Another test?

[kub27]

Hi, I am male. had unprotected vaginal sex with a female who has many partners. had very strong symptoms. and still have most of them.
tested negative on duo test on weeks 3,4,5,6,8,10  and 12 but realized it was 3 days short of exactly 12 weeks. also had negative PCR RNA test on week 8. do i need to test again? thanks

[Teak]

You don't not have an HIV concern you've over tested and you have a conclusive antibody test.

[Krish799]

No more tests needed at all listen to Teak And RL they are right I was advised no test for my exposure but still tested 1 month 3 month and recently at 8 month all negative was having symptoms too all gone now after my last test it's all anxiety driven symptoms I learnt it the hard way thinking 6 months as window period it's of no use 3 months is enough..

[Teak]

Had you had ARS you would have tested positive and you did not test positive.

[RainLover71]

And you don't get ARS symptoms after 2 days either,it's 2 to 4 weeks after.

[RainLover71]

YES

[kub27]

i have had these symptoms since day 2. so these tests are conclusive regardless of any symptoms?

[RainLover71]

You are not having ARS symptoms after 12 weeks,that's not possible.Your symptoms have nothing to do with ARS because your tests are fully conclusive.

[kub27]

also, are my results conclusive even though i had and still have very strong ARS symptoms?

[RainLover71]

You have had a million tests and they were all negative.YOU DON'T HAVE HIV!!!!! and you are not going to infect anyone.You are 100% conclusive.Time to move on.

[kub27]

the last test was also duo actually. guys im so sorry to be a pain but i have somebody who is very important to me and i could not live with myself if i infected her. can i 100% consider myself conclusive and move on? thanks

[RainLover71]

You are 100% HIV negative with all those negative DUO's,the RNA and the antibody test.There is no way on gods earth that you could have HIV.You're safe.

[Teak]

At 3 months post exposure and as you were already advised over and over your results are not going to change in 3 days.

[kub27]

Teak, so thats what Im saying. so PCR RNA taken before/together with antibody test rules out hiv infection...correct? just trying to raise a discussion that may help others as well...

[Teak]

There are no tests marketed or sold that can give a conclusive negative test result ealier than 3 months post exposure. That is ALL tests.

[kub27]

RainLover so you also agree my results are conclusive?

[RainLover71]

The combination of those 2 tests would virtually rule out HIV infection.From Dr Handsfield,"the combination of the PCR and antibody test with negative results means it's not possible to have been infected with HIV"".The HIV community forum will advice to test out to 3 Months but that only applies to antibody testing"

[Teak]

The only time a PCR-RNA test is conclusive is when it is used in conjuction with an antibody tests. You tested with an antibody test after your RNA test. YOU DON'T HAVE HAVE HIV.

[kub27]

would you agree that it would be impossible to have negative PCR RNA (sensitivity of mine was 40 copies) and not have detectable antibodies a few weeks after infection? wouldnt a RNA combined with antibody test be even more conclusive?

[RainLover71]

Of course the RNA by PCR is useful or it wouldn't be used as an HIV test and it also is used to screen blood donations,that's how sensitive it is.

[kub27]

Teak, I understand. and im not arguing. i am just trying to prove that the RNA test can also be useful. do you agree with my assumption above?

[Teak]

No you are not going to seroconvert past 12 weeks. It's time for you to move along. You don't have HIV.

[kub27]

ok. but what i am asking is: would it be reasonable to assume that undetectable viremia can only be found in people on ART and/or if antibodies are established. it is impossible to have undetectable RNA and no antibodies after a few weeks from infection. therefore a negative RNA test combined with a negative antibody test would give extra re-assurance and eliminate the possibility that one will sero-convert past 12 weeks. would such reasoning be correct? thanks

[Teak]

Your antibody test was conclusive and trumps an RNA test.

[kub27]

thanks. so:
1)long-lasting symptoms dont mean long sero-conversion?
2)would my negative PCR RNA test also add extra re-assurance?