Average HIV/AIDS lifespan

[bigdummy]

Man, I love when your around.

I know people can live 10 + years, but I not talking about extremes. Is there an AVERAGE a person with HIV who does not know they have the disease and has not sought treatment live? Or rather, how long can they go without getting so sick they end up going to a hospital and then find out they have HIV?

Do you think after 7 years a person would show any signs? A non-healthy person who eats bad, smokes and drinks a lot and doesnt excersise. So they are not in top shape to begin with.

thank you

[OrionQuest]

Hmmm, they say the average time from infection to clinical disease (not counting ARS) is 10 years.  But about life expectancy? Dunno.  Teak was okay for 21 years before he got sick.

[bigdummy]

Oh, and you could have answered my last question just to humor me.

[bigdummy]

Is this description of you accurate at all?????

You have to answer this for me. I have limited my contact with women
blonde
5ft 4inches
105lbs
34D-24-35

[bluebell81]

Here are my latest symptoms:

A feeling "down there" that something is not right
Slight pain in my neck lymph nodes
Digestive issues
SEVERE fatigue
Shoulder/Neck pain and headaches

[bigdummy]

I have all those symptoms. I swear since this there is something wrong with my feces. I don't mean to gross you out. But it smells a lot more. I ate a Burrito today, so I know that isn't going to be pretty.

[bluebell81]

I want to test so I know...but if its bad news, I will wish I never tested.

I am so scared.

And yes, that is crazy how you guessed the height. Maybe you can use your extra sensory powers to predict if I will test negative or positive?

[bluebell81]

No...you are not entirely accurate...the hair color and height are right...weight is about 120 and no, I dont have HUGE boobs...hope that helps ;)

[bluebell81]

105 lbs on 5'4" body would be skeletal....ewww

[bigdummy]

I haven't fully accepted my psychic ability yet. But I have a weird feeling that I have HIV. I'm convinced of it.

[bigdummy]

I just said 105 cuz usually thats what women want to hear. Man 5'4 just came to my mind I can't believe I was right about that. Sometimes it scares me when I guess something out of the blue.

This sh*t is destroying me. I notice every little tingle on my body. Ever new pimple or something, I just leave the house for food, then come back and spend the whole damn day on this damn computer. Its getting unbearable. I'm going to have to force myself to test. Atleast if I have it I know I want be just sitting on this cpu. Actually I wouldn't know what I'll do. It would really suck.

[bluebell81]

You dont have it. I can tell you that with my full confidence.

But if you have it, and I have it, we will join forces and go visit Teak and then take revenge on those that infected us

[bigdummy]

VENGEANCE WILL BE OURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VIVA EL TEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bluebell81]

lmao

[OrionQuest]

I'm glad that you guys are finally starting to find some humor in the situation.  Humor is a great compensatory mechanism.

[kimoz]

Lifespan? I've heard there are people living for over 28 years with the disease and still living fine today. Some don't make it that long though. And recently I've heard people who are infected today can be expected to live a normal lifespan, that could be over 39 years with the help of good medication? I don't really know, but let's say everyone is different, there are long term non progressor, and there are also some fast progressor too, and those who do smoke, drink alcohol and take drugs. So I would say it could be anything between 3 years to 39 years or more.

[OrionQuest]

Also, medicine now is better than medicine 10 years ago and medicine 10 years from now will be much better than it is today.

[bigdummy]

we find humor every now and then, but fear is still kicking humor's a$$

[orientatedx3]

The problem with "lifespan" guesses is that they are gestimates without reliable empirical evidence. I was diagnosed with organ involved systemic lupus 10 years ago and the "lifespan," at that time was 5-10 years.

It's. All. Bullsheet.

Why? Too many confounds. The first is pretty blatantly apparent and that is that they are counting the period from DIAGNOSIS to DEATH. So...that would mean if I didn't ever get diagnosed, or hadn't been diagnosed until...yesterday...that I would get another 5-10 years on top of what I've already got?

Nope.

See the problem? People will get tested/diagnosed at different stages of infection/disease. All of that basically negates the entire statistic, regardless of differences amongst people and their own health factors.

The other problem is exactly that. These diseases/infections are chronic and cover life-spans, life-spans of people who may or may not eventually succumb to any number of other naturally occuring diseases, with or WITHOUT that added complication.

There's also the problem of having skewed or constricted studies reported as Gospel by the mainstream media and even within medical communities. When I was first diagnosed I ran to medline and in an anxiety wrapped ball of fire devoured every abstract I could find. Of course the VERY FIRST ONE gave people with my type of SLE just 5 years to live.

It wasn't until I bothered to buy the actual research paper that I found that the sample consisted of 25 Danish men in their LATE SEVENTIES.

See what I mean? Confounds are everywhere. Simply take it day by day and don't get overwhelmed by numbers. As Orion said, medicine in constantly evolving. Many things that are inconveniences today would have killed us 30 or 40 years ago. The one constant seems to be that the earlier you are diagnosed with anything, and the better your medical care, health of lifestyle and outlook, the better your prognosis.

Peace & Out.