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Re: metastatis to liver
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Re: metastatis to liver
by HFHSM.D.-rf, Jan 01, 1995 12:00AM
Posted By HFHSM.D.-rf on April 17, 1998 at 17:54:50:
In Reply to: metastatis to liver posted by mary on April 16, 1998 at 01:25:28:
My mother has stage 3 esophageal cancer and has undergone two rounds of
chemo and is 3/4 through with radiation. She underwent a follow-up CT scan
and they discovered several spots on her liver. Of course she's very
discouraged. I know this latest development is not good and from what I can
get from a phone conversation (she lives in a different state so I can't hear
directly from the doctor), the doctor is now more concerned about the liver.
What does this mean for us? Based on your clinical experience, what is the
life expectancy for patients with this complication. Her doctors have dis-
couraged the idea of surgery of any kind and aren't too keen on the more
experimental therapies. Are there any new treatments on the horizon for
people in my mom's situation? They have also discussed the idea of a feeding
tube, which she finds very repellant at this stage. What sort of surgery would
this involve and what is the typical response of patients after they get this
surgery (both physically and emotionally). I know these are difficult questions
to address since the info is sketchy and I'm asking for fairly specific answers.
These are also emotionally charged questions, but we are facing some very
difficult times and need to have some ideas of what to expect.
Many thanks for your help,
Mary
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Dear Mary,
I am sorry to read about the problems being experienced by your mother. I assume that the new CT scan shows liver "spots" that were not present at the time of the initial evaluation. The most likely explanation for the liver abnormality is that the tumor has extended into the liver despite the aggressive treatments. It is necessary, however, for tissue confirmation of liver metastases. This can be done quite easily, as an outpatient, by a directed liver biopsy done under ultrasound or CT direction.
Unfortunately, it is impossible to provide survival numbers that have any meaning. Talking about time until death has value when one is describing a large population of patients, but has no meaning when considering how long an individual patient will live. Factors such as overall health status and concurrent cardiac, pulmonary diseases will affect survival.
I do not know the therapy received by your mother, but in general a radiation and chemotherapy combination is an aggressive therapeutic approach. There are no novel treatments for your mother if she has liver metastases.
I would strongly encourage you to consider the placement of the feeding tube. As the esophageal tumor grows your mother will experience progressive difficulty swallowing food or liquids because the tumor occludes the swallowing tube. An outpatient endoscopic procedure will place a tube in your mother's stomach through the abdominal wall. This should be a quick and relatively easy procedure. It takes us approximately 10 minutes to do the endoscopy and place the tube. The advantage of a percutaneous feeding tube is ease of obtaining fluids and nutrients. Your mother will have less frequent episodes of dehydration and will not require chronic intravenous lines.
I hope that this information is helpful to you. If you have additional questions, please follow up with another message,
HFHSM.D.-rf
*keywords: esophageal carcinoma, feeding tube
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In Reply to: metastatis to liver posted by mary on April 16, 1998 at 01:25:28:
My mother has stage 3 esophageal cancer and has undergone two rounds of
chemo and is 3/4 through with radiation. She underwent a follow-up CT scan
and they discovered several spots on her liver. Of course she's very
discouraged. I know this latest development is not good and from what I can
get from a phone conversation (she lives in a different state so I can't hear
directly from the doctor), the doctor is now more concerned about the liver.
What does this mean for us? Based on your clinical experience, what is the
life expectancy for patients with this complication. Her doctors have dis-
couraged the idea of surgery of any kind and aren't too keen on the more
experimental therapies. Are there any new treatments on the horizon for
people in my mom's situation? They have also discussed the idea of a feeding
tube, which she finds very repellant at this stage. What sort of surgery would
this involve and what is the typical response of patients after they get this
surgery (both physically and emotionally). I know these are difficult questions
to address since the info is sketchy and I'm asking for fairly specific answers.
These are also emotionally charged questions, but we are facing some very
difficult times and need to have some ideas of what to expect.
Many thanks for your help,
Mary
___
Dear Mary,
I am sorry to read about the problems being experienced by your mother. I assume that the new CT scan shows liver "spots" that were not present at the time of the initial evaluation. The most likely explanation for the liver abnormality is that the tumor has extended into the liver despite the aggressive treatments. It is necessary, however, for tissue confirmation of liver metastases. This can be done quite easily, as an outpatient, by a directed liver biopsy done under ultrasound or CT direction.
Unfortunately, it is impossible to provide survival numbers that have any meaning. Talking about time until death has value when one is describing a large population of patients, but has no meaning when considering how long an individual patient will live. Factors such as overall health status and concurrent cardiac, pulmonary diseases will affect survival.
I do not know the therapy received by your mother, but in general a radiation and chemotherapy combination is an aggressive therapeutic approach. There are no novel treatments for your mother if she has liver metastases.
I would strongly encourage you to consider the placement of the feeding tube. As the esophageal tumor grows your mother will experience progressive difficulty swallowing food or liquids because the tumor occludes the swallowing tube. An outpatient endoscopic procedure will place a tube in your mother's stomach through the abdominal wall. This should be a quick and relatively easy procedure. It takes us approximately 10 minutes to do the endoscopy and place the tube. The advantage of a percutaneous feeding tube is ease of obtaining fluids and nutrients. Your mother will have less frequent episodes of dehydration and will not require chronic intravenous lines.
I hope that this information is helpful to you. If you have additional questions, please follow up with another message,
HFHSM.D.-rf
*keywords: esophageal carcinoma, feeding tube
0.4
