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Tissue in stool

Tissue or mucous in stool: I have had gastrointestinal problems for a while; no 'specialists' have been able to help me.  Lately I have tried mixing vinegar with warm water and doing small 8 oz enemas, frequently; I have released tons of opaque tissue.  It feels good when I release it but I can't find anyone who can tell me what it is.  I am going to assume it is lymphatic tissue that has attached to colon lining.  Of course 'opaque' tissue won't show up in tests I suppose and that is why they can't find anything wrong with me.  But there is a problem and until you try cleansing of this type you will see what I mean.  Everyone tells me they don't have anything like this - but they have never tried cleansing.  I have read that most cancers start with the lymph tissues that build up (can't release).  I'm hoping this is the case and that I am reducing the chance of colon or intestinal cancers.  Unfortunately I can't see any end to this, I have been doing this for several weeks and still get huge amounts of mucous.  Any suggestions?


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Welcome to the gastroenterology community!  What problems have you been having?  I might be able to help you find a good treatment for your problem.  There is no support that most cancers start with the lymph tissues that build up.  What you are doing will not reduce the chance of cancer.  I don't recommend the treatment you are using as it can cause problems in the rectum.  The mucous is normal and the amount you are releasing should not be worrysome to you.
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Problems: chronic pain & swelling in upper right stomach under rib & constipation; intercostal neuralgia; white egg-like things in stool as well as lots of clear mucous.
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What does the pain feel like?  Does anything change the pain?  By swelling, do you mean bloating?  What tests have you had done?  What have you tried with respect to diets?
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Pain is dull/not sharp and worsens as the day goes on.  Swelling - inflammation.  I have done every test imaginable - numerous ultrasounds, MRI's, x-rays, etc.  The only test that showed anything was my naturopaths bio-resonance machime.  3 gastroenterologist, 1 hepatologist,1 ID specialist - none of which helped me.  Diets: I'm lucky if I can eat at all but yes I do watch the foods I eat and hve stayed away from beef and pork.  Anyway, do you know what the opaque tissue is?  I did get rid of 4 large gallstones yesterday after using electromagnetic treatment plus colonics.  The stones were in a kind of chain with tissuey substance around them.
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Can you please tell me all the tests you have had?  I am sure you have not had every test imaginable.  Concerning diets, have you tried a lactose free diet for 2 weeks and a gluten free diet for 2 months?
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Ultrasound, MRI, X-ray, stool samples, urine samples, bio-resonnance testing.  What other test is there and it will need to be from an unregistered doctor since they all say they don't have any idea what's wrong with me and won't do any more testing for me.  There is no point going any further until I find out what is wrong.  The only way I can do this is by asking questions like 'what is this opaque tissue'?  I don't know why you are determining my diet?  I do not eat lactose or gluten foods.  Numerous people have tried  me on different diets, etc.  This has been going on for 4 years and I have gradually cleaned up most of my organs.  I would still like to know why this unusual substance is coming out of my bowel instead of regular stool.
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I am trying to help you which is why I am asking all these questions.  There are many other "traditional" tests you have not have which includes colonoscopy, endoscopy, CT scan, and blood tests.  I'm actually shocked you haven't had blood tests or a colonoscopy.  I don't believe these are done by unregistered doctors.  There is hope though, and there are reasons to go further even if you don't know what's wrong.  If you keep on trying you will hopefully find what is wrong.  I saw 4 gastroenterologists and they couldn't really find what was wrong and their treatments wern't working well.  I saw a 5th gastroenterologist and with one test she figured out what was wrong and now we are working on treating it.  I am not trying to determine your diet, I am just trying to make sure you have tried all these things.

To answer your question, there are 3 possibilities that I can think of concerning the mucous.  First is that the vinegar is irritating the lining of your colon making you produce this extra mucous.  Second is that because you are doing enemas so frequently, you are seeing the normal lining of your intestines come off  (this can be called mucoid plaque by people in alternative medicine).  Third is that there is something unique to you that is going on.  Did you notice this before you started doing enemas?
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I have found a gastroenterologist that is supposed to be good and I've asked my doctor for a referral but either she won't do it or he won't see me, not sure but haven't got an appointment yet.  I have had numerous blood tests and I keep track of them - for 3 years.  I've had 2 colonoscopies - nothing found.  Yes there was a lot of mucous prior to the enemas that is why I started them regularly to clean it out.  It could be plaque or candida; I would think this much candida would not be so transparent.  It could also be e-coli or lamblia intestinalis.  If I spend $300 and send a stool sample to the States I could probably find out but I thought maybe somebody else in Canada has seen the same problem.
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I didn't know you had blood test of a colonoscopy because you didn't list them in all the tests you have had.  I personally consider plaque to be a harmless substance that certain people have.  If you had e-coli I would expect you to have more symptoms so I don't believe it is e-coli.

Earlier you had mentioned swelling and had called it inflammation.  I doubt it is inflammation because of the location and symptoms so I was wondering why you thought it was inflammation and not bloating?
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I asked if anyone knew anything about what the 'tissue' is in stool.  Over the past few months I have gotten rid of over a cup of it; it looks like toilet paper to a certain extent - and no, I don't eat toilet paper.  I did a colonic today and loosened up what I hope to be the end of the blockage to the gallbladder; a lot of this is by physical manipulation i.e. can feel the small blockages and try to move them.  Question is still:  what is the tissue?  A few hours after the colinic I did a mini enema with the vinegar and I got some small stringy stuff, with tissue, and a bit of fresh blood.  I believe I have been getting rid of helmins also.  I know the advice is to see a doctor but as I've explained, that is impossible.  I just need to know what the tissue is and I will deal with everything else.  I have not felt this good in over 4 years so I am doing something right.
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Maybe there is a pathologist in this forum?  You may be more aware of tissue in intestines.  As patient915 keeps asking questions I will tell you - I was diagnosed by way of bio-resonance testing about 6 months ago with Lamblia intestinalis, Proteus vulgaris, Escherichia coli, Candida albicans and Diphyllobothrium scolex.  The last time I was tested it seemed the scolex was not still present.  It did show improvements in liver and kidney but gallbladder was pretty full.  I have recently had stones losen from liver and gall but I can still feel that there are more to come.  Today there was a lot of loosening and I'm not too concerned about a tiny bit of fresh blood since I have been going to town cleansing, etc.  Yes I did get a lot of tissue before the cleansing so I really want to know what it is.
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According to my research, lamblia intestinalis (which I had never heard of) is commonly known as giardia (which I do know about) which is a common infection in humans and will show up on a stool test and is usually treated by antibiotics.  Proteus vulgaris is a type of proteus which is usually also treated by antibiotics.  Escherichia coli (or E coli) is almost always harmless but there are certain strains which are harmful (just having E coli is not necessarily bad).  Candida albicans is found in most (80%) of humans and it is rarely harmful.  Diphyllobothrium is a tapeworm and is usually treated with anti-parasitic.  I find it very surprising that you would have so many different usually unrelated (giargia, proteus, and a tapeworm) diagnoses.  This makes me doubt these diagnoses.  I am by no means doubting you or your symptoms, I am just doubting the diagnoses you were given by the person you saw.  Another reason I doubt the diagnoses, is that a lot of these things will show up on a stool sample, and I believe you said your stool sample was negative.  Do you travel (these things are usually picked up when someone travels)?  There are no doctors or pathologists on this forum.
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I guess there is no point going further on this forum; guess I picked the wrong site.  I guess you are smarter than the $40,000 diagnostic equipment.  I have read all about the above also.  My question was 'what is tissue' and it seems I can't get that answered so you might as well close this.  I noticed about 4 yrs ago someone asked the same question with no answer.
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I didn't mean to insult you or question you in any way.  I want to help you and I want you to feel better which is why I have been asking you so many questions.  I don't think I am smarter than diagnostic equipment, I just wanted to try and help you because I don't want you being ripped off.  My point in my previous post was that it would be very very unlikely for you to develop all those things at the same time and if that was the case that you developed all those things, then you need to be treated with strong medications.  Realize that we get people on this forum that don't know very much about what they are dealing with (unlike you) which is why I ask so many questions and describe things in depth.  I don't know what the tissue is and I'm sorry you couldn't find an answer here.

Since you couldn't get the answers on the Gastroenterology Community, you might want to try posting on a different section of MedHelp:
http://www.medhelp.org/forums/Ask-a-Nurse/show/703
http://www.medhelp.org/forums/Internal-Medicine/show/664
http://www.medhelp.org/forums/Travel-Medicine/show/192
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Thank you for your help.  Actually this did not happen all at once; it was a continous buildup of not taking care of myself for over 50 years and it caught up to me about 4 years ago.  I was in acute pain - so bad that I could not move for weeks; doctors said they didn't have any explanations.  However, since then I have been doing cleansings, starting with para, then liver and colon, etc.  I am at a point now where I can almost pinpoint the problems and I have almost no pain at all.  For all the therapists and medical help I have tried, it has cost me over $20,000.  I could have gone the same way as most of the people I know and just get organs, intestines, etc taken out or transplant (just like my sister, neice, boyfriend and most friends).  I'm getting rid of gallstones and some stones that were on my liver; the liver looks good now and it getting stronger.  However, the tissue has me puzzled; I believe it is a yeast oriented thing but not sure.  My lower stomach feels better when it is discharged.
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For the past 2 months I have been going through gallbladder cleansing and opening up the bile duct.  As of now there is little evidence of the tissue; still would like to know what it was but guess it's not important now.  Still do the mini enemas with vinegar.  Every day is a new experience.  I tried Calendula oil on my stomach yesterday as well as Dr Reckeweg R7 (gall/liver stimulant).  Something has happened since the old stringy stuff is now more dense and more release of spongey stools (stones from liver I think).  I'm keeping up with the colonics (colon hydro care) since it keeps everything free-flowing and I can tell 'old' build up from new - getting to the point that I can tell where exactly it is coming from.  My osteopath also helps open the duct - quite painful but only for a few moments & accupuncture helps strengthen the liver (although I will likely only have one more visit).  If there's anyone out there that has tried to cleanse each organ, please let me know - nobody seems to know much about the whole thing.
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I do keep small samples i.e. gritty, tissuey, stringy, spongy, green, brown, tan, etc; I don't know anyone who cares or is interested in finding out what they are.  Any suggestions?  (in freezer for now).  You seem to be the only one who has any interest, that is why I am asking you.
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I can't really tell you anything about the cleanses because I know nothing about them.  I'm sure there are places out there that you will find on the internet that will have you mail your stool sample to them and they will do extensive testing on them.  I tend to believe that most of these places are scams.  It is interesting that your stool changes so drastically but I'm not sure what to do with the samples of them.  Sorry I don't know that, but at least you are feeling better.
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do you have any updates?  I also have neglected things for many years. I am just starting to change my diet, have passed tissue with my stool made up of orangish/reddish, some areas of greyish/brown ( dead tissue i would think)  Went to the doctor and after not even looking at it closely- said it was something i ate.  Please, if anyone has accurate information & genuinely cares.

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hi my name is kaylene and i have been having the same symptoms. I would like to know what if any answers you have gotten please. my email is ***@**** thankyou
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