Another test?

Hi, I am male. had unprotected vaginal sex with a female who has many partners. had very strong symptoms. and still have most of them.
tested negative on duo test on weeks 3,4,5,6,8,10  and 12 but realized it was 3 days short of exactly 12 weeks. also had negative PCR RNA test on week 8. do i need to test again? thanks

[Viky818]

Your results are conclusive, don't need another test.

[kub27]

so 3 days dont make a difference?

[nightrider007]

Good luck, enjoy your life and pray for who are worried.

[kub27]

what does that mean? thanks

[Viky818]

You can go for another test after 90 days just to ease your mind, but it won't make any difference to the results.

[kub27]

now im confused... are my tests conclusive? do i need another test? thanks

[Viky818]

Relax, no you don't need it.

[Teak]

No you do not need further testing.

[kub27]

Thanks guys. Teak... I noticed on other forums you always insist on saying 12 weeks is the only conclusive test. for my own peace of mind... my test was 3 days short. not trying to play smart, but how is it that you say my results are conclusive? how many days short can a test be to fall into the conclusive category? just want to be sure so i dont put other ppl in danger... thanks

[kub27]

Thanks Viky. Teak do you agree my results are conclusive? I would also very much appreciate response to my last question. thanks

[kub27]

Teak... whenever you have a sec it'd be really nice to get a second opinion from such an experienced answerer like yourself. thanks a lot

[LIZZIE LOU]

your test result will NOT change in 3 days.  you do not require further testing.

[kub27]

so is that equivalent to a conclusive result? sorry for being so annoying but i wanna be sure i dont put others at risk...

[LIZZIE LOU]

CONCLUSIVE

[kub27]

under what circumstances would i need to do another test please? thanks

[Teak]

You might if you were on chemo, taking antirejection drugs for an organ transplant or a chronic IV drug abuser.Which you aren't.  

[kub27]

thanks. so:
1)long-lasting symptoms dont mean long sero-conversion?
2)would my negative PCR RNA test also add extra re-assurance?

[Teak]

Your antibody test was conclusive and trumps an RNA test.

[kub27]

ok. but what i am asking is: would it be reasonable to assume that undetectable viremia can only be found in people on ART and/or if antibodies are established. it is impossible to have undetectable RNA and no antibodies after a few weeks from infection. therefore a negative RNA test combined with a negative antibody test would give extra re-assurance and eliminate the possibility that one will sero-convert past 12 weeks. would such reasoning be correct? thanks

[Teak]

No you are not going to seroconvert past 12 weeks. It's time for you to move along. You don't have HIV.

[kub27]

Teak, I understand. and im not arguing. i am just trying to prove that the RNA test can also be useful. do you agree with my assumption above?

[RainLover71]

Of course the RNA by PCR is useful or it wouldn't be used as an HIV test and it also is used to screen blood donations,that's how sensitive it is.

[kub27]

would you agree that it would be impossible to have negative PCR RNA (sensitivity of mine was 40 copies) and not have detectable antibodies a few weeks after infection? wouldnt a RNA combined with antibody test be even more conclusive?

[Teak]

The only time a PCR-RNA test is conclusive is when it is used in conjuction with an antibody tests. You tested with an antibody test after your RNA test. YOU DON'T HAVE HAVE HIV.

[RainLover71]

The combination of those 2 tests would virtually rule out HIV infection.From Dr Handsfield,"the combination of the PCR and antibody test with negative results means it's not possible to have been infected with HIV"".The HIV community forum will advice to test out to 3 Months but that only applies to antibody testing"

[kub27]

RainLover so you also agree my results are conclusive?

[Teak]

There are no tests marketed or sold that can give a conclusive negative test result ealier than 3 months post exposure. That is ALL tests.

[kub27]

Teak, so thats what Im saying. so PCR RNA taken before/together with antibody test rules out hiv infection...correct? just trying to raise a discussion that may help others as well...

[Teak]

At 3 months post exposure and as you were already advised over and over your results are not going to change in 3 days.

[RainLover71]

You are 100% HIV negative with all those negative DUO's,the RNA and the antibody test.There is no way on gods earth that you could have HIV.You're safe.

[kub27]

the last test was also duo actually. guys im so sorry to be a pain but i have somebody who is very important to me and i could not live with myself if i infected her. can i 100% consider myself conclusive and move on? thanks

[RainLover71]

You have had a million tests and they were all negative.YOU DON'T HAVE HIV!!!!! and you are not going to infect anyone.You are 100% conclusive.Time to move on.

[kub27]

also, are my results conclusive even though i had and still have very strong ARS symptoms?

[RainLover71]

You are not having ARS symptoms after 12 weeks,that's not possible.Your symptoms have nothing to do with ARS because your tests are fully conclusive.

[kub27]

i have had these symptoms since day 2. so these tests are conclusive regardless of any symptoms?

[RainLover71]

YES

[RainLover71]

And you don't get ARS symptoms after 2 days either,it's 2 to 4 weeks after.

[Teak]

Had you had ARS you would have tested positive and you did not test positive.

[Krish799]

No more tests needed at all listen to Teak And RL they are right I was advised no test for my exposure but still tested 1 month 3 month and recently at 8 month all negative was having symptoms too all gone now after my last test it's all anxiety driven symptoms I learnt it the hard way thinking 6 months as window period it's of no use 3 months is enough..

[Teak]

You don't not have an HIV concern you've over tested and you have a conclusive antibody test.