Sudden Pain

[pozzouk]

Hi, i'm new to this site.

I have been experiencing an intermittent pain in the right side of my stomach for over ten year and as is obvious it hasn't killed me yet! - however when the spasm strikes it is horrendous.  The symptoms first struck during the night often around 4am while asleep.....i can assure you i was pretty soon wide awake.  I have realized over the years that i dare not sleep on my right side or it is almost certain to strike.  However, the problem occasionally occurs in the daytime, maybe every two or three months in the lower right bowl area and just inside of the crest of the hip - it truly is absolute agony!!!!!  The spasm lasts for about an hour most often the worst of the pain comes in the form of 7or8 major waves of pain........we are talking bad language!!!!!  

For example, i bent down to check for a magazine in my local supermarket at the weekend - and BANG, instant recognition of having made a mistake.  As it was i had to get the kids to a party ten miles away. I knew it was a mistake getting in the car especially as, once in i can not get out till the problem passes - usually between 45 minutes to an hour and a half.  Then as sudden as the problem started it passes away - although tender for a day or two and prone to repeat if sat down, say at a PC for any amount of time.

I have checked with the doctor several times and have had the area poked and prodded, each time i have been told there is no problem - i just wish when i screaming in agony the dock could be about to inform me there is no problem.

Appreciative of any help

Pozzouk.

[boron]

We are improving nice, I've found out that you are man, at least.

Urinary infection is often without symptoms, often mild, often just as increased frequency to urinate. Having urinary stones almost always goes with slight infection.

I think you have somewhere to start now:
- urine analyzis for infection and some components of stones
- some imaging of kidneys and urethers (PYELOGRAPHY or whatever your UROLOGIST will suggest). Ultrasound often miss small stones, anyway, this might be your first investigation.

[boron]

Is it LOWER right stomach pain? Under the belt?

[boron]

I'm from the president country of EU. :)  I've finished medical faculty, have some practise, but I work as a healt writer and not as a doctor. There were a lot of abdominal problems in my family and I kind a stuck with this topic lately.

Belt-line point - this was to determine the location. It is appendix there, it is inguinal hernia occuring often below...

If it is bowel - it is actually possible, that your bowel twists, or you get temporary hernia, or one part of the bowel slips into the next one. I would certainly expect at least some mucus, or blood or diarrhea AFTER the pain attack, if it was bowel.

My suggestion: go to the GP, make some drama there and ask for see an UROLOGIST. I think stones can be confirmed/excluded with great certainty (but only with full testing, not with mere US).

If it is the bowel, the problem is, that it can go to normal after an attack - and doctor would find nothing on examination.
This led me to suggest you to check first for urinary stones.  

[pozzouk]

Definitely a male, i think the lack of ovarian tubes was a dead give-away....LoL.  I definitely tend to go a lot as it were.  I have recently finished a course of antibiotics (Amoxylin) for a nasal infection and have not noticed any change elsewhere in the system.  

I think you may have a point with the passing of some sort of stones - re the deep spasms in the middle lower back.  In fact i have noticed a groaning type of ache in this area when out running in colder weather.

With regard to the bowl area problem i personally suspected some sort of twisting or spasm as a result of compressing the rising intestine but i am no medical expert and here in the UK the general practitioners don't seem to be that interested until you collaps with something obvious!!!  Where in the world ru and what is your expertise boron???

PS.  I was also curious as to you belt-line point.

Thanks for your interest.

[pozzouk]

In addition, i have noticed an issue with having to rise around four in the morning for a pee, whether i need to do a pint or two or just a half say.  Because of this i got to have one of these prostate tests a year or so back but it came back negative.

Hmm.

[pozzouk]

Thanks for your views again - as a fact i have had for many years had sudden excruciating pains from the right kidney area.  I'm sure i mentioned it to the doc years ago but it was put down to a muscular back spasm......i thought not, as it seemed to deep and where i suspected the kidney was (like i'm no biology student!).

As for the infection theory i think not, as the problem has been there for years, although i had wondered about some sort of stone passing as it seemed to crop up around every 2/3 months or whenever i rolled onto my right side at night - needless to say, i have learned to stay on my left while sleeping........or else!

Does this help?

[boron]

Urinary infection? Burning feeling at peeing? Kidney or uretheral stone or other obstacle would be nicely seen on some contrast x-ray investigation (pyelography). Kidney stone pain may irradiate toward groin. If someone strike you moderately with the fist over the right kidney (back right, just under the rib cage), this would cause dull or sharp pain in the kidney.

[pozzouk]

Cheers for your thoughts on this - Definitely not constipation, or from what i can tell any bloating - just bang as i go to bend down - this then takes an hour or so to clear after seven or eight major spasms, this might happen every couple of months.  Or, as mentioned before, if i were to lay on my right side there is a good chance the same symptoms would turn up............Oh, and definitely not ovarian or i am about to make medical history!!!!!! ;o))

[boron]

Hm, simple constipation or bloating could cause quite strong pain.

If you think it is real SPASM  (it grabs you, hold constantly for all the time and leaves) than this comes from hollow muscular organ - appendix
ovarian tubes
right urether (urinary stone) or
intestine.

Any thoughts on the list?

[pozzouk]

Yes is the answer to your question and when it strikes i doubt if child birth could be much worse - when i was stuck in the car the other afternoon, if someone had tossed pile of £50.00 notes on the floor i could not have got out of the car for over an hour

I'm not sure, but i suspect that the tinyest of little bubbles are trying to get through but nothing like say when you might have a bit of uncomfortable air or general digestion on the move.