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Re: IBS & Kidneys + Cellulitis & gangrene from coral ....would like more information
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Re: IBS & Kidneys + Cellulitis & gangrene from coral ....would like more information
by HFHSM.D.-ym, Jan 01, 1995 12:00AM
Posted By HFHSM.D.-ym on July 26, 1998 at 15:41:10:
In Reply to: IBS & Kidneys + Cellulitis & gangrene from coral ....would like more information posted by ebc on July 22, 1998 at 00:05:51:
I read that IBS can affect other parts of the
body, including the kidneys...Can you tell me
more about this?
I was just recently diagnosed with IBS. The
ER doctor perscribed Flagyl to treat IBS.
Within 3 days I was still having severe
abdomonal pain,lower back pain,
and mucus in the bowel, plus I had
severe flank pain,severe back pain,
mucus in the urine,fever,
high blood pressure 139/96.
Normally my blood pressure is 120/80.
My urologist
changed antibiotics to Cipro to treat the
kidney infection. This cleared up the
mucus in bowel & urine, but still have the
same severe pains. I have to have an IVP
test next week to find out why my kidneys
are giving me problems again.
I am very concerned because I was also
diagnosed with congenital hydronephrosis
(chronic UPJ Obstructions) which required
numerous surgeries (that did not work) and
finally had to have a Pyeloplasty operation
(all within a 5 month period last year).
Then I had embedded coral sutured in leg
wound, which ended up becoming infected
with marine aquired Cellulitis and necrotic
tissue infection (gangrene).
I also read that kidney infections can
develop from post staph infections.....
and that most Cellulitis infections are
caused by Staph. Another question I have
is if staph infections can also cause or
lead to IBS?
I also read stress was involved with IBS,
and I know I've been under alot of stress
dealing with necrotic Cellulitis and gangrene,
but I've had stress before with having
4 kidney surgeries and 1 kidney operation
all within a 5 month period last year, and
all the stress involved from that (I almost
died during 1 surgery) didn't cause me to
develop IBS. I've never had IBS before,
and just wondered if other infections
(like marine infections)could somehow
contribute to IBS?
During the recovery of necrotic Cellulitis,
I developed a kidney infection. Was treated
with Cipro (had mucus in the urine). Then
a month later I was rushed to ER and diagnosed
with IBS (mucus in the stool). Within 3 days
of being diagnosed with IBS, another severe
kidney infection developed.
I just wondered if all these weird infections
are somehow inter related..........?
During the time being treated for necrotic
Cellulitis, a renal scan was done, and
confirmed that my kidneys have not changed
since post operation renal scan.....in other
words, I still do not have full use of
my kidneys (39% vs 61%).
Also, lymph notes were enlarged in groin
and leg (on same leg as wound was located).
When the lymph nodes swell and enlarge, they
are very painful... does this mean the
infection is traveling through the blood
(septis)? Could this be why I have developed
all these infections during the recovery
of necrotic cellulitis and gangrene?
I had to have surgery to remove embedded coral
sutured in wound, and also had to have
the necrotic tissue surrounding coral removed.
I just think its weird having all these
infections AT THE SAME TIME!
And I am very concerned about my kidneys
because of having prior surgery and operation
and do not understand why I would develop
2 kidney infections and IBS along with the
necrotic cellulitis and gangrene.
Any information you could give me on this
would be greatly appreciated.
Hopefully the IVP will tell why my kidneys
are giving me severe pain.
Will the IVP also tell why I'm having the severe
abdomonal pain?
Dear ebc,
From your description it is not at all clear to me that you meet the criteria for irritable bowel syndrome. Irritable bowel syndrome is defined as 3 months of continuous or recurrent symptoms of abdominal discomfort relieved with defecation or associated with a change of frequency and consistency of stool. Other criteria include the presence of altered stool passage, mucus in the stool, bloating and abdominal distention present for at least one quarter of occasions or days.
Irritable bowel syndrome has been uncommonly associated with urologic dysfunction but not with kidney disease. Most patients with urologic symptoms complain of urinary frequency and spasm. Other disorders associated with irritable bowel syndrome include: globus sensation, noncardiac chest pain, fibromyalgia, peptic ulcer disease, dyspepsia, asthma, hypertension, premenstrual syndrome, diverticular disease, lactose malabsorption and a history of multiple surgeries.
There is no current evidence that points to infection as a cause of irritable bowel syndrome. There are, however, a number of patients who present with irritable bowel syndrome soon after recovering from an acute infectious diarrhea. You should be aware that metronidazole (Flagyl) is an antibiotic and is not standard treatment for irritable bowel syndrome. From your complex medical history, it is hard to say without further evaluation, what is causing your abdominal pain. The IVP is a good first test to re-evaluate your kidneys and rule out stones and hydronephrosis as a cause for your symptoms. Good luck to you.
This response is being provided for general informational purposes only and should not be considered medical advice or consultation. Always check with your personal physician when you have a question pertaining to your health.
If you would like to be seen at our institution please call 1-800-653-6568 our Referring Physicians' Office and make an appointment to see Dr. Muszkat, one of our experts in Gastroenterology.
HFHSM.D.-ym
*Keywords: abdominal pain, irritable bowel syndrome
In Reply to: IBS & Kidneys + Cellulitis & gangrene from coral ....would like more information posted by ebc on July 22, 1998 at 00:05:51:
I read that IBS can affect other parts of the
body, including the kidneys...Can you tell me
more about this?
I was just recently diagnosed with IBS. The
ER doctor perscribed Flagyl to treat IBS.
Within 3 days I was still having severe
abdomonal pain,lower back pain,
and mucus in the bowel, plus I had
severe flank pain,severe back pain,
mucus in the urine,fever,
high blood pressure 139/96.
Normally my blood pressure is 120/80.
My urologist
changed antibiotics to Cipro to treat the
kidney infection. This cleared up the
mucus in bowel & urine, but still have the
same severe pains. I have to have an IVP
test next week to find out why my kidneys
are giving me problems again.
I am very concerned because I was also
diagnosed with congenital hydronephrosis
(chronic UPJ Obstructions) which required
numerous surgeries (that did not work) and
finally had to have a Pyeloplasty operation
(all within a 5 month period last year).
Then I had embedded coral sutured in leg
wound, which ended up becoming infected
with marine aquired Cellulitis and necrotic
tissue infection (gangrene).
I also read that kidney infections can
develop from post staph infections.....
and that most Cellulitis infections are
caused by Staph. Another question I have
is if staph infections can also cause or
lead to IBS?
I also read stress was involved with IBS,
and I know I've been under alot of stress
dealing with necrotic Cellulitis and gangrene,
but I've had stress before with having
4 kidney surgeries and 1 kidney operation
all within a 5 month period last year, and
all the stress involved from that (I almost
died during 1 surgery) didn't cause me to
develop IBS. I've never had IBS before,
and just wondered if other infections
(like marine infections)could somehow
contribute to IBS?
During the recovery of necrotic Cellulitis,
I developed a kidney infection. Was treated
with Cipro (had mucus in the urine). Then
a month later I was rushed to ER and diagnosed
with IBS (mucus in the stool). Within 3 days
of being diagnosed with IBS, another severe
kidney infection developed.
I just wondered if all these weird infections
are somehow inter related..........?
During the time being treated for necrotic
Cellulitis, a renal scan was done, and
confirmed that my kidneys have not changed
since post operation renal scan.....in other
words, I still do not have full use of
my kidneys (39% vs 61%).
Also, lymph notes were enlarged in groin
and leg (on same leg as wound was located).
When the lymph nodes swell and enlarge, they
are very painful... does this mean the
infection is traveling through the blood
(septis)? Could this be why I have developed
all these infections during the recovery
of necrotic cellulitis and gangrene?
I had to have surgery to remove embedded coral
sutured in wound, and also had to have
the necrotic tissue surrounding coral removed.
I just think its weird having all these
infections AT THE SAME TIME!
And I am very concerned about my kidneys
because of having prior surgery and operation
and do not understand why I would develop
2 kidney infections and IBS along with the
necrotic cellulitis and gangrene.
Any information you could give me on this
would be greatly appreciated.
Hopefully the IVP will tell why my kidneys
are giving me severe pain.
Will the IVP also tell why I'm having the severe
abdomonal pain?
Dear ebc,
From your description it is not at all clear to me that you meet the criteria for irritable bowel syndrome. Irritable bowel syndrome is defined as 3 months of continuous or recurrent symptoms of abdominal discomfort relieved with defecation or associated with a change of frequency and consistency of stool. Other criteria include the presence of altered stool passage, mucus in the stool, bloating and abdominal distention present for at least one quarter of occasions or days.
Irritable bowel syndrome has been uncommonly associated with urologic dysfunction but not with kidney disease. Most patients with urologic symptoms complain of urinary frequency and spasm. Other disorders associated with irritable bowel syndrome include: globus sensation, noncardiac chest pain, fibromyalgia, peptic ulcer disease, dyspepsia, asthma, hypertension, premenstrual syndrome, diverticular disease, lactose malabsorption and a history of multiple surgeries.
There is no current evidence that points to infection as a cause of irritable bowel syndrome. There are, however, a number of patients who present with irritable bowel syndrome soon after recovering from an acute infectious diarrhea. You should be aware that metronidazole (Flagyl) is an antibiotic and is not standard treatment for irritable bowel syndrome. From your complex medical history, it is hard to say without further evaluation, what is causing your abdominal pain. The IVP is a good first test to re-evaluate your kidneys and rule out stones and hydronephrosis as a cause for your symptoms. Good luck to you.
This response is being provided for general informational purposes only and should not be considered medical advice or consultation. Always check with your personal physician when you have a question pertaining to your health.
If you would like to be seen at our institution please call 1-800-653-6568 our Referring Physicians' Office and make an appointment to see Dr. Muszkat, one of our experts in Gastroenterology.
HFHSM.D.-ym
*Keywords: abdominal pain, irritable bowel syndrome
