A few easy question about HIV transmission

[oscar1005]

Dear Dr, I am new to this forum and I have a few of questions which are very easy and simple.

all questions are about my last time body massage. the whole process, I was wearing my underwear and the lady was also dressing her underwear. there is no sex and oral sex, only very normal massage. No ejaculation.

1) I kiss the lady face 2 times and kiss her neck also 2-3 times, each time very quick. my mouth may has a small crack due to the dry weather, and I am sure it is not bleeding.  So is there any HIV risk when my cracked mouth contact her face and neck? I remeber her face and neck are not bleeding. and  I know HIV is not transmitted by sweat, is this right?

2) the lady also kissed me on my face 2-3 times, also very quick. I have some acne on my face and i am sure on that day no bleeding from my acne. I am not sure her mouth has some cuts or not, but i remember no blood. So is there any HIV risk if her saliva or maybe blood touhing my acne zone?

3) she sit on me during massage, she dressed her underwear, is there any HIV risk if her vaginal fluids comes out from underwear and touch my body? I know HIV is not transmitted through clothing, is this right?

4) i use my hand to touch her underwear and may touch some vaginal fluids which comes out from underwear. then after a few seconds, i use my hand touched my underwear and may also touch my penis, is this any HIV risk?

5) if my underwear touch her underwear, is there any HIV risk if her vaginal fluids comes out from her underwear and then touch my underwear and later touch the top of my penis?

those are all my questions and please kindly to reply me and help me.
I think I already find the answers from similar question in other posts.
But i still need help and the answers will help me to find a way how to face my fear.

Have a good day to all

[Edward W Hook, MD]

Welcome to the Forum.  I'll be happy to answer your questions.  None of the activities you describe place you any risk for HIV or for any other STI, even if your masseuse did have infection and it is unlikely that she did- most people, including most commercial sex workers do not have HIV.  HIV is transmitted in adults only through unprotected, penetrative intercourse or injection of infected material deep into tissue.  It is not transmitted by kissing or being kissed, by touching infected material such a genital secretions and is not transmitted through clothing.  

In answer to your specific questions:
1.  There is no risk from kissing her, even if your lips were cracked and even if you kissed her seat or a place where blood had been.

2.  No risk from being kissed, even if she had cuts or blood in her mouth. Your acne does not change this.

3.  No risk from her sitting on you, even if her underwear was wet with her vaginal secretions.

4.  No risk from touching her with your hands, even if in doing so you got some of her genital secretions on your hand or fingers.

5.  No risk from touching underwear, even if some of her genital secretions passed through onto you penis.

Please do not worry about these events. There is no reason for concern and no reason to test for HIV or any other STI.  EWH

[oscar1005]

Thanks Dr.Hook

sorry for my impatience, you are right, i should find a way to ease myself and i should trust your assurance.

thanks a lot, for what you confirmed and adviced.

[Edward W Hook, MD]

You need to be more patient.  The site is not manned 24/7.

Your questions above are repetitive, have been answered and in no way change my earlier ansers or replies.  Closing the thread earlier is not an invitation to start a new one.  

1.  No change in my assessment or advice- no risk
2.  No change in my assessment of advice- no risk
3.  No change in my assesment or advice- no risk.  

If my assurances do not put you at ease and you cannot do so yourself, then I suggest that you seek the help and advice of a trained counselor or mental health professional.  Yiou need to deal with your own guilt over your activites.  EWH

[oscar1005]

Dear Dr. Hook

please kindly help me with  my last questions and please give me some advice for move on.

thanks for all what you suggest to me

[oscar1005]

Dear Dr. Hook

I am really sorry to come again with my shame, just because some new scenario came to my mind and nervous come back to me.
actually i opened a new post, but i was advised by Dr.HHH, he told me i should post here for more help.

please kindly answer my last 3 questions, and i swear this will end this story:

(1) about No.1 in my post. before i kissed her, maybe she kissed her fingers first in her mouth, then she touched her necks or faces by her finger, then i kissed the same area on her face or neck.
is that any HIV risk if my cracked/bleeding mouth touched her saliva when the saliva is transferred to face or neck by her fingers?
and is that any risk of HIV  if she use her finger to  touch any of her infected material (blood, saliva, vaginal fluids), then touch her face and then my bleeding mouth kiss the same area?

(2)about No.2 in my post. As i said my acne is not bleeding because i will fell that if it is really bleeding. What if  the worst case :my acne is really bleeding also her mouth is bleeding, any risk of HIV when my bleeding acne touched her blood from mouth or saliva.

(3 )about No.3 in my post. i forgot to tell you on my back or legs, i also have some small acne zone, i think they are not bleeding, but not sure because i can not see them. what if the acne is bleeding, when the lady sit on me and the vaginal fluids or blood comes out from her underwear and touch my bleeding acne area, any risk of HIV?

please kindly answer me and confirm there is no risk at all for all my activities in the whole process.

Also do you have some advices for me to get my mind relaxed and forget my panaroid?

Thank you again and please help me for the last time.

Wang

[oscar1005]

Thank you so much Dr.Hook

I think i feel fear just because i became a father last year, i am afraid to harm family, especially my little boy.

Thank you again for your very helpful reply, and it's time for me to move on.

Wish you have a good Sunday.

[Edward W Hook, MD]

This will be my final reply to this thread.

Yes, you should move on without concern or fear from HIV or and other STI related to the encounter you described.  No risk.  No need to worry.

Your interpretation of the two senteces you had questions about is correct.

This ends this thread.  Take care.  EWH

[oscar1005]

Dear Dr.Hook

Sorry to trouble you again on Sunday morning. I still have a little fear when i see my 1-year old son and when i kiss him. And i know i already got the solid answer (no risk at all) from you.

So please kindly answer my last question here:
I can enjoy my normal life (for example, has unprotected sex with my wife, kiss my son and all other normal life contatcs), without any HIV or STDs test. Is this correct?  Should i move on without any concern?

ps:  also please kindly help me to understand two sentences (I am a Chinese, sometimes i am not sure about my understanding when i meet some new words or new sentences which i never used)

-  in your last reply "Simialrly no risk from your hand touching your penis after touching her underwear."  means " also no risk from your hand touching your penis after touching her underwear" . right?

- i also posted a same article in the HIV prevention community before i post here. So Mr. Teak answered me " At no time were you ever at risk of contracting HIV."  means  " you never has a risk of contracting HIV". right?


Sorry to ask you 2 questions like grammer question, just want to confirm my understanding and let me forget all my concern and fear.


Thank you again and have a nice day, Dr. Hook

[oscar1005]

Thank you so much, espacially for your patience.

So i should move on and forget my fear.

[Edward W Hook, MD]

Correct.  I said this earlier.  HIV is not transmitted through contact with sweat.  

Simialrly no risk from your hand touching your penis after touching her underwear.  

No risk at all from any of the activities or possible exposures you have described.  EWH

[oscar1005]

Dear Dr. Hook

Thank you so much for you quick reply, and this will help me a lot to forget my fear and move on.

Two more question and please help to clarify based on your kindly answer above

About No.1 : I saw a lot of posts, said the sweat will not transmit HIV, is this right?

About No.4: Like i wrote above,  my hand touch her underwear first, after a few seconds my hand touch my underwear and may touch penis , so still no risk, right?

All above your answers, are based on even if the  massage lady has HIV infection. My understanding is No matter the lady is with HIV or without HIV, there is no risk for my all questions, right?

Thank you again and have a nice day.