gallstone or soapatone

I did a liver/gallbladder flush.  Hundreds of "stones" came out of me.  Then I read the debate on the internet about the flush ingredients, (epsom salt, lemon juice, olive oil) actually being the thing that creates these soap stones.  So are they really gallstones or just something the body creates after you drink the supposed flush mixture?  Anyone have any advice or insight?

[Idab]

I think you may just be onto something here!  Sounds to me like soapstones.  The thought of gallstones just being flushed out with a tonic is way too easy, when you so often hear of how many people nearly die of gall stones that get stuck and have you ever seen a real gall stone - exactly what it is, as hard as a rock.  If anything, the ingredients you took probably enhanced a good colon cleanse.  If there is pain and it continues, see a doc.

[gabriela8]

I had done a ten day cleanse before the flush, so there was nothing in my bowls.  My system was empty excepy for liquids.

[Jaybay]

Sorry, but if you have gallstones for real, there is no "cleanse" that will "wash" them out of your body.  I don't know what you saw come out, but I doubt it was gall stones.  Most colon cleansing products are nothing but a farce.  Yes, they will give you major diarrhea, and some contain bentonite that will produce some really bizzare and spectacular results - but it's just the bentonite - not something that has been in your body for years.

Please don't waste your money on these kinds of products.  If you have a problem, you need to see your doctor.

[Kevling]

Beware people, gall stones are mostly harmless, unless they cause an attack and dislodge themselves into the common bile duct, where they can cause serious complications.

Medical science is skeptical about the possibility of dissolving stones with most practitioners firmly on the side of "it can't be done."

The liver flush that you are describing above is an incredibly contentious idea based on the theory that the gall bladder will contract powerfully and regularly over a given period of time as it desperately tries to emulsify the vast quantities of oil entering your small intestine and in the process, will flush out gallstones and sludge.

The common bile duct in most humans is about 4mm in diameter and therefore it would be impossible to flush a large gallstone (which usually cause little damage in any case), it would theoretically be possible to flush out sludge and small grain like gallstones, however and this is where I am issuing a serious WARNING, if your gall stones are between 3 and 5 mm in diameter there is a huge risk that you could dislodge a stone that will block your common bile duct and this can cause gall bladder inflammation, pancreatitis, jaundice and a vast raft of quite life-threatening illnesses.

The olive oil and lemon juice sluice theory is therefore quite valid, as is the idea of taking large amounts of Turmeric in ones diet, however, although most gallstones are benign, you should really seek medical advice regarding a high oil intake approach as it could do you more harm than good.  Most doctors would strongly advise against it.

Conversely there is quite a bit of evidence that encouraging the liver to produce excess bile rather than encouraging the gall bladder to contract can be beneficial.

The best ways to do this are:

Eat smaller amounts, regularly and often and never skip breakfast,
Eat more soluble fibre,
Eat more beetroot and carrots,
Eat at least your basic "5 a day" more if possible
Cut out all processed food
Avoid red meats
Only use olive or cannola oils and avoid butter and margarine
Eat foods high in Omega 3 & 6
Drink at least 8 glasses of water a day
Try to drink at least one glass of good quality apple or vegetable juice a day
Take a vitamin C tablet every day
Milk Thistle and Dandelion supplements are advisable but should be taken regularly to be effective,

If you like coffee limit yourself to 1 espresso a day and drink it AFTER your main meal,

If you like a drink limit yourself to ONE glass of preferably red wine a day,

Green tea is also an excellent anti-oxident and is thought to reduce the risk of developing some cancers.  Gall stones are a primary contributory factor to gall bladder cancers, and therefore drinking green tea regularly may be advisable.

Hope this is useful.

[csb80918]

Don't be so sure that only doctors have the answers.  Surgery of any kind if the last thing you want to do.  

Try all the gallbladder flushed you like and then do extensive research on how to identify gall stones, if you have to send it to a lab or some official medical office then do that.

I really doubt that doctors are the only people who can identify a gall stone.  Come on people surgery and medicine are the last resort.  Try ever imaginable alternative first, medicine and surgery are to be avoided if possible.