well, lost all fitness. cannot eat food. Gone from elite fitness to wanting to kill myself again. My body has shut down. Continual pain and discomfort, reflux, heart burn, throat pain. I put it down to this. Seated with legs 90 degrees from upper body blocks the food somehow from leaving the stomach easily and not enought bile or quality bile provied on demand to meet food intake. Not sure why.

I will quit work soon, credit cards full, ride for my life again in outback of Australia heat. This will be my third flush out after three heath shut downs over 5 years to save my life

Carrying out gallbladder surgery on elite endures sport and fitness heath freaks, reason only to remove a single gallstone instance, no attacks, no stomach pains except RUQ pain is pure sadistic evil murder. Obtaining consent by not disclosing potential health complications when directly ask, (Surgeons not believing in or disclosing possible PCS complication) and providing assurance patents can live a normal healthy life and resuming current fitness lifestyle is a lie, criminal fraud and breach of human rights. We need to stand up and call a spade a spade. Our lives destroyed for few pieces of silver – dishonest gain by dishonest surgeons needing to maintain $$M incomes. The medical community know full well what’s going on. Take a stand – Save a fellow human being from this torture

Good luck all. Hope my short term cure story helps someone develop a cure for all
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Thanks for sharing I will study Abdominal cutaneous nerve entrapment syndrome
(ACNES)
I think that could help many folks with their pain.

I have been helped by eating gluten free for over 3 months now.
Taking supplements for ulcer/ mucosal lining
Doing therapy sessions of body work called The Egoscue Method
Massage for myofascial release
I am going to also study the MELT Method as well
http://www.meltmethod.com/about

I have made many changes for my health, Vegetarian, Walk daily, Take in a serious study of Bible Lessons Daily, Get daily sunlight or take Vit D and other supplements, Veggie Juice, Breathing exercises, 1 hour daily of Egoscue exercises, green smoothies from the raw family and very clean organic local raw food diet, pure water, air purifiers  and Water therapy, Massage, weekly coffee enemas, castor oil packs and oilpulling (see oilpulling.com. ETC. I keep learning every day. Over the past two years I lost 100 lbs and kept 90 of it off for over 6 months. BTW changing to veggies, Juicing and not drinking black coffee (except on holidays and vacation) and of course the Grace of God has helped my kick m y sugar cravings. I still must be careful to avoid much sugar or too many fruits or  starchy carbs. But I do not feel restricted at all like I did with years of dieting.  While I am very careful about what I eat I also know as written in the scriptures, Man shall not live by bread alone but by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God!      Matthew 4:4 and John 14:6  is what real health is for. We all have a purpose and we are all only here in this life for a little while. I pray for the suffering of those in pain and I hope I can keep learning so I can share more. Thank  you again for your story and info on Abdominal cutaneous nerve entrapment syndrome, (ACNES).  
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Hi, fellow pain resistants, just kiddin. I'm 29 ,no gallbadder,essure ,overall healthy, ct scan of chest ok, kidney infection ok,x-ray of shoulder ok (having shoulder an neck pain)vaginal and abdominal ultrasound ok, the pain just started las month during my menstrual period , now it's 30 days after the horrible and annoying painits back and i'm in my m.period . I'm feeling the pain again. i was wondering, it maybe related? any comment ? please
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I am a 39 year old female(gallbladder removed 8 years ago) who started the same type of journey in January.  I had an ovarian cyst with increase RUQ pain. OBGYN sent me for CT scan, showed blocked bile duct(enlarged on one end, compacted on other). Started to have heartburn and difficulty eating (lost 45 pounds since 1st ERCP). Had 1st ERCP and had blockage removed including a micro carcinoid tumor also, pancrease was inflamed.
Continued to have pain, Dr did 2nd ERCP and I had a stent for 24 hours to drain the pancreas.  I had 3 days of no pain and then my stomach flipped(same feeling as driving over a hill and you get the flip).  Since then I have had pain in RUQ under 1st rib and goes around to my back. My pain is between a 3-5 all day and will increase to 8-9 with food(Still can't eat much as pain increases).
Went back to Doctor in May and was told it was due to over active nerves/maybe I should change my job.  
Had exploratory surgery a few weeks ago, OBGYN found endometriosis, Gastro doc(different doc) could not find anything. Am scheduled for Gastric emptying studying and have asked doctor for any other tests to determine what is wrong.  Due to allergies, I am unable to take med's other than ibuprofen. Any recommendations are greatly appreciated.
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I too have had this pain for almost 2 years...had all of the gallbladder test which came back healthy but they took it out anyways...the pain came back almost instantaneously after my surgery..then the MD thought I had pancreatic stones...I then had more scopes done..scopes into my pancreas. They discovered I had sphincter of ode disorder. Where your sphincter muscle is uncontrolled and also my duct is quite small...I had a stent put into my pancreas which subsided my pain for about 3 days... The drs then pretty much said there was nothing more they could do but start pain therapy.. I am now 23 weeks pregnant and my pain has doubled. I believe there is something more to my pain, bit now there is nothing they can do until I have my baby.. I always said there was more than just pain but the MD didn't have proof so he didn't agree... I am only 21 years old but I feel like my body is telling me something is wrong.. But I cannot do anything until after January and then I won't have time to worry about myself :/
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I just read your post from 2010.  I sat here and cried.  I have been "fighting" the same thing for almost 3 years now.  Gallbladder out, blood tests come back "normal", the gastro treats my "heartburn" (which I don't have) ... and I am the crazy one according to them.  My family tries to staying supportive (God Bless my mother) and my partner has his moments.  I am tired of the doctors caling ME crazy because THEY can't find anything.  I have never had anything like this .... maybe we should start a coup of the medical profession and make them understand we are not crazy ... WE HURT!!!!
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I have been suffering from URQ pain for the last 6 years.  I have had every test you can have.  My gall bladder had been removed.  I have been diagnosed with Celiac disease.  Gluten free diet for several of these 6 years.  The pain did not go away even with my diet.  I have had a cryo procedure done to freeze the nerve to the painful area.  This helped more than anything.  I had the cryo procedure done again, however this time it did not work as well and my pain is worse than ever. I am at my wits end.  My family doctor thinks that I an crazy and a drug seeker..(NOT TRUE!!!) My pain doctors only treat the pain.  My gastro doc says that my liver enzymes are good again and my Celiac is under control.  Where do I go from here?!?!?!?!?!  Even on pain meds I am in horrible pain!!!

After reading a lot of these posts I don't feel quite so crazy.  That there are others out there who are in the same boat.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I might go from here.  

I pray for all of you who are suffering right now with no answers.  I feel your pain!!! Literally!!!
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Hi every one I'm 32 and have had dull pain of and on for 3 years or more it right under my right rib it some time feel like I'm inflamed and a burning and some times like as if I have a balloon under there some times tender to touch and im gassy and it worse wen I lie down I get gassy had a load of bloods done all come back ok had ultra sound doin twice and no gallstones liver ok kidney ok all come back ok im on meds at min called  omeprazole 20mg thay halp but wen I come off them after four days and it's all back evey time I go back to docs he just looks at me like putting it on .so Im going for a camera down to my stomic soon . I'm get fed up of it it's ruing my life .iv noted that when I take antibiotics it gos ant my stools go back to hard in sted of all ways loose .
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I have to weigh in here because I have been experiencing this exact pain for since July 1, 2011. I can tell you that I think I may have narrowed my situation down to a couple of possibilities:
1. I increased my peanut and pistachio consumption prior ro having the pain -- am wondering if that might be a cause for the pain??
2. During May and June 2011, I was taking Advil PM to help me sleep approx 4-5 nights a week so that I could get some sleep -- am wondering if that might be the cause of the problem?
I had a chest X-Ray with contrast test -- turned out negative. I had an ultrasound of my liver, pancreas and gall bladder -- all negative.
I really think that Advil PM is the root cause of this pain -- which is about an inch to the right of the base of my sternum...in the soft spot just below the rib. I can't "find" the pain by pushing down on the area. It's a dull pain that comes and goes -- some days I don't have any pain and other days it aches on and off all day. It seems to increase the duration of aching when I'm sitting (like driving in a car). I am going back to the gastroenterologist in a couple of weeks to see if an endoscopy would be worthwhile. After much research, I think the cause of the pain is an ulcer even though the pain is on the far right side of where my stomach would be. Maybe a doudonal (sp?) ulcer?
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Same pain for 13 y, since the pregnancy of my daughter. A pain I thought related to it but persisted and every test negative. Can anyone recall the pain being triggered by pregnancy?
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I have had pain since March of 2011, and all tests were negative, finally had surgery and had my appendix and gallbladder out and was told the pathologist report that I have chronic cholecystitis with focal cholesterolosis with whatever that is. But months of testing and pain resulted in relieve. Surgeon said it never showed up inflammation etc. Only way to really tells was surgery. I feel for you guys because I know how many doctors I saw and all the care about is the money! My husband said I should be refunded for all those wrong tests! Wish you all luck!

Gallbladder can function weird with hormones!

But boy am I happy, somebody finally took a chance and helped me.

I am going to enjoy my happiness!
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I can't believe all the people who seem to suffer the same problems I have.
I started having pains in my upper right stomach three wks. ago.  My dr. (internest) immediately sent me for an upper and lower cat scan which showed no gallstones.  She referred me to a surgeon to have the gallbladder removed anyway.  The surgeon sent me for a sonagram (no stones) and days later I had a Hidascan (no stones).  By this time I had suffered stomach spasms for days similiar to labor pains. A prescription pf Dicyclomine helped  ease the spasms but the sore spot is still there. My entire side and ribs are so tender now and the worse part is when I sneeze, I feel my whole side will blow out. After two wks the surgeon and Dr. referred me to a gastrologist. What a waste of time!  He said I probably cracked a rib with the straining and spasms and scheduled me for a scope ((EGD) in two wks.  This really angered me since I feel two weeks is too long to expect someone in pain to wait so I walked out and will never go back to him.  My Dr. said she'd schedule an X-ray of the ribs/lungs but tha's been a wk ago and I haven't heard.  I have not been examined since my original visit with my Dr.  All tests were scheduled by phone with relults by phone also.  One thing I've learned from all this....................next time I suffer such pain as in the beginning I will go to the ER and not wait or count on some dr. to put me off with no results.  I' don't know what to believe but I've  had ovarian cancer in the past and have no appendix.  One test showed an enlarged liver. One ct showed a shrunken gallbladder with opacified valves. Obviously the Drs. haven't found a reason for my pain.  As the young folks say......whatever!!
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Not to scare anyone, just as a warning to those especially with a family history of cancer or exposure to toxins.  a dear friend of mine was diagnosed with a "pinched nerve" a year and a half before the real cause was discovered (as symptoms and pain never went away): non-hodgkins lymphoma.   He accepted the pinched nerve theory because he was a very fit person, always active.  Point being, don't settle for the "safe" and " happy" alternative if other options have not been ruled out.  It could save your life...
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Usually, these symptoms are cause by cholesterol stones in the liver and/or galbladder and they can be flush safetely out of the system by doing a Master Cleanse or a Liver Flush. It is important to make sure the stones are not mineral stones as they may get stuck in their way out. So, if you had your texts ran and there are no signs of stones but the symptoms persist, most likely they are cholesterl stones (they don't show in any test).
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Long history short, 2008 I started with the URQ pain, I felt I was dying then, I lost 50 lbs. I was very very scared. I think i was due to the ACCUTANE drug. None Dr, kwos what happen, one recomend remove my gallblader (gallbladder), I did not want, then I changed my diet to vegan, it helped but stil some pain, sometimes I feel relief when I use the vibriting machines, it's funny after some hours my stool smell very very bad, but after that I'm ok. for a few months, then same thing.
I wish the best to everyone of you, blessing, I feel your pain, when all poeple including your family thing you are just looking for attention.
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27 years old and I have been suffering with pain in my right back rib area for almost 3 months. Whenever I turn to the left i feel sharp pain. And if I do any kind of physical activity it hurts even more. It seems like as the day progresses the pain hurts more. Can't tell if it's a pinch nerve, pulled muscle or gallbladder problem. However, there's no other symptoms, just that. I would hate to get my gallbladder removed that may not be the problem. I do have 2 small polyps on my gallbladder. I get them monitored every year but so far they haven't changed in size. The only way they found them was when i was pregnant. My liver enzymes were elevated for some rwheneason so they decided to do an ultrasound of my liver and found the polyps instead. I've never had any kind of gallbladder symptoms before. The ortho gave me naproxin thinking it's muscle related and it worked great for a week, had to get off it cause it was killing my stomach and gave me heart palpitations. So next I'm going to make sure he gives me MRI. So now I'm wondering if it is my gallbladder did or can the naproxin keep gallbladder pain away? I made another appointment with the gastro to see what he says. I'm sure he's going to say to remove my gallbladder, but it seems a lot of people get it removed and still have that pain. Like I said I have no stomach problems. I haven't seen my primary doctor yet, maybe next step will be that too. Any suggestions?
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If I have gallbladder polyps and did a liver flush can they get stuck in the bile duct or will it possibly flush them out. There not stones so I wouldn't think they can get stuck but who knows.
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I am reading this and thinking wow people like me.  I have a lot of the same issues.  I had my gallbladder out years ago for pain under my right ribcage and needless to say it didn't stop the pain.  I have been diagnosed with several things IBS, Facet syndrome and oh yeah I have PTSD from years of childhood abuse which is what my doctors seem to want to blame this on.  The stress from that.  I keep telling them its a separate issue and it's horribly painful.  I am in constant pain on my right side back and front and sometimes it feels like my ribcage is on fire and the pain gets so bad that I roll around on the bed and just moan.  I've been through every test imaginable and every surgery it is nice to hear others.  Not to know that you are suffering too but I don't feel like I am just crazy anymore this must be a real condition.
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My pain also started when I became pregnant with my second, two years ago.  Prior to that, in 2008 I had my gall bladder removed 6 weeks after my first son was born.  I have had numerous tests, and no results.  I live on pain pills, and have gained weight/feel bloated ALL the time.  I am in search of another way!
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As I read over all the comments I am astonished at how many are in the same situation.  I have always had belly issues even as a child, lactose intolerance, fiber intolerance, sugar belly (I called it) when I eat sweets; had gallbladder out 20ish years ago.  1 1/2 years ago I began having severe bloating issues w/reflux, elevated liver enzymes.  Had 3 CT Scans, MRICP, Colonoscopy, Endoscopy - diagnosed with Gastritis with no direction and/or true diagnosis. Liver enzymes returned to normal. Frustrated I stopped going to the doctors - drank lots of water and focused on work. The bloating never went away - I am 5'6" and maintained a weight between 130 and 135 for the past 15 years. Now, with constant bloated belly (18 lbs heavier); no matter whether I eat or don't eat , elevated liver enzymes again, always feel full and constantly burping I went back to the GI. Gastric emptying test was done and liver biopsy which came back as Fatty Liver.  I am not a big drinker - occasional 2 or 3 drinks on the weekend.  When I called for biopsy results I was asked by the receptionist - are you obese; no - oh then you must be a heavy drinker; no, followed by several other questions to be told I have a follow up on 11/23.  I have spent the better part of everynight over the last month stuck to my laptop researching what could have possibly created a fatty liver.  One of the reasons I initally stopped going to the GI is that thru all the above test before the liver biopsy I never had a follow up appt as the receptist told me it wasn't necessary as there was no indication of a problem. I felt like I was crazy.  With that being said, I feel such relief to know that I am not alone and it's not in my head :-(  I hope that each of you, and myself, find the cause of our stomach issues.  I have to wonder if our food products are causing these problems for so many of us?!?!  I wish each of you good health and a resolution............
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Have any one out there been diagnos with H plyori?
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Hi, I have the same pain in my right side for 3 months by now.,CT normal... my doc offered to remove my GB, because of  an abnormal gallbladder ejection fraction has a value 88%. I heard it's cosidered as abnormal if it's low than 40%. Does anyone has it's higher than 80%, like me? and what it is actually means if its higher? I also have diabetis. Thanks.
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Holly cow, there are a lot of people who suffer from this. I want to hear from the first responders to this original thread as we haven't heard back from them on what they have found out. I've read many post on here that date back to 1999 relating to this exact same issue, and those posters have not returned either.....anyways,  

I have the same thing! I have this dull ache that wraps around from the back to the front and down to my groin. Stretching it makes it worse. Something swells in my back (lower ribcage) and I can only notice it when seated against something and applying pressure. My last few ribs are tender in the back (like someone has punched me) and are tender all the way to the ends. Standing or sitting for to long aggravates it. My back is sore just on the right side, closest to the the vertebra (valley of sorts) in the middle. I can touch right there and it is sore, but it's only 2", 3" in length. I can put my thumb right on the tender spot. This seems to radiate out from there to my right flank and wraps around to the front.
My other thought was a Kidney infection/disease or UTI, but these shouldn't last this long + I'm a male. I've had this for nearly 12yrs, off and on. Stress brings this on fast. It will last anywhere from 3wks to 6wks. It will eventually subside, but will return. I've had 4 occurrences this year alone, and suffering from the forth as I write. I have been to the Doctor, but nothing major has been found.

1.) Cat-Scan with & W/O contrast.
2.) Abdominal X Ray / Lower thorax spinal X-Ray
3.) Urine test
4.) Blood
5.) Ultrasound

Urine had high protein (20) 9 being the limit

Some blood in urine (<2.0) is what it said

Cat-Scan showed several small cysts no bigger the 5mm in my right kidney.

Other then that, nothing. Eating does not effect it, other then masking it with a full stomach. I do sit allot at the computer (work & home). I bike anywhere form 5-20 miles a week, this does not effect it. I feel good on the bike. My right testicle is sore.
This seems to high for appendicitis, and only really hurts in that location if I stretch a certain way, other then that it aches. I can cough, laugh, sneeze, nothing, no pain, just a constant dull ache and pressure. My doctor thinks I have a pinched nerve in the back and she may be right. Aleve helps some, but very little, and Flexeril doesn't seem to do anything. If I lift my right leg (putting on a sock) I feel pressure just above bladder. I have read that people have this same thing, but on the "left" side.

I am trying a gluten free diet (3 days so far) and nothing.
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Where to start...15 years ago I started having gall bladder attacks. 5 years ago they finally removed my gall bladder.For the last three months consistently I have had what feels like a gall bladder attack(before it was intermittent). I can't eat or drink anything without nausea and pain. My last CT with contrast (two weeks) showed, 100's cyst on my ovaries and several kidney stones. I have been having occasional chest pains. I have a fatty liver, which causes yellowing of the eyes and skin, along with hives if I take anything that is known to possibly affect the liver(Tylenol). I have the tingling and numbness in the fingers, primarily the ones in the middle up to about the second knuckle. If I sit on the side of the tub and lean over to the right to turn the water on I have a pain that is overwhelming, but it feels as if there is a foreign object that gets caught on something. I am having a problem breathing and fatigue. Three days of not going to the bathroom but not a feeling of constipation but on the 4th day I suffer from loose, greasy, watery, yellow or green floating stools several times a day.My last xray showed completely full of bowel, but I felt no desire for elimination. I can no longer lay on my right side.My menstruation has gone from light to are you kidding me? I have developed so many allergies over the last two years.  My lab test are showing (blood) low potassium, low sodium (urine) perfectly normal, I am not even showing sugar in my urine and I am diabetic.Before the last three months I had the bloating but since this last episode has started I do not have any bloating and have only lost 8 lbs. My current list of diagnosis are ... Hypothyroidism, PCO's, Diabetes, hyperlipidemia, kidney stones, dermatographial, herniated disc, spinal stenosis and fatty liver.. Current allergies, anything with yellow dye, penicillin, rocephin  and morphine.  Does this sound familiar to anyone?
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I have similar pain had ultra sound but I had bilirubin in my urine.  Ultra sound came out normal.  Re tested my urine and it was normal the second time.  I heard that there is no reason to ever have bilirubin in my urine unless I had a problem with my liver.  My hair also falls out like crazy, Dr said cause I occasionally pull my hair back.  I also have joint pain. Any suggestions Dr makes me feel like I am crazy.
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correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there sure signs that it's gallbladder related?

1.)when you eat a high fat meal (could even be low fat) that within an hour or two, you experience sharp jolting pain around the sternum/mid chest?

2.) stool color change (clay/yellow colored)

3.) Nausea/vomiting after meal

4.) Diarrhea/Constipation

5.) Dark colored urine

I would say to you if any of these symptoms match together w/ # 1, then more then likely you have a Gallbladder/Liver/Panaceas/bile duct issue. As for the rest of us who have this annoying ache on the right side, front/back, we need to continue to figure out what this is. There are many people here that have this ache and don't even have their Gallbladder.
As for me, I'm male, 39yr..154lbs, healthy/active but do sit at a computer longer then I should over the course of the day.

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Please, if you have access to a Naturopathic physician or Acupuncturist try them. Prilosec and other acid blockers really deal a blow to overall health and mess with digestion. There are healthier ways to address this.
I am now off of Prilosec (for gerd) have been able to get rid of heartburn and almost all pain with allergy testing (for foods) a change in diet and acupuncture.
I feel so much better. Another resource would be any of Dr. Mark Hymans books. Good luck to all.
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Please, if you have access to a Naturopathic physician or Acupuncturist try them. Prilosec and other acid blockers really deal a blow to overall health and mess with digestion. There are healthier ways to address this.
I am now off of Prilosec (for gerd) have been able to get rid of heartburn and almost all pain with allergy testing (for foods) a change in diet and acupuncture.
I feel so much better. Another resource would be any of Dr. Mark Hymans books. Good luck to all.
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I was having URQ pain on and off since January 2010 and discovered that my pain was caused by taking Airborne/EmergenC!!!!

Details:  I was troubled like everyone else because I couldn't figure out what it was.  Since I have small kids I have been getting sick very often and have been taking Airborne and then switched to the emergenC packets to help prevent/lessen the cold symptoms. One day I sneezed many times as I woke up.  I said to myself "Oh no, I don't want to get sick, so let me take the EmergenC packet right away". I hadn't eaten anything and stepped into the shower.  Right as I stepped out, I had the URQ pain. The pain slowly subsided that week and since then I have not taken EmergenC nor Airborne and the pain is GONE!  Whew!  I kept thinking it was something serious caused possibly by work stress!!!  Please consider this as a possibility if you are taking any cold preventative medicines!
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I too have this URQ stomach pain, or rather dull discomfort, just under the rib cage. It's been with me for over 4 months now. Started just suddenly. When I'm walking around, I feel it the most and the only comfort I can get is either to put pressure against this point or actually pinch it and pull it out a bit. I do get full relief when lying down and sleeping.

Awaiting for my endoscopy, but have done H. pylori  test, ultrasound, bloodworks, urine, stool tests - all came back 'normal'. Well, aside from my test results, I don't feel 'normal'. The GI specialist said this might be a 'functional pain' or in other words, they don't know what it is.

I'm a 40 year old guy, otherwise healthy. I do have my one beer at night, but nothing more. I don't smoke and do get some exercise during the week.

I started to watch what I eat and reduce those things that might have a negative impact on my pain...all to no avail.

Urggh...frustrated and still in pain...
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I'm 47 female and have had URQ off and on for 4 years , doc said he was sure it was my gullbladder (gallbladder) , had an ultrasound and a test not sure what its called , they gave me a shot to simulate eatting a fatty meal then did a scan this took an hr. under the scanner . the test cam back normal , I have had IBS issues mainly constapation . Ithis ast few weeks have been a nightmare , I have been to my docs and have had xrays . the fisrt visit she said my stomic was full , no kidding! she gave me stool softeners and said to go home take them and I should be ok in a few days . that didnt help so I went back 4days later . she said we needed to pull out the big guns and had me drink a bottle of magnesiam sulfate  . I did ths 2 times . this has not helped at all , could I have some sort of colon block or could this be a gullbladder (gallbladder) issue  or Liver ? not sure what to do next I work and have already taken time off because of  pain and going to the Dr. I am on so much medication its rediculas  , I just want it to stop !!!!  
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I've been having pain under my right front ribs for about two months, but not quite the same as most posters.  Mine started out as a horrible backache....felt like a knife/icepick jabbed in my back right ribs....it was constant where I couldn't sleep at all.  Sometimes the pain was so bad, I'd just bawl my eyes out.  I still went to work everyday but I was miserable.  The back pain finally went away after about 6 weeks, but I noticed the right side of my ribs hurt, like when you run too hard and get a side ache; and I have this pain under my ribs in front...it feels like something is in there, and sometimes feels like something is "caught".  By something I don't mean anything I can actually feel when touching the area(s)....I don't feel any lumps or anything.  I get sudden stabbing and stinging pains in the same spot that makes me lurch forward until they subside in a few seconds.  Sometimes it burns like a sunburn. Several spots are very tender to the touch.  It always feels like there's something tight across my front that runs under one breast to the other.. I don't have typical cramping, no nausea....it's up high on the right and center of sternum and moves to the right on my side like something is caught under my ribs.  After googling my symptoms for a few weeks, I'm finding that people with similar or near-similar symptoms are getting no answers from their doctors, so I'm hesitant to go through a battery of tests only to get misdiagnosed or be told they don't know what's wrong. I haven't really found anyone with my identical symptoms.  I can live with the pain if I just know it isn't anything like a tumor that might be growing as I delay getting medical attention.
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my symptoms are all the same, and I just assumed that the pain was from my clips, but the pain has worsened over the years and is constant, I have degenerative disk, and was at one time, diagnosed with IBS, but that has tapered off quite a but. once in a while I still have an attack.  The pain now is pretty intense and constant. Sometimes it even feels like the ribs themselves are hurt from the inside, but then it feels like tender liver as well. What's bothering me, is that I have had gross chronic Hemoturia for a year, first thought to be injury related, then my Dr. thought kidney stones. I have had xrays for the back problems, recently an MRI (awaiting results) and a CT coming up this week. I'm wondering if the URQ symptoms would have anything to do with the mystery bleeding. Shell
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I have had the same symptons for years although mine is a pressure on the upper right side that feels like it tightens  when I am under stress. It is very uncomfortable. Sometimes if feels like a brick is in my side. The doctors always call it pain but I keep telling them it very rarely hurts its just this constant pressure. When this all started, my thyroid was out of wack and I was diagnosed with Graves disease.  Also when this first started I was very sick on my stomach always nauseated. That lasted about a year.  I had radio active iodine to kill off the thyroid and now my thryroid is under control. I even had my gallbladder out but the pressure is still there. I had a test that said my gallbladder was near non functional. Like 1 point less and it would be considered non functional. I can't remember what it was exactly, I think maybe 34. Its been like 3 years ago. I had test after test after test and they never gave me a reason for the pressure. They tested my liver, I had two colonoscopies. The first one they did find polyps. Then had to have one a year later which came up good. I've been considering trying again and going to a different set of doctors but I hate getting on that marry-go-round again but feel like I shouldn't keep letting this go on.  This is so frustrating.
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I am having the same right upper quad pain as well. it's been about a years and a half that I have had it. It feels like SOMETHING is there. It comes and goes and I can't really pinpoint it to any food or anything.

I eat healthy, no fried or greasy foods and I also drink tons of water daily and still, it will not go away. I finally went to ER last night, and left with NO answers. They even did an ultrasound, and didnt see anything. The doc thought it "might" be stones caught in my bile duct. (had gallbladder removed many years ago) but that was fine.

I am so frustrated and the dr told me to "go back on" the prilosec I stopped taking because I did not need it. And I have to go (back) to a gastroenterologist in two weeks.

When in the ER I told the dr's that you could actually feel where it was when I sat up.. And not ONE of them sat me up, they all told me to lie down!!

Doctors, for the most part s*ck. They NEVER listen. I am tired of this. I just want to be pain free.
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hi i'm a 42 year old male and have had pain for about 3 months it is on my right side about 2 inchs from the middle of my rib cage if i push it hurts or it seems to be a dull pain most of the day i find it feels better after a long weekend or in the morning before i do any work. but by the end of the day it's preety sore i have had ultrasound , hida scan and have seen a gi doctor both my own doctor and my gi doctor told me it's  a pull and could take 6 months to heal. i don't know if i am crazy  or not but i think it's more then that i know my body and it does not feel like a pull what should i do  thank all
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A possible solution for some:  
Short history:  57 yr old female w/ URQ pain and back pain for 3 years.  2 CT scans, 2 colonoscopy's, abd ultrasound, pelvic u/s, MRI of back etc. etc. All normal.  
WHAT I HAVE FINALLY DISCOVERED IS THAT I HAVE A VITAMIN D DEFICIENCY AND THAT CAUSES BOTH BONE PAIN (including of lower back) AND THE RISE IN YOUR PTH (PARATHYROID HORMONE) DUE TO LOW VIT D CAUSES ABDOMINAL PAIN.  
My abdominal pain started in a very stressful job 3 years ago and I thought after I quit the job it would go away.  Was told it was probably IBS and to eat yogurt.  The pain wavered a bit - sometimes worse than others, probably depending on how much vit d and calcium I was getting in my diet, but was still there for the last 2.5 years.  During that time I had CT scan, colonoscopy and abdominal ultrasound.  All normal.   Then, this summer when I took dairy out of my diet completely, hit me like a ton of bricks.  I  started having some severe other symptoms like:  feeling very old and depressed; waking in the middle of the night and couldn't go back to sleep (stll struggling w/ this a bit), black tarry stools, nausea and loss of appetite, fatigue, change in my water requirements and urination, hair falling out by the hands full.  This all prompted a lot of research and trips to specialists.  Even though the endocrinologist suggested I might have a vitD deficiency, when he saw my level was around 35, he didn't prescribe anything.  If you haven't already gone down this path -- go to www.parathyroid.com.  It is the best resource on the internet, bar none on this issue.  Vanderbilt Medical Center in Nashville has a website which lists 'constant pain in the side or back' as a symptom of parathyroid cancer.  Don't be alarmed though, apparently you have a better chance of getting struck by lightening than having PT (parathyroid) cancer.  I was told it is extremely extremely rare.  BUT, vit D deficiency and hyperparathyroidism exhibit the same symptoms.  These chemical work in tandem kind of --  if your VitD is low, your parathyroid will kick in and start pumping out extra pth (parathyroid hormone) in order to keep your blood calcium normal.  But pth, over a long time, can be very hard on the body apparently.  I talked to the nurse at the Norman Parathyroid Clinic in Tampa Florida today, gave her my calcium, vitD and parathyroid hormone levels (which I only got after I insisted my doctor run them) and she said it was pretty clear I had secondary hyperparathyroidism.  
I'm not saying this is the answer to all - but I would be a thousand dollars that it is the answer to quite a few.  Turn out Vit D deficiency is nearly epidemic -- both nationally and internationally.  Go to Amazon.com and look up and read about books on vitD and then order a couple.  Some docs are trying to get the word out there but it is very slow coming and so far at least, the 4 specialists (endocrinologist, gastroenterologist, internist and spine specialist) that I have been to are completely ignorant of this problem.  Even the endocrinologist sent me home w/ no prescription or anything because my 'vit d level' was within the range that he uses as 'normal'.  The nurse from the Norman Parathyroid Institute told me today that most people need a vit D in the 40's at a minimum to feel good.  Mine was 35...but since I have been taking vitD + calcium supplements the abdominal pain, AND the lower back pain (aching) has improved though not yet completely abated. It's been 3-4 weeks.  Also, if you are overweight, and have a BMI of > 30, you are at much greater risk for this problem.  Apparently, body fat inhibits the absorption of vitD/Calcium and it frequently becomes a problem for post menopausal women...esp if they are obese.  But, this isn't an overnight fix.  Apparently it takes several weeks for your body to get your VitD levels back up.  You can get it through sunlight or supplements but you should do some research on this subject.  
The IMPORTANT POINT IS THAT IT IS A CAUSE OF UPPER RIGHT QUADRANT ABDOMINAL PAIN AND BACK PAIN. SO, FOR ALL OF US LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION IN OUR ABDOMEN SOMEWHERE, IT MAY NOT BE THERE AT ALL.  IT COULD BE YOUR PARATHYROID REACTING TO LOW VIT D LEVELS.   AT LEAST THAT IS THE CASE IN MY SITUATION.  HAVING TAKEN VITD SUPPLEMENTS AND CALCIUM FOR 3-4 WEEKS NOW MY PAIN HAS IMPROVED SO THAT I DON'T FEEL IT MUCH DURING THE DAY BUT STILL FEEL IT AT NIGHT SOMETIMES.  And, in my readings, I found that pth is highest around 2am so maybe that is the reason I feel it more at night.  
I hope this helps some folks.  It may take a while to ferret out but get your doctor to run calcium, vitD and pth and see what the levels are.  Then don't just automatically believe that if they say they are in the 'normal' range, do some reading on the www.parathyroid.com site and other resources about VitD deficiencies.  Apparently hyperparathyroidism is misdiagnosed ALL THE TIME also.  See site referenced above.
One other thing:  I did read somewhere that tagamet (the over the counter antacid) would somewhat counter pth.  So, I'm going to try that tonight and see if I can get through the night without waking and having any side/abdominal pain from parathyroid hormone.  Every week it seems to be getting better.  I haven't noticed any abdominal pain all day today and I'm feeling much better during the day too!  
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I to have some of the same problems . I am 23 years old and 97 pounds . I have been having stomach problems for the last five years . They first tried to tell me there was something wrong with my ovaries . I had exploratory surety about two years ago on them and nothing was found . I have been living with diarrhea all this time . This past march I ended up in the ER in terrible pain after having test done I was told that I had Gallstones and need my gallbladder removed . I had it removed in April and since then I am still having horrible pain under the sternum but even worse then before and I can't find a pattern of when I get it . I don't drink a lot but one time it did happen after drinking and I ended up in the hospital for three days but all the other times it happened I was not drinking . I have had barreum cat scans , mri's , upper gi scopes , and numerous X-rays . My blood work came back off once with my liver and pancreas but then went right back to normal
. When I get the pain it comes fast I got very hot dizzy nauseas and feel like I'm going to pass out what can this be someone please help my heart goes out to others who are going through all this it's awful !!
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Thanks for this new slant on things.
This may very well help folks here.

I am not very low on D at 56.7 or Calcium at 9.7 but I would like to see my D level at 80 to 100.

I am insulin resistant and hypothyroid and regarding my URQ pain I began over a year ago with docs thinking gallstones, then ulcers, then myofascial, now small hernia near my stomach. Still not really sure. I am still taking a slew of Ulcer/ and mucosal lining supplements. I think I have a acid / alkaline issue- for along time I thought I had too much acid and now I am not so sure since taking 1 Tbls of Organic unfiltered Apple Cider Vinegar in 8 oz of water immediately stopped my worst pain recently. Easy enough to try when someone is in pain. Daily I will be trying 2 teaspoons of ACV  in 8 oz of water and see what that results. I also went Gluten free and began Egoscue Method of body work. Massage and Chiropractic sessions have also helped me.   I am looking for wisdom about the reason but also the meaning and purpose of my pain. My trust is in God via the Lord Jesus Christ and his Word. I pray you prosper and that it becomes well with your body and your soul. Again, thank you for sharing.
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By way of update:
While I was thinking I have an ulcer (still not sure if I do or do not)...
I was doing a boat load of different things to help heal my Upper Right Quadrant  pain…
DGL-Deglycyrrhizinated-Licorice
MSM (sulfur)
A Wellness Resources product called GI Soother which has
Protein 3.5 g, Immunoglobulins 300mg, and Lactoferrin 45 mg
http://www.wellnessresources.com/products/gi_soother.php
Broad Spectrum Probiotic
Aloe Vera
L-Glutamine
Mucosa Max at https://www.ultralifeinc.com/Detail.asp?P=9062
Mastic Gum
Standard Process  product called A-F Betafood
Thorne Multi Vitamin
Wellness Resources Pine Nut Oil gel caps
Grape Bitters
Sea Buck Thorn (juice and capsules)
Cabbage and potato Juice
Manuka Honey Bio Active 10+
Egoscue Method Body Work for whole body alignment
Gluten Free Diet – mostly vegetarian diet

I really thought that Egoscue and Gluten free diet were the things that helped me the most so I as my supplements ran out I did not refill them.
I was pain free for about 2 months and then had a dental emergency with a cracked crown and an amalgam tattoo and failing root canal. Took Vicodin which I believe reactivated my Ulcer like URQ pain.  And I took Amoxicillin to prepare for the tooth extraction of the failing root canal. My upper right quadrant pain returned with a vengeance.  I began refilling and taking most all the above remedies.

My new doctor, Dr. Zachary Bush in Scottsville, VA thinks my pain is coming from a small hernia which because of it’s location being close to the stomach may have been causing an ulcer or ulcer like symptoms. He suggested an abdominal binder and for me to strengthen my abdominal core to support the area.  I thought great this makes sense. Got the abdominal binder and it made me feel worse.
I was recently in extreme pain and up in the early AM and decided to try a remedy that helped me when I thought my problem was gallstones.  Phyllis A. Bach in the fifth edition of Prescriptions for Nutritional Healing had suggested taking
1 tablespoon of Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) with apple juice for relief from gallstone pain.
But this time I looked up peptic ulcer and found that it suggested a
Stomach Acid Self-Test using ACV on page 634
I tried 1 tablespoon of ACV in 1/4 c of water and I was immediately better.
The paragraph on this explained that that may be an indication that I have too little stomach acid.
Dr. Bush is an MD with an interest in endocrinology who leans toward Vegan and treating with food.
He is now suggesting I take 1 tlbs of ACV two to three times a day in between meals.
I would like to understand the thinking behind this but for now will just try it and see if it works.

I am still pretty much Vegetarian but perhaps my body is trying to adjust my diet and I have not been listening.

I have so many of these things to sort out and also strongly believe that my dental work is an issue!

Going to keep up the Egoscue Method Exercises, Gluten free diet, and try and get in some massage and chiropractic sessions.

Perhaps I am learning things that might help someone else sometime - I sure hope so.

Hope you have been well.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Faith, Hope, Love and Prayers!
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My doc is just thinking I have a small hernia near my stomach.
Perhaps you might ask your doctor about that possibility. It has been over a year and a new doctor I am seeing just suggested that to me. He wanted me to wear an abdominal binder (brace) and strengthen my core. So far the binder has caused me to feel worse but I am proceeding to Egoscue Method to strengthen my core.
Hope you get help soon.  
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omg i have been suffering this pain for 3 years now and my doctor does not know what it is, i am so frustrated and in pain... it started as a pain on my right side under my ribcage and sometimes round my back... it startd as a dull ache but has really intensified.. sometimes i hav trouble breathing, i am goin out of my mind! i have an ultrasound in the morning and i dont know how to explain it 2 them.... i am relieved to have found that i am not the only one, i have been so scared thinking dat i hav cancer on my liver or something..... this pain and confusion is taking over my life....
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Nessie --  if they don't find anything, ask to have your VitD/Calcium and pth checked.  I have also struggled for 3 years.  Have had 2 CT scans, 2 abdominal ultrasounds, a pelvic ultrasound and an MRI on my back.  Had the same right abdominal pain that sometimes feels like it's in the front and sometimes feels like it's in my kidney area.  They never found anything in any of my tests.  They may look at you weird with the request for the above blood work but it could be something entirely outside your abdomen.  The pain was my predominant symptom until this summer when it morphed into other symptoms like nausea, sometimes bad diarhea (diarrhea), ,insomnia, feeling hot - esp at night, and more.  I finally found that many of my symptoms had to do with elevated parathyroid hormone which kicks in if your Vitamin D goes too low.  Vit D deficiency is apparently a worldwide epidemic....but more especially among women my age (57).  But...hopefully the ultrasound will tell you something and you won't have to go down this long road of no answers like many on this site.  Good Luck!!
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Hi

I am 27 yrs old,basically very scared by nature. So i am very scared and confused now. Please help me.
I was having severe back pain 7 months ago. The doctor took a MRI scan and told that my lower back disc is week and asked me to go for physiotherapy. Then i felt better. After 2 months i had severe pain around my testicles and had some irritation during urination. my urine test said that i have UTI.I had this pain for few months, then suddenly my blood pressure increased and it was hitting around140-160/80-100 for about 2 months. For UTI, the doc gave me antibiotic to take 4 times a day. The tablet created uncomfortable pain in my stomach. Then after few days of taking tablets, i had pain in the center of the chest and below the left ribs. i am not sure is this because of the tablet or increase in BP.
I did a complete health check up including ECG and chest X-Ray. Everything was normal. Regarding pressure, it was fluctuation some time it is 130/80 and some times 150/90. Regarding my pain in the centre of the chest, the doctor gave me gasteric tablets but nothing helped me. I started feeling the pain around the chest,in shoulder blades and rarely in the arms. Then i did endoscopy and doctor told me that i have h.pyroli bacteria infection. Then i took antibiotics. I felt better. Mostly the pain is in the left upper abdomen. nowadays i can feel the pain around the chest. I did urea breathe test to check for bacteria and there is no bacteria now but still i feel the pain in left upper abdomen which also radiates around my chest. The doctor said that the gastric is still there which is giving this pain. But the pain is continuous. I dont feel the pain only when i lie down flat. I also dont have any prblm while sleeping. I dont have any urinary issue but i do have pains in the right and left lower abdomen may b near the kidney. I have also checked my kidney and everything is normal.whenever i control my urine passing and put one leg over the other while sitting, i can feel little discomfort around the kidney area.

So I would like to know, what is my exact problem.There is no history of BP,sugar or heart disease in my family. I am more worried about my chest pain and the pressure.I am worried if this can be any heart related problem. Do i need to do any other test for heart to check if it is related to the chest or something.
And i still have blood pressure fluctuation. What could be the reason for that. The doctors says nothing but i have this trouble everyday.

Thanks and Regards
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Hi

I am 27 yrs old,basically very scared by nature. So i am very scared and confused now. Please help me.
I was having severe back pain 7 months ago. The doctor took a MRI scan and told that my lower back disc is week and asked me to go for physiotherapy. Then i felt better. After 2 months i had severe pain around my testicles and had some irritation during urination. my urine test said that i have UTI.I had this pain for few months, then suddenly my blood pressure increased and it was hitting around140-160/80-100 for about 2 months. For UTI, the doc gave me antibiotic to take 4 times a day. The tablet created uncomfortable pain in my stomach. Then after few days of taking tablets, i had pain in the center of the chest and below the left ribs. i am not sure is this because of the tablet or increase in BP.
I did a complete health check up including ECG and chest X-Ray. Everything was normal. Regarding pressure, it was fluctuation some time it is 130/80 and some times 150/90. Regarding my pain in the centre of the chest, the doctor gave me gasteric tablets but nothing helped me. I started feeling the pain around the chest,in shoulder blades and rarely in the arms. Then i did endoscopy and doctor told me that i have h.pyroli bacteria infection. Then i took antibiotics. I felt better. Mostly the pain is in the left upper abdomen. nowadays i can feel the pain around the chest. I did urea breathe test to check for bacteria and there is no bacteria now but still i feel the pain in left upper abdomen which also radiates around my chest. The doctor said that the gastric is still there which is giving this pain. But the pain is continuous. I dont feel the pain only when i lie down flat. I also dont have any prblm while sleeping. I dont have any urinary issue but i do have pains in the right and left lower abdomen may b near the kidney. I have also checked my kidney and everything is normal.whenever i control my urine passing and put one leg over the other while sitting, i can feel little discomfort around the kidney area.

So I would like to know, what is my exact problem.There is no history of BP,sugar or heart disease in my family. I am more worried about my chest pain and the pressure.I am worried if this can be any heart related problem. Do i need to do any other test for heart to check if it is related to the chest or something.
And i still have blood pressure fluctuation. What could be the reason for that. The doctors says nothing but i have this trouble everyday.

Thanks and Regards
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To everyone battling undiagnosed abdominal pain, MAKE them check for adhesions, especially if you've had any kind of surgery. I have been in pain that get's higher than a  10 on a 1-10 scale, have been on pain pills I;d rather not be one, looked into nutritional (food & supplements), alternatives to Western Medicine and every intrusive diagnostic procedure which I swear has made things worse.
    Ultimately the Physical therapy (Visceral Mobilization) has been the one thing that has helped, has given any answers.... but essentially, the long and the short of it is that adhesions (scar tissue) has sort of spider-webbed between my internal organs and between the emergency hysterectomy from hemorrhaging uncontrollably and nearly dying 3 times and the pulling, stretching and shortening of the ligaments that hold everything in, and up, where it's all supposed to be.
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I'm in the same boat,
Its december and since february I've been feeling this pain that comes and goes but mostly stays. I've gone to 3 different doctors, enzymes are normal, xrays came normal and the ultrasound showed no gallstones but a fatty liver. One doctor told me I worry too much I shouldn't cause everything came out normal. But I can't ignore the pain that wakes me up in the middle of the night! I'm not at peace but worried for not finding a solution and might be getting worse with time. What can I do?
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i have pain right in middle of gut an to the left of the rib cage under neath also have strange bowel movements sometimes feeling sick sometimes throwing up have gained a lot of weight which im not happy about i also suffer with heart burn pretty badly have had endoscopy colonstompy and the helipro antibiotics to clear an ulcer still im in pain and fed up with my stomach bloating so bad
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Im 21 and I have pain in the upper right part of my abdomen under the ribs and near it and also pain in the lower right of my abdomen. Anyone know what this could be?
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I am 54 and for last year iv been having really bad apin under my rib Right side flank pain under my rib...The pain is getting more and more frequent.
I had my galblader out may years ago so i know its not that...I have had xrays..ultrasounds...MRI bloody test and im told nothing is showing up in any other then...This is really depresing me and worring my Mother passed away with Non hodgikins lymphoma could this be what iv got as i wastold it can fun in family i do feel some lumps in my stomack as well only small
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Sam

Thank you for your information. I really thought it was helpfull. I really needed to know that I was not crazy. Sometimes these doctors make you feel like you are just going to see them for nothing. I know my body! I have this pain on the right side in between my ribs. I just got a CT scan and they are going to taking my G Bladder and found cysts on my liver. The thing is I have been having these cysts showing up everywhere in the last year. I have had 3 removed from my gums, 1 from my leg, 1 from my eye lid, and now they found 2 on my liver and want to take my G Bladder. No one can tell me whats wrong. These cysts have got to be forming for a reason. This is painful and costly to have them removed! Help
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Just been enjoying about 1 month of not being in pain.

Why? Not totally sure.

I took a break for 2 months about 3 months ago as well but it came back with some serious dental work.

Some things that have helped me:
-Daily study of the Word of God 'claiming' memorizing and meditating on scriptures
-1 tablespoon of either lemon, apple cider vinegar or balsamic vinegar (these all work pretty much the same when I had my worst pain)
-Going gluten free (really eating less of any processed foods!!!- Note that it took me 6 months to get gluten out of my system.)
-The Egoscue Method (I do a daily routine of easy stretching exercises) as well as daily walks
-1 Teas of Baking Soda in Water

Except for the power of the Word of God, I have no idea how the other things have helped because I have never gotten a firm diagnosis but I hope and pray that some of these helps will help others who are suffering.
  
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I am experiencing the same thing you are. Have had every test I can think of and all the blood work too ! I have had my pain for 2 months now. Some days are worse than others. Pain meds can help control it if I dont over do it but I have a life to live for crying out loud. I go see a surgeon on the 25th. If by some miracle he finds out what it is , I will be more than happy to let you know !
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I used to get this pain, only a few inches lower, after eating anything with hamburger.  I have been vegan for about 6 months now, and have not experienced it, until the last couple of nights, when I had consumed some cheese with pasta.  It's direct beneath mylowest right rib and feels like something is tender with slight movement, feels weird but mild.  I beleive there is a connection to this and foods that we eat.  I will continue to be strict with my vegan diet and post again soon with relative changes:)
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any progress in your condition, i have the basic symptoms as you for 4 months
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Lets try an experiment together, those with Gallbladder & without.

Sit in a chair, stretch right leg out behind you as far as you can, now lean forward onto desk laying your head on your left arm (like you where bored in one of your high school classes), now make sure your right leg is stretched out behind. Now breathe in slowly, but deeply, where does it hurt??????

Is it right under or below the right ribcage???
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This suggestion is only for those individuals who have already seen a doctor - had things checked out - and not been able to determine a problem.

There are muscles that can spasm or get something called "trigger points" (which are tender areas where the muscle fibers are contracted). These trigger points often refer pain to other areas. There are TWO muscles that can cause pain in, under, around the ribcage area AND around to the back (usually the lower, inside aspect of the scapula). They also mimick gallbladder issues.

So...if you have had all of the tests come back normal - and still experience discomfort - you may want to give this a try.

Trigger points will usually disappear by applying pressure/massage to them. The two muscles that need to be addressed are; the Serratus Anterior and the Diaphragm.

To release the Serratus Anterior muscle, feel for the most prominent rib on your side, straight down from your armpit at the level of your nipple. This is usually where the tenderness is the greatest. If the trigger point is very active, you won't feel like touching it - as it can really hurt. Fortunately, it doesn't take much pressure to have an effect. If you do not feel tenderness at that specific spot - realize that trigger points can be on any of the 9 ribs that this muscle attaches to. You can simply use your fingertips to apply some pressure to the tender area. Hold the pressure for several seconds (keeping the pressure the same). You should feel the tenderness start to slowly subside (this is the muscle releasing - as your pressure should be staying the same). Palpate your entire side feeling for tender points. Apply gentle but firm pressure to the tender points.  *****Keep in mind that the trigger point may be several inches from where you are feeling the discomfort - it can still be the cause of the pain*****

The second muscle is your Diaphragm. This is a thin muscle that separates the orgrans of the chest from those of the abdomen. It attaches to the lowest of the ribs (all the way around the body). You will have to use your fingers to apply some gentle pressure under your bottom ribs. This can feel uncomfortable and is easiest on the exhale motion (I find it nearly impossible to go deeper on an inhale). Your hands and fingers may tire easily - so you may have to break it down into separate sessions.

If these trigger points have been in the muscles for some time - they may take some time to release. Be patient. If you are tender after your first session - give yourself a few days before trying another session. Expect a slight "bruised" sensation. If this happens, not to worry, the tenderness will subside in 1 - 3 days and the muscles should be much healthier and happier than prior to the treatment.

If this all seems too complicated or you are apprehensive - call around to find a good, qualified Massage Therapist that is experienced with these treatments. If they look at you with the "deer in the headlights" look when you mention work on these two muscles - keep looking for another therapist. An experienced therapist should know exactly what to do. However, with practice, you can easily do this yourself. There is a great book that can guide you called "The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook" by Clair Davies. You should be able to find it on Amazon, ebay, etc.

Again, to reiterate, I only recommend this for those that have exhausted other resources. Please don't assume that it could be muscles if there is potential for it to be your gallbladder, liver or pancreas. However, if all has been cleared for you on those and you are still frustrated with the pain and discomfort - I think some of you might possibly find relief with these techniques. I suppose if even ONE person does - then it will be worth posting this. These techniques, of course, will work on either side of the body - but trigger points on the right side Serratus Anterior - could definitely be more prevalent in right handed individuals (but not limited to).

Best wishes to all!


Ah - and one more suggestion if this fails. Some people may find relief through acupuncture. If the the thought of needles makes you uncomfortable - find someone that does acupressure. Same concept, but without the needles!
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is it really the pinch nerve theory cause it just happened to me today ????
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i too have been suffering with this pain and idscomfort for about 3 mths, all test came back ok except when i did hida scan second dose bout killed me, so GI doc thinks it is my gallbladder although it is functioning at 51%..I meet with surgeon next wed, wish me luck and i feel your pain!
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I'm only 19 years old male overweight. I also have right quadrant pains getting really bad, I've had an abdominal ultrasound which didn't find anything I am nauseous 24/7 I hardly eat, 2 times at most a day all for about 3 months now pain comes on and off and it'll hurt my back and sometimes cause heartburn very painful sometimes. Certain little things like alka seltzer and cimetidine will help numb it for a bit but not all the time and I at one time was abusing alcohol and now when I do drink every so often it makes my stomach very upset and causes me immediate diarrhea. I too have had the "clay" type stool every once in a while I have no idea what that is or even an idea of what's really wrong with me, any advice?
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