Ars

Could ARS cause severe nausea and wrist joint pains, knee pains. And severe rib cage pain? For 3 weeks in a row.

[Vance2335]

I'm sorry but this fourm can't really help you anymore. You have been told over and over that you did not have a risk, yet you don't believe us. So you keep posting anxiety driven questions.

Please post in the anxiety forum or see a therapist, but this HIV forum has no other info that we can provide you.

[LIZZIE LOU]

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[Vcosta]

Thank you Vance but I just don't understand it. I was so healthy before. I never felt sick and sick for this long esp. I had no other exposure other then lancets. How could I be feeling all these symptoms now out of no where. I don't know if anxiety can cause joint pains and nausea to the point that I can't go to work and I just lay by the toliet until the next bout of nausea comes over me. I feel weak all the time and I've lost so much weight when I'm suppose to be gaining. I just need to know why I'm feeling like this. Why am I so sick only after that lancet.

[Vance2335]

Folow up with a Dr and a therapist.

[Teak]

See your doctor if you are concerned, it has nothing to do with HIV. You never had an exposure.

[Vcosta]

Thank you. I have been to my doctor. He can't find anything. He ran tests and blood tests and says everything seems fine.

Teak you have so much knowledge about HIV/HIV transmission. And it's great that your on here to spread the knowledge. But what is the difference between when you state nurses get infected from injecting themselves when they suffer a needlestick. That confuses me, bc injecting when I think of it like that is that they press down on the needle plunger. But I assume when I nurse accidentally pokes herself/himself with the needle they automatically pull it out not press down. Could you explain when injecting means?

[zamzam4]

First of only a very small number of needlesticks out of hundreds that happen on a weekly basis result in transmission.  

Their needlestick is immediate and is with a hollow bore, not a lancet that has been through postage and packing.

You simply will not get HIV in the manner you have described.  We have been over this so many times, you have had the same response on aidsmeds.

I don't it, you come on here for advice and then disregard everything we are telling you.  

You do not have HIV, you will never get HIV in the manner you describe.  You really need to stop focusing on HIV and start focusing on your baby.  When I was pregnant my OCD got really bad, hormones can really make anxiety worse and my deepest regret is that I never got o enjoy my pregnancies as I was too caught up in the what if's.

Please understand that we do not take HIV risk lightly on this forum, if you had a risk, evena small one, we would tell you.  You haven't. I can't keep repeating myself on this one.

[Vcosta]

Thank you emma, I know we've discussed this so many times but these symptoms are driving me mad. I don't understand how it came on all of a sudden just after this whole lancet thing came up.

I just feel like I keep hitting a brick wall, my doctor puts me on edge bc of the response he gives me about the risk he said that I have. He says anxiety wouldn't cause this. Yet I read that it would but he doesn't think it would, he wont give me anxiety meds bc I'm pregnant and he keeps telling me to prepare for the good or bad news I will recieve in a few weeks.

I of course want to believe the answers I'm getting here bc it's exactly what I want to hear its exactly what I want my outcome to me. Zero risk and negative HIV. But I am afraid bc of the pregnancy and bc of my husband that what if my doctor isn't  completely wrong I just feel like I don't know what to do anymore.

I believe what you are saying Emma an I thank you so much for explaining everything but these symptoms are affecting my everyday life. I can't go to work bc I'm constantly in pain in my knees/ribs/wrists and gagging.

[zamzam4]

This will be my last response to you on the forum until you do as I suggest, which is seek out professional mental help.  Even if you have to stand in the ER and beg for it, you need it.  Sorry but you do.

Your symptoms (all of them) have nothing to do with HIV and everything to do with anxiety.  

Anxiety can produce hundreds upon hundreds of physical symptoms that seem very real.  If you haven't done so already I suggest you read Lizzie Lou's journal on anxiety symptoms and you will see what I mean.

You need to get off the internet and see a doctor, not about HIV but about your anxiety.  It is at an all time high and you must get help with it.

This is a forum that assesses risk for HIV, you have not had one and you will not get anymore responses about a risk that you didn't have.  By engaging with you on this forum we are simply fuelling your fear by giving you reassurance that your anxiety/OCD twists into yet another what if question.  We are not helping you and you are not helping yourself by coming back here over and over again.

You need face to face psychiatric help.  Please go and get it and stay away from this forum, it is doing you no good at all.

[RainLover71]

I don't think you require psychiatric treatment at all,you have expressed your concerns honestly and this has been a real ordeal for both you and your family,although there was no risk I would suggest you test in 2 weeks for that final test for peace of mind and you will see how all your symptoms will go away and how much better you will feel.I wish you all the best.

[Teak]

zamzam suggestion to you is spot on. Seek professional mental help for  your phobias.

[RainLover71]

There is a big difference between having a genuine fear of a virus and being told to seek professional mental help.Everyone will react differently to an exposure,it doesn't mean the person is mentally unstable,that's absurd.

[Teak]

If you believe you have been exposed to HIV and want help to judge your risk, would like advice about HIV testing, or have questions about the effectiveness of condoms or risks associated with specific sexual practices, this is the site for you..

This person needs one on one counseling that cannot be provided on any forum.

[zamzam4]

Having has several private conversations with the poster and understanding just how much she fears HIV, how it is literally taking over her life and how she might get it i.e by pricking her finger with a lancet that was sent to her from a medical supplies company in the post I can say with total certaintly that yes she does need psychiatric evaluation.  She has expressed to me just how unbalanced she is and I do not take that lightly.  

When somebody makes it clear just how close to the edge they are they should not be told to test again which will only increase their fear.  They should be told to seek out help.  The poster has had several incidents since her first irrational concern that show she has an unhealthy fear of HIV.

If she tests again she will only be feeding this irrational fear.  

She is pregant and this high level of anxiety could not only have implications for herself but for her baby.  She needs an evaluation not ANOTHER HIV to add to the growing number that she has already taken.

[RainLover71]

That negative result she will receive in 2 weeks will put her fears regarding this incident behind her,if she doesn't have that test the anxiety will continue and will probably only get worse.This is one case where a negative test result will allow the OP to resume a normal life and then therapy may be considered.

[zamzam4]

There are several incidents not one so you clearly do not know the full history and therefore should not be commenting.

I think it is unfair to discuss this on her thread as all it will do is confuse her even more.

She can choose to take your advice or mine and teaks, that is up to her.  I have made my thoughts clear and do not think that her post should be hijacked because you are unhappy at being criticised.

Enough!

[RainLover71]

I have been talking to her for over a month and helping her through this very tough period in her life,I don't need your advice about this matter and I am not unhappy at all,infact I don't feel I have been criticised,please don't make false statements and stick to the matter at hand.I have not hijacked anyones post and I am fully entitled to have my say,it's a free world we live in.

[Teak]

She has also been advised in another forum that she has never had an exposure and did not need testing.

[LIZZIE LOU]

we have ALL been talking to her via pm...i know that i have over and over and over and over.

the above poster DOES need to seek out professional mental help.  her fears are not grounded and she is to the point that she cannot function.  regardless of how many times she has been reassured that she didn't have a risk...she is unable to accept this and continues with this irrational behavior.