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Dear Doctor
im on the edge of a complete breakdown.Please answer my question.I cant rest in peace till i get some sort of answer from you.... I went to bangkok and like an idiot i got an oil massage done....she rubbed oil on herself and then rubbed oil on me. il cut to the important part...she oiled my penis and put on a condom and gave me oral after which i think she put lube or oil on her vagina and got on top of me. i ended up penetrating her for about 30 seconds.i ejaculated within 15 seconds and by the 30th second i was out ofher. after which i removed the condom and washed my penis. the condom seemed to be intact. i did not know that oil damages condoms.....i had a glance at the condom and it did not seem damaged..but i cant be sure... after this incident i have not been able to lead a normal life. infact i cant eat or sleep.im in tears as to how i could do such a stupid thing......please tell me my risk level....what is the chance that i will get hiv assuming that the girl is hiv...16 days after this i got an hiv antibody 1 and 2 test done, hepatitis b test and a vdrl test done...all came negative.i had to this because my gf got vaginal warts (which started about 1 month before my exposure) but had increased and the doctor asked her to get me tested as well. its been about 18 days now since i got the massage and i have no hiv symptoms until now when i can feel a small swelling behind my ear. its connected to the bone right behind the right ear and only on the right ear. i can also feel some tenderness on one side of the throat.my friend (who just became a doctor)says i am at very low risk because in 30 seconds the condom breaking and the hiv passing through is unprobable
is this true?
what are my chances? i believe i am ok...send me some good news and some lucky charm cuz i am on the verge of the worst
im on the edge of a complete breakdown.Please answer my question.I cant rest in peace till i get some sort of answer from you.... I went to bangkok and like an idiot i got an oil massage done....she rubbed oil on herself and then rubbed oil on me. il cut to the important part...she oiled my penis and put on a condom and gave me oral after which i think she put lube or oil on her vagina and got on top of me. i ended up penetrating her for about 30 seconds.i ejaculated within 15 seconds and by the 30th second i was out ofher. after which i removed the condom and washed my penis. the condom seemed to be intact. i did not know that oil damages condoms.....i had a glance at the condom and it did not seem damaged..but i cant be sure... after this incident i have not been able to lead a normal life. infact i cant eat or sleep.im in tears as to how i could do such a stupid thing......please tell me my risk level....what is the chance that i will get hiv assuming that the girl is hiv...16 days after this i got an hiv antibody 1 and 2 test done, hepatitis b test and a vdrl test done...all came negative.i had to this because my gf got vaginal warts (which started about 1 month before my exposure) but had increased and the doctor asked her to get me tested as well. its been about 18 days now since i got the massage and i have no hiv symptoms until now when i can feel a small swelling behind my ear. its connected to the bone right behind the right ear and only on the right ear. i can also feel some tenderness on one side of the throat.my friend (who just became a doctor)says i am at very low risk because in 30 seconds the condom breaking and the hiv passing through is unprobable
is this true?
what are my chances? i believe i am ok...send me some good news and some lucky charm cuz i am on the verge of the worst
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
I know you're frightened and I'm trying to help. But I cannot do that if you ignore my advice. Please re-read my original reply.
It makes no sense to be tested repeatedly at frequent intervals. It also is a waste of your money and it isn't going to relieve your anxiety. Let me reemphasize: it is less likely that you caught HIV during that exposure than the chance you will die of a lightning strike someday. (If you live in the US, that's around one chance in 17,000. The chance you caught HIV is at least a hundred times lower than that.)
Feel free to return to this forum to post one more negative test result at 6 or more weeks after the exposure. But please no more until then. If you cannot accept the reality that you were not at risk, you should consider counseling. It isn't normal to be so resistant to rational analysis and advice. I suggest it out of compassion, not criticism.
It makes no sense to be tested repeatedly at frequent intervals. It also is a waste of your money and it isn't going to relieve your anxiety. Let me reemphasize: it is less likely that you caught HIV during that exposure than the chance you will die of a lightning strike someday. (If you live in the US, that's around one chance in 17,000. The chance you caught HIV is at least a hundred times lower than that.)
Feel free to return to this forum to post one more negative test result at 6 or more weeks after the exposure. But please no more until then. If you cannot accept the reality that you were not at risk, you should consider counseling. It isn't normal to be so resistant to rational analysis and advice. I suggest it out of compassion, not criticism.
dear doctor
i got an hiv oraquick test done on 19 days and 21 hours as well....fyi...just gt it done ..came negative
i got an hiv oraquick test done on 19 days and 21 hours as well....fyi...just gt it done ..came negative
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
I forgot to comment on your symptoms. They don't suggest HIV, especially after such a low risk exposure. Testing at 16 instead of 18 days doesn't change my comments above.
You can't miss a ruptured condom; it's usually all or nothing, not just a small hole -- so your bare penis would be obvious.
It made sense for you to be tested for STDs because of your girlfriend's diagnosis of genital warts, as her doctor suggested. You need to keep an eye out for penile warts; you can assume you are infected with the same HPV strain your girlfriend has. But this doesn't change anything with respect to your exposure in Thailand. Many STDs increase the risk of HIV if exposed, but HPV is not believed to do so.
You can't miss a ruptured condom; it's usually all or nothing, not just a small hole -- so your bare penis would be obvious.
It made sense for you to be tested for STDs because of your girlfriend's diagnosis of genital warts, as her doctor suggested. You need to keep an eye out for penile warts; you can assume you are infected with the same HPV strain your girlfriend has. But this doesn't change anything with respect to your exposure in Thailand. Many STDs increase the risk of HIV if exposed, but HPV is not believed to do so.
The other problem is that i have never seen a broken condom so i dont know what it would look like////i just remember a glance at the condom and it seemed normal....
what if the condom broke? what would my risk be then- 1 in ten or 1 in 50 ?? what is the estimated risk for 30 seconds of sex.....
thank you so much doctor.....i will finally be able to move on with my life. how can i donate money to your organisation?
what if the condom broke? what would my risk be then- 1 in ten or 1 in 50 ?? what is the estimated risk for 30 seconds of sex.....
thank you so much doctor.....i will finally be able to move on with my life. how can i donate money to your organisation?
Dear doctor...that is reassuring but the test was at 16 days ...not 18...
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Relax. There was no risk of HIV. You have a common misundersranding about oil and latex condoms. Oil weakens latex so there is an increased risk of breakage. But if the condom remains intact, protection is complete. In addition, HIV now is very uncommon in Thai sex workers -- very different than 15 years ago, die to one if the world's most effective national HIV prevention campaigns.
For these reasons you were at essentially no risk for HIV; except for anxiety relief you don't even qualify for recommended HIV testing. In any case, your negative HIV test at 18 days is moderately reassuring; probably ~50-70% of infected persons have positive results by that time.
If you remain unconvinced, have another test after 6-8 weeks. In the meantime, mellow out. You can expect it to be negative.
Best wishes-- HHH, MD
For these reasons you were at essentially no risk for HIV; except for anxiety relief you don't even qualify for recommended HIV testing. In any case, your negative HIV test at 18 days is moderately reassuring; probably ~50-70% of infected persons have positive results by that time.
If you remain unconvinced, have another test after 6-8 weeks. In the meantime, mellow out. You can expect it to be negative.
Best wishes-- HHH, MD
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