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HIV Prevention (Expert Forum)
Bad Lips Wet Panties CSW
Answered by
Edward W Hook, MD - HIV Prevention, stds
Bad Lips Wet Panties CSW
by XavierDeline, Oct 30, 2009 12:28AM
Ok, thank you doctor, for this service. I have used this website myself and I have become a believer. I am sending this question for a friend. No, I am not him. Due to his partner monitoring his credit card activities, I must post for him as a favor. He has a situation and I have tried to show him some examples of similar situations as of his on this website but he thinks his situation is unique.
To sum it up, his face and lips came in contact with moist/wet panties of a CSW while she "sat on his face"----during "facesitting." So she was wearing her panties when they indulged in this fetish of his.
His fear: His lips are almost always cracked up and he later realized that he had especially bad lips that day. He could see the "red flesh" from constantly biting his lips.
He is interested in knowing that if (hypothetically speaking) the CSW was infected with HIV, could a wound on his lips, through the exposure he describes, allow for HIV to be transmitted? Does he need any testing at all?
Your help is much appreciated.
To sum it up, his face and lips came in contact with moist/wet panties of a CSW while she "sat on his face"----during "facesitting." So she was wearing her panties when they indulged in this fetish of his.
His fear: His lips are almost always cracked up and he later realized that he had especially bad lips that day. He could see the "red flesh" from constantly biting his lips.
He is interested in knowing that if (hypothetically speaking) the CSW was infected with HIV, could a wound on his lips, through the exposure he describes, allow for HIV to be transmitted? Does he need any testing at all?
Your help is much appreciated.
Doctor's Answer
by Edward W Hook, MD, Oct 30, 2009 07:04AM
, Oct 30, 2009 07:04AM
Your friend has nothing to worry about and does not need to be testing. His exposure is a combination of two types of exposures which have never been associated with HIV transmission. Never twice is still never.
HIV is not transmitted through clothing, even wet clothing. The virus is exposure to the environment in the case of wet clothing and dies very quickly in the environment. Furthermore, your friend's thought that he might be at increased risk because of cracked lips is also faulty thinking. The quoted figure for HIV risk, if one has oral sex with an infected partner is less than 1 in 10,000 and, in my estimation that is too high. Some experts state there is no risk at all from oral sex. Neither of us on this site have ever seen or reading the medical literature of a convincing instance in which HIV was passed by oral sex. This includes by all of the people who had cracked lips, gum disease, etc.
Bottom line, the exposure you describe is no risk for HIV. Take care EWH
HIV is not transmitted through clothing, even wet clothing. The virus is exposure to the environment in the case of wet clothing and dies very quickly in the environment. Furthermore, your friend's thought that he might be at increased risk because of cracked lips is also faulty thinking. The quoted figure for HIV risk, if one has oral sex with an infected partner is less than 1 in 10,000 and, in my estimation that is too high. Some experts state there is no risk at all from oral sex. Neither of us on this site have ever seen or reading the medical literature of a convincing instance in which HIV was passed by oral sex. This includes by all of the people who had cracked lips, gum disease, etc.
Bottom line, the exposure you describe is no risk for HIV. Take care EWH
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Is it still a zero risk situation considering that in this particular incident there was no saliva involved--therefore no "enzymatic" properties to fight off a virus? There was direct contact with a wound. Sorry for doing this to you!