Distressed Dubai

[DistressedDude]

I contracted herpes simplex like 8 years earlier. On Sept 20th I had unprotected vaginal and oral (giving and receiving) vaginal intercourse lasted for like under 5 minutes. The lady is a Uzbekistani sex worker and has many clients. I was intoxicated when she climbed onto my penis whilst I had no condom on. I suppose the herpes I had was dormant and there were no visible cuts plus I poured some aftershave on my penis 2 hours later to kind of disinfect it and identify cuts or breaks on the skin via the stinging sensation one gets.

Basically I after 20 days on October 10th I went to my home country and did Elisa test for antibodies. The result came negative for HIV-1 & HIV- 2. During the test, I explained to the doc what happened and he prescribed a penicillin shot and  antibiotics. I didnt get the chance to get the medication as I was recalled to work in Dubai and I left on the first flight available.

After 12 days of my exposure, I developed a rash on my forearms, chancre on my penis head & a cold that persisted for 2 weeks. I had trouble swallowing coz of i think sores in my throat all the way down plus a rash on my lips the size of a dime. I also developed mouth ulcers.

After a respite of 2 weeks I developed a 2nd cold and an external left ear sore appeared. I felt pain when I yawn and when I feel my neck under the jaw there is a sharp oain. I also got a sore on the side of my tongue at the same time. I went to a doctor and he concluded that I have swollen neck glands and throat inflammation. He prescribed Zithromax (antibiotic) and ventolin.

The chancre is still there now and I am 45 days post exposure and the sore on the side of my tongue is still there though less painful.

I just wanna remind you that I cant risk losing my livelihood and do a test here or get the penicillin shot. But I'm planning to go to back home and do the tests. Complete tests for all known std's.

I wanna ask

1.  What are my chances with the 20day elisa test that I did?
2. Are my symptoms same as ARS?

What kind of hiv test should I go for as I get only 1 shot of doing it coz I cant get leave to go back home till after 10 months or so. I know its under the 3 month mark but is there any test like a combo?

What are my chances of hiv in numbers after the 20 day elisa.

P>S the test showed I had a high number of white blood cells and the doc said probably its for a reason like fighting infection.

Thank you all this forum is really helpful.

[Vance2335]

1. A test that early is really useless...3 months is conclusive
2. No because the majority of them don't even fall within the time frame and they are not ARS symptoms.

3 months with an antibody test. This is the only test and time that will give you a conclusive result.

[DistressedDude]

Thanks man

Two days ago was day 48 for me and I took the combo test (antibody and antigen) result was negative. According to Dr. HH, 6-8 weeks is good enough?

Remember I live in a country where I cant really take a chance to do test. I will be deported immediately without even being given a chance to pack.

Thanks for your response

[Teak]

There is NO TEST that is marketed or sold that will give a conclusive HIV test result earlier than 3 months.

[jmgarcia]

HIV Doctors MedHelp International, say that an HIV test DUO AB / AG, is 99,89% conclusive at 4 weeks.
HIV testing in France 4th Generation AB / AG, is 100% conclusive at 6 weeks, if its sensitivity is <50 mg / ml.
Here follow the CDC recommendations, which are very conservative, thirteen weeks.

[DistressedDude]

Thanks a lot for your responses. I'll update you guys on the outcome of antibody test if i get achance to do one.

I'm in trouble always when I use a condom with my wife.

She's suspicious of me (though rightly)

Wish me luck guys.

I am very optimistic after reading JM Garcia's response.

Thanks man.

PS

Has anyone ever heard of a 7 week negative result changing to positive in a healthy person with no previous history of chemo or immuno altering treatment regument at any given time?

[unwiseacts]

@ jmgarcia: The reason we use 3 months here, is because that is the point at which the tests' results are deemed conclusive.

@ Distressed: I don't say this to alarm you, so please don't be. But since you ask, yes, I do know someone who tested negative at the 6 week mark and went on to test positive at the 3 month test with confirmation afterword (or so he claims, anyway - he intended to test at 6 months also). I'm not sure how truthful this person was being, however. Bottom line, a 3 month antibody test will more accurately gauge your HIV status, so take the good advice given to you by Vance and Teak. Good luck to you.

[jmgarcia]

Una prueba de 4 ª generación Ab / Ag a las seis semanas es determinante para el francés, el Inglés para cuatro semanas.
Nadie que haya obtenido un resultado negativo de una prueba de cuarta generación en seis semanas, se ha convertido en positivo más tarde.
Una tercera prueba de la generación se considera fiable en un 99% en seis semanas, 1% podría seroconversión entre seis y doce semanas.

[DistressedDude]

To : JMGarcia

Sorry I didnt quite cath what you were saying. Could you post it in English Please.

To : unwiseacts

Thanks for the information. I got no way of testing again over here. So I think I'll take my chances anyway.

Good luck to you all and be safe too.

[dido2000]

Hello Distressed Dubai,

There is a private clinic in Dubai that does confidential tests...you can just give a fake name and they will send you the results the same day on your email. the clinic is in Al qusais 2 area first floor of the building of sunrise supermarket. opposit to Dubai grand hotel,... check this link http://www.stdclinicdubai.com/

[DistressedDude]

Thanks a million. I checked it out. Are their tests reliable? As in they dont just draw blood and send everyone a negative report?

Thanks all

[DistressedDude]

I think what I wanted to ask you is that Do they actually test the blood? Coz I'm thinking they said they take it to a diagnostic lab outside. Dont you think that when a positive result is confirmed then they are obliged by law to report to the authorities or else they risk getting their licence suspended.

[mike_no]

Hey Dubai-dude,

Okay, I have been watching this post today and couldn't resist posting.

1. You were tested on a IV gen Test, it packages AB and AG together. Now, I will get a little technical to explain you the effectiveness of this test - The average time to sero-convert is 7-14 days post exposure, 7 days post sero-conversion the AB is almost always detected, that sums up the whole math to 14+7 days = 21 days. Another 7 days of buffer and the IV gen test is at it's best now because if the body has already sero-converted the AB is detected and if the body is sero-converting the AG would be detected. In your case the AB detection was doing it's job but the AG was ineffective because AG at 42 days is practically impossible.In a nutshell, your test result is highly indicative and when you back your test with a final one a the 12th week you should only expect another negative.