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concern about HIV transmission during a SM play
Hi,
One month and a half ago, I visited a professional dominatrix. During the session, I licked her feet and heels; She stroke me with leather paddle and flogger. I was not that hard beaten, so I didn't remember a huge bleeding(my skin might still be broken though). And she also peed on my penis at the end.
Since then, I have been really worried about contracting HIV. I am concerned about the fact that she stroke someone who is HIV+ and used the same instruments with that person's blood on me ( even though I was told I am her first client that day and she cleans the instruments between sessions). What makes me more nervous is that the symptoms showing up: I have a foreign body sensation in my throat for more than one month, inconsistent coughing, and most importantly, two swollen nodes on each side under my jaws( around 1cm-1.5cm). ( no fever or rash)
I want to ask about my risk of contracting HIV. How long the virus live in blood/body fluids on the leather paddle or flogger? Am I exposed to risk when licking her feet/heels? And also how about the urine?
I am extremely worried right now. PLEASE HELP!!!
One month and a half ago, I visited a professional dominatrix. During the session, I licked her feet and heels; She stroke me with leather paddle and flogger. I was not that hard beaten, so I didn't remember a huge bleeding(my skin might still be broken though). And she also peed on my penis at the end.
Since then, I have been really worried about contracting HIV. I am concerned about the fact that she stroke someone who is HIV+ and used the same instruments with that person's blood on me ( even though I was told I am her first client that day and she cleans the instruments between sessions). What makes me more nervous is that the symptoms showing up: I have a foreign body sensation in my throat for more than one month, inconsistent coughing, and most importantly, two swollen nodes on each side under my jaws( around 1cm-1.5cm). ( no fever or rash)
I want to ask about my risk of contracting HIV. How long the virus live in blood/body fluids on the leather paddle or flogger? Am I exposed to risk when licking her feet/heels? And also how about the urine?
I am extremely worried right now. PLEASE HELP!!!
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Welcome to the forum.
Interesting question. Since HIV dies promptly when blood or other secretions dry out, there probably would be no risk even if a previous client had been flagellated or otherwise injured with the same implements -- unless the previous exposure was only a few minutes earlier. The theoretical risk is higher, however, for hepatitis B and hepatitis C viruse (HBV, HCV) which are a lot more infectious than HIV. Even then, the risk probably would be extremely low, even if the prior client had HIV, HBV, or HCV -- which of course is statistically unlikely.
Still, such instruments definitely should be cleaned and disinfected between uses. It would make sense for you to contact the lady involved and ask whether she does so. If so, you have no worries. If not, perhaps she will learn to start doing it. But I stress that even if she does not, the statistical likelihood of acquiring a bloodAlthough the replies on the community forum were brief, they were accurate. Such indirect HIV transmission, by contaminated instruments used for sexual pleasure, has never been known to occur. And of course mouth contact with feet or skin anywhere is risk free, and urine exposure also is safe.
If you remain concerned, you could be tested. Six weeks is enough time for testing for any of these infections. This does not mean I really believe there was signficant risk; I do not. You can expect negative results.
Your symptoms don't even hint at HIV or any other blood borne infection. But any unexplained and bothersome symptoms should be evaluated -- so see your doctor about them if they continue or you remain concerned.
I hope this helps. Best wishes-- HHH, MD
Interesting question. Since HIV dies promptly when blood or other secretions dry out, there probably would be no risk even if a previous client had been flagellated or otherwise injured with the same implements -- unless the previous exposure was only a few minutes earlier. The theoretical risk is higher, however, for hepatitis B and hepatitis C viruse (HBV, HCV) which are a lot more infectious than HIV. Even then, the risk probably would be extremely low, even if the prior client had HIV, HBV, or HCV -- which of course is statistically unlikely.
Still, such instruments definitely should be cleaned and disinfected between uses. It would make sense for you to contact the lady involved and ask whether she does so. If so, you have no worries. If not, perhaps she will learn to start doing it. But I stress that even if she does not, the statistical likelihood of acquiring a bloodAlthough the replies on the community forum were brief, they were accurate. Such indirect HIV transmission, by contaminated instruments used for sexual pleasure, has never been known to occur. And of course mouth contact with feet or skin anywhere is risk free, and urine exposure also is safe.
If you remain concerned, you could be tested. Six weeks is enough time for testing for any of these infections. This does not mean I really believe there was signficant risk; I do not. You can expect negative results.
Your symptoms don't even hint at HIV or any other blood borne infection. But any unexplained and bothersome symptoms should be evaluated -- so see your doctor about them if they continue or you remain concerned.
I hope this helps. Best wishes-- HHH, MD
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
See my original reply: "Six weeks is enough time for testing for any of these infections." Although 3 months is often advised, it's overkill and rarely if ever necessary. See this thread (read it all -- the important information is in a follow-up comment): http://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV-Prevention/-A-Question-on-Testing/show/1347755
Hi Doc,
Did you see my previous post? Is 48-day test reliable? Do I need another one at 3-month?
Did you see my previous post? Is 48-day test reliable? Do I need another one at 3-month?
Doctor, I got a rapid blood test today and the result is negative. Is this conclusive? Do I need another test after another 1 month and half? Thanks.
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
The answer should be obvious from my replies above. No risk.
However, it is comforting to know she takes those precautions.
However, it is comforting to know she takes those precautions.
Thanks again,doc. The lady responded to me, saying that I was the first client on that day (I saw her at 1pm). And she did clean the instruments after each use. Should I be free from the potential risk?
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Hand-to-skin contact cannot transmit HIV, even in the presence of superficial skin wounds, rashes, cuts, etc. In addition, I do not accep the premise that she has HIV. The odds she is infected probably are under 1 in 1,000. But you could ask her. People rarely lie about HIV status when asked directly. But even if positive, this sort of contact is risk free.
Thank you, doctor. I am relieved. I am going to ask the lady. In the meantime, could I ask another question? I do recall that she used her hands to touch my beaten areas (back and ***). If there is cut on her hands, would that be a risk (assuming she is HIV+)?
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Patience, patience. The moderators are not on line 24/7. MedHelp standard is for a reply on the professionally moderated forums with 24 hours whenever possible, but even that isn't guaranteed.
Hi doctors,
Could you answer my questions? I am extremely paranoid !!! THANK YOU A LOT.
KL
Could you answer my questions? I am extremely paranoid !!! THANK YOU A LOT.
KL
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