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[Wear/a/Jimmy]

A quick refresher:

1) Unprotected oral
2) Protected vaginal
3) Protected anal

Sex with a pro, pro had signs of chlamydia/gonorhea, heavy bleeding, blood exposure with condom on


Thus far, I have tested:

1) Negative for HIV at 27 days
2) Negative for HIV at 35 days

3) Positive for Chlamydia at 27 days(source at a independent clinic)

4) Negative for Chlamydia & Syphillis at 28 days (private hospital)
    Gram stain of Less than 5 with a White Blood cell of 1

5) PCR test at 27 days (Results pending and should be recieved in approx. 15 hours
6) PCR test at 35 days (Results pending will be recieved in 2 weeks)


Yes I know PCR tests are usually crazy expensive, but where I am at they do not cost too much. Around 100 USD, and yea, that sounds a little steep, but for the peace of mind they can offer, to me it is worth it.

I am concerned though, I have lymph node pain, but not necessarily a large amount of swelling, they are about the size of a peanut. I have them under my arm, along my rib cage area, and deep in the gorin area, and the wierdest, is the back of the hip area. Nothing really to speak of around the throat. I do have pharyngitis, which could be due to ghonorea. I think the nausea, fatigue are guilt and anxiety related.

For those that do not believe you can get an STD like gonorhea or chlamydia from recieving oral....  that is a mistaken belief. For those that believe it is easily cured....   I have yet to have that experience.

I would write more, but I need to try to get more sleep.  15 hours and counting

[ScaredinAbuDhabi]

Good luck and please post back and let us know.  Also I've read on this very forum similar and worse stories of symptoms that were negative.  Best of luck...

[regularjoey]

We told you, man, this can't be chlamydia!
That first doc you saw was full of it!
Hang in there, you'll be OK

[Teak]

You can get chlamydia from oral sex.

Chlamydia can be transmitted during vaginal, anal, or oral sex. Chlamydia can also be passed from an infected mother to her baby during vaginal childbirth.

Any sexually active person can be infected with chlamydia. The greater the number of sex partners, the greater the risk of infection. Because the cervix (opening to the uterus) of teenage girls and young women is not fully matured, they are at particularly high risk for infection if sexually active. Since chlamydia can be transmitted by oral or anal sex, men who have sex with men are also at risk for chlamydial infection.


http://www.cdc.gov/std/Chlamydia/STDFact-Chlamydia.htm#HowGet

[Teak]

You don't have lymph node pain with ARS, HIV or AIDS unless you poke and probe them. Gonorhea or Chlamydia both are easily cured. I don't know where you are being treated but something isn't right with your treatment. There are no resistant strains to antibotics for both of those STDs. I've never seen where anyone said that you could not contract Gonorhea or Chlamydia through oral sex unless you are saying you contracted it while using a condom then that would never be.

[regularjoey]

You could get gonorrhea from getting head for sure.
But probably not chlamydia.
And I think there is drug-resistant gonorrhea out there.
But again, not chlamydia.

[regularjoey]

We're talking about insertive oral sex.
Dr. H here thinks that it never happens.
I'm not sure if any such cases were ever documented.
In any case, if it happens, it must be extremely rare.

[Teak]

Tell that to the people that contract Chlamydia orally.

[monkeyflower]

It's possible to get chlamydia through oral sex, but very rare. And the chlamydia you'd get from oral sex would be from giving blowjobs, not receiving blowjobs. I'm guessing you had a false positive on the first test, and an accurate negative the next day.

You are way overtesting, but it's your time and money. Don't you think you'd be better off  spending that time and money on counseling? Your only problem is your guilt and anxiety.

[regularjoey]

Are those the same guys that got HIV orally? )))

Anyway, I don't know why Dr. H. says what he says.
Apparently he published some study on this, finding no evidence of chlamydia in people's throats.
But he could be mistaken, I guess.

[regularjoey]

I agree, just because something is not found in a study, that doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

That's the paper, I believe, that deals with oral sex.

"Oral insertive intercourse was independently associated with urethral gonorrhea (OR 4.4, CI95 1.4-13.4) and nonchlamydial NGU (OR 2.2, CI95 1.3-3.7), and receptive anal intercourse was associated with newly documented HIV infection (OR 2.6, CI95 1.3-4.9). Neither number of sex partners nor condom use was associated with any incident STD outcome, including new HIV infection. CONCLUSIONS: MSM who attend STD clinics represent a subgroup of homosexually active men who remain at high risk for STDs, including HIV infection. Fellatio, commonly thought to be a "safe" sexual practice, is an independent risk factor for urethral gonorrhea and nonchlamydial NGU. A history of consistent condom use or of few sex partners should not dissuade clinicians from performing screening tests for HIV and other STDs. Repeated STD screening and counseling about safer sex are indicated for many HIV-infected MSM."

I haven't read it, so I can't judge it, but it seems like a simple enough study...

[Teak]

Let me tell you right not that his published study is flawed if he actually stated that you can not get chlamydia of the throat and pass it on to others in by oral sex.

[regularjoey]

This is from Dr.H:

"So I spoke with Dr. Klausner (who obtained his STD training in my program at Univ of Washington). Reviewing electronic medical records of the SF STD clinic, they find 1% of people have positive chlamydia tests of the throat (quite a bit less common than gonorrhea); and occasional patients with urethral chlamydia whose only sexual exposure in the preceding few months (that they admit to) is fellatio. Thus, he concludes that mouth-to-urethra chlamydia transmission is possible.

In my opinion, however, it remains unlikely. One percent prevalence in the throat is low; transmission to other sites has never been actually proved; many people give inaccurate information about their sexual exposures (intentionally or forgetfully); and chlamydia can be carried in the urethra for many months, so the infection may actually have been acquired from distant vaginal or anal intercourse, not fellatio.

Bottom line: If chlamydia transmission occurs from mouth/throat to partners' genitals by oral sex, it is extremely rare - rare enough to be disregarded. But I can't say it is zero, and Dr. K can't say for sure that it happens."

[Teak]

Let me tell you right now if Dr. H published a study that you can not get oral chlamydia and transmit it by giving someone head, then his study is flawed, because chlamydia can be transmitted by oral sex.

[Teak]

Correct, if one has vaginal chlamydia, they can not transmit it by giving a blowjob, unless they were infected with chlamydia of the throat also. But chlamydia can not travel form one vigina (vagina) to the throat.

[monkeyflower]

I was curious, so I just read a couple of studies. Pharyngeal chlamydia does occur, but I read wildly different statistics--from 1% to 1.9% to 6% in MSM. Rectal chlamydia is a much higher risk.

But regardless, it's safe to say jimmy didn't get chlamydia from receiving a blowjob.

[regularjoey]

Oh yeah, after all those antibiotics there is no way that test was correct.

[Xhost]

Well, regardless of the Chlamydia question, which I do not feel well qualified to comment upon, your HIV test is absolutely going to be negative. You had protected sex, which is a good thing! You did the right thing and, as such, you will be very happy once your realize that you are indeed HIV negative. Good luck managing your anxiety until then!