I need your help ....

[minte]

HI evrybody this sonund crazy but not for me i am 27  years old and desperat with out  evry  thing
i dont have a proper life . because  i am too stincky to be with people, all alone and be allone in the future
unllese i get some thing usefull to elliminate the semell or dcrease the gas i have.

Dea ANGLE  who read this i dont know  what to say if you were with me when i write this you will not finish
to sit with me . in ethiopia i could not get aproper medication or digonisis  and i serch the internate about flatulence
i found devrom for the odure and beano to reduce the gas but i couldnot find both  in farmcy . even i cant able to buy on ebay because of in our country it dosnot work......in all of the resons i have, i could not find my hope  and lost it unlse some body out there help me. please  i beg SOME ANGLE to send me beno or bean-zyme( which is cheap)   only 1 botel to try it . AND TO KNOW THERE IS HOP UOT  THERE.

if you  know  what i am in  you know why i hate my  birth day

[minte]

still live smell like a poop , i cant able to do anything nothing chainged after all this time i tried very hard to chainge it but it has no solution or reamedy.

[Pappu1]

I see,I got your point

[boron]

When I eat some particular spices (something from paprica), oh yes, I get that smelly issue, oh yes, I know.

So, how's the smell? Low-sulphur diet, anyone tried?

[Pappu1]

What's point , boron?, you put as oh yes into bracket behind spicy food.

[boron]

With "excess enzymes" I've meant those which sulphate-reducing bacteria in the intestine (can't say now in which part of intestine excatly) have them. Low-sulphur diet should help you in two days, if these bacteria are the cause of the smell.

Lactase - enzyme which helps to break down lactose in lactose intolerant people, help to digest them dairy and thus prevents diarrhea. But this has nothing to do with the smelly gas, since the gas in lactose intolerance is not actually so smelly. Also, if you were having lactose intolerance, you'd have diarrhea after any dairy.

[boron]

From my current knowledge, smelly gas may be from these reasons:

1. smell of rotten eggs: bacteria which can break down some sulphate molecules in proteins. Solution: Avoiding sulphur-rich foods:
http://www.canarys-eye-view.org/challenges/food/sulfurfoods.html

2. barnyard smell: Clostridium difficile overgrowth, which often occurs after antibiotic treatment. Solution: Treatment with another antibiotics and probiotics, as prescribed.

3. sharp smell from unabsorbed fats. Diagnosis: Stool fat test, and tests tob find the cause of malabsorption. Temporary solution: low-fat diet.

I guess that other causes may be: spicy food (oh, yes) and certain other high-fibre food, parasites, unabsorbed bile, diverticulitis, suppurative lesions in anal area (abscess, fistula...), advanced cancer.

In an otherwise healthy person, some "wrong" food, and the 1st cause above are most often, I'd say.

[minte]

To: boron
hi boron

and also if it reduce the gas what i need it means it is a life saver i can   go to the toilet when the gas come if it is not frecuint and embaresment . few  times a daye  i think every person gas is smelly , may be different  on what he/ she eat

[minte]

hi

papu 1

i read on the web that after treating the bacteria with antibiotics they take yougurt and some tablet that contain a coted protection not to be destroyed by digestive acicd in the stomuch to rehabitate the usefull bacteria . please  ask this if it maye help. and google on ibs forums . sorry idont remembr the web adress where i asw it. may God be with .you .

boron

I really dont think i have exxess enzyme do you think that  bacteria produce enzymes  
if i have it i wish it  to be in the small intestine because that is where most of th nutrient absorbed  to the body after that no enzyme is usefull for human i think it is wher the gas come from digesting the undigested food and produce gas .  so if ihave ecxes enzyme it should be in th small intestine

also some people take lactese enzyme which is very effective on lactose intolerance people they have exeses gas too and it is said to be very effective

i printe out  the food listed on th web you gave me and i will definitely try  it


     thank you boron

[Pappu1]

Wow, I went to see Professor in Liver and stomach, today. He said that nothing wrong with my liver, but Level of ALT is ok now, but little bit high than normal level, keep on eye on ALT level, I did blood test again. Then, I asked about smell from gut and told him as boron( forum member) told me to treat too many normal bacteria at gut. Then, I asked him as " Will you suggest any antibiotic tablet". He said that he is not expert in the field(Smell and bacteria), but, he will not suggest antibiotic tablets, if kill normal bacteria, other harmful bacteria will grow into gut, and it will be ended life threatening illness. So, I asked him , what's solution for smell from gut. No anwser. I thought that that time, I wanted to kill him. I took my time to see him as Professor in Medicine, He could not help me, but I did not kill him. It was against Law

[boron]

The problem in your case is actually EXCESS enzymes (they are in bacteria you have).

[boron]

If you would have one of the major digestive enzyme deficiency, you'd gave constant diarrhea, so I doubt you have this.

I've read beano site. Beano contains enzymes which can help to digest ONLY some carbohydrates, but they explicitely say this WOULD NOT help to remove SMELLY GAS, since smelly gas comes from proteins containing sulphur.

[boron]

Minte, so, you will try it? Two days and you should see results.

[minte]

you are great i  saw the web you mention please see in detail about  human  enzyma deficincy

[minte]

hi  

ggreg thank you for your replaye

boron  you are
gases are not bad if they are not smell
even if i have too much gas i will not complain if it doesnot smell bad as you said i  read some that the smell come from sulphure .

1  if the  gas  decreased as anormal person i will not complain about it

2  and if there is no smell either i will   not complain either  even there is gas

i waist my time by reading newspaper, magazine books and watching american and indian movie on vcd . the rest of the day i go around the city.  i think iam very addicted to films but no chocolate in one year.

[ggreg]

Dear Minte (and some of this is for Pappu also),
I'm sorry I haven't gotten back to your messages you've been sending to me, Minte.  A lot is going on around here.  But I have some ideas I'm working on for you, and will post them in full later.  

I do have time, however, to say a couple things.  If you're missing a digestive enzyme, Minte, then a physician needs to determine how come your chemistry is goofed up, and get to the bottom of the situation and help you permanently.  Beano is just a bandaid.  You would be better off taking an alka seltzer.  And don't drink all this anti-diarrhea bottle stuff you mentioned early on.  You would be better off eating whole wheat bread.  Also, you said your gas smelled like fish, so do an internet google search for that particular odor as a health issue, and see what comes up.  

I also wanted to mention quickly that alcoholism can cause a bunch of B vitamin and mineral deficiencies, which can in turn give a person terrible gas.  In one of your very first posts, Minte, you mentioned you had cracks in the corners of your mouth, which is a sign of vitamin and mineral deficiency.  So, as a quick fix, I would recommend that if you are drinking (which Pappu said he was), that you stop drinking and find something else you like to do.  If you need to, get addicted to TV and chocolate, or video games (not a good idea), just whatever it takes to keep you off the streets, IF this is your problem.  Your motivation is to stop smelling.  In addition, find a reputable vitamin and mineral supplement and take those pills three times a week.  Also, you could benefit from "probiotics," which you can get by drinking Acidophilus milk or yogurt that has "live cultures" on the label, both of which are in grocery stores, and if it's not in yours, try looking in the "American" section of a large store in your area, or go to a "Natural Food Store," assuming you have something like that somewhere near where you live.

I'll try to get back to you as soon as I can with more info and to answer any more questions.
GG

[Pappu1]

Thank you for reply,
Two years ago,after read some of article about Gas INCONTINENCE, I  apporached distict nurse for incontinence. She asked me to see her every month and asked some excerise to improve weak muscles of the pelvic floor as put small rod into anus and took in and out by pelvic muscles while recording curves of strength of pelvic muscles in computer . That time, I thought that anal s£X would help to improve pelvic muscles. Any way, The nurse (West Indian Lady) had 35 years experience in the profession, did not have basic knowledge medicine, after few appointments, she did not know how to help me, and  said that to see specialist.  Any way, I do not know that  Hemorrhoids are in my colon ,if they were, they (doctors) might tell me.

[boron]

Gas SMELL (if it is like rotten-eggs) comes from foods which contain SULPHUR.
The list of foods containing sulphur:
http://www.canarys-eye-view.org/challenges/food/sulfurfoods.html

[boron]

To be honest, I've read some Beano clinical tests, and it was said to be helpful in reducing gas. But Beano helps only with gas which is a product of carbohydrates and NOT proteins. So, it helps in odorless gas.

[boron]

1. ACTIVITY. This means beeing in the "active mood", have a goal, have plans, have relationships, have a job which have a sense and bring joy. Not allowing that depression puts you down. Following wishes. I can persoinally confirm, that joyfull and hopefull feelings put the gut in the right order in minutes, in hours or in days.

2. Scar in the anus is possible. Not necessary that it can be seen from the gut side, so I think that an investigation to check a gas continence should be make. If incontinence will be confirmed, it may be repaired by a minor operation which would release the fibrous tissue.

3. If I get you right, if you exclude proteins, your gas has no bad smell.

4. You probably already have all enzymes. Artificial enzymes are needed only when body don't produce enzymes in sufficient amount, mainly due to pancreatic disease.

Beano website is a commercial site. They want to sell things. I personally don't believe Beano is solution for you. You noticed improvement with your diet trial. That suppurative boil you had maybe left a scar which makes you gas incontinent. You've said your problem started just then. I suggest you get involved in something, something you wish. It's all in your hands and in doctor's hands - if the procedure will be needed.

[minte]

hi boron  

thank you for evry thing

1  i am active at least i walk  1 hour  a daye  

2  making decision  yes i dont participate socially  in active  just live .

3   the scar is some thing i thik that afect  controlling(incontinnence  the gas

    i have questions born

1  eating non (exclude ) protien means no smell  onlly  gas

2   dont you think that artificial enzyme doesnot deacrese gas like beano they  claime    

     on their web site

[boron]

There are three levels of a problem here:

1. GAS. Gas may be from inactivity, beeing slow, not moving around, not making decisions...all this affect peristalsis, which also becomes slow, and gas builds in the intestine.
2. Gas INCONTINENCE. A healthy person should be able to controll gas. Hemorrhoids are common reason for gas incontinence, then adhesions or scars in anal area, and weak muscles of the pelvic floor.
3. Gas SMELL. It can be from certain food.

Being active, checking for gas incontinence (with investigation, not only by doctor's finger in the office), and excluding certain foods - these are three levels of the solution.

[Pappu1]

Thanks, some times, I did not drink for months, it did not make any different, but I accept tha one factor as rbeer is a good food for  bactreia.
How ever, I do not have problem by gas into stomach rather than stink from gut
Any way, many thanks
I will tell Professor next week, treat for bacteria at gut

[minte]

hi

it is realy to have you here . the wholl idea is that normally we digest foods that we  eat.  the undigested  feed to non harm full bacteria this bacteria ( some of them) produce gas from  it .

this undigested food reached the intestinal trak because our body canot digest some carbohydrate  such as alpha galactose.  according to some web site our body may canot produce some enzyme that are usefull for our digestion .

this digetive enzymes may be produced artificially and sold out as counter medicin    like beano ,digestive sdvantage ,sawnson digestive enzyme ther are alot out there.
what hinder me to geet them is there are no such medicin here in ethiopia  and i cnot buy them on the web because the government policy doesnot suport on line market .in fact this is like luxury to have such medicin more than 3 million people live with HIV.that is why ireally need some one sympaty to get it


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[boron]

About a small scar..I'm just listing possibilites. If you ever had a suppurative boil or other inflammation in the anal area, then this can leave a scar - just like after a larger skin wound. Such a scar could pull the muscle if anal sphincter toward one side and would cause incontinence for gas.

So you ARE bloated (as pregnant woman)? Beer contains maltose, which is broken down by bacteria which produce a lot of gas. Make a test. Don't drink beer for a week, and  you'll see if it helps. You obviously a lot of (normal) bacteria in the gut, and beer is a good food for them.