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Elisa 2nd generation 6 week test

I'm a male and had sex with female(not anal), twice inbtwo days about six weeks ago.  I got a cold sore, had it before,and nasal congestion that lingered for a while, maybe it went away a little, but i cant remember with all the anxiety.  I remember getting sinuses after, mild cough and yellow mucus for two days.  I am a smoker and had these symtoms before when i cought the sinus.  My coworkers are also sick, but i felt like my symptoms took unusually longer   i also sweated at night after i first cought the cold and went into deep anxiety.  My sweating stopped after we both tested negative three weeks after exposure with anti body tests, , 2nd gen.  I tested again at six weeks, still negative   my symtomps are gone but i still have a little congestion and mucus.  How accurate are 2nd gen teats at six weeks?  My stomach has also rumbled more than i remember and i dont know if anxiety is doing this.  I have been waking upbwith dry mouth for about two weeks now, less dry when im calmer before bed.  Thank you in advance for your answers and time  
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Your negative is very indicative. Irrespective of the generation of the test at the 6th week, a negative is very unlikely to change ahead. I promise, your 12 week's going to be another negative.
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I got unprotected sex with csw before seven week I got rapid test by lab for antibody at 50 days this was negative what's the chances .
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YES it is.It's time to get on with your life now and stay off HIV forums.Goodbye.
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Got my 88th day rapid negative.  Is that conclusive?
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Guys, the clinic told me that my naat tested for 50 copies and it was highly sensitive, since it was negative, they said i would need to have developed  enough ab's to make it undetectable   so, the fact that i was negative at my 11th week ab with latest test, rapid blood test for abs, is that conclusive enough or should i take another ab in a week?
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Teak, I give you credit for going with the FDA approval.  I got my antibody, the latest testing equipment used, doctor said it detects people within 25 days of exposure, this was my 11th week and it showed negative.  I called the place that gave me the RNA/PCR and told them I would report them to the FDA for telling people 8 weeks RNA/PCR is conclusive, they didn't care about it.  It's sad that they can do that, a clinic that suppose to help manage the spread of this virus, but they pass false information.  I'm getting another AB test in two weeks to make it conclusive.  I wanted the latest FDA approved AB test at 11 weeks to put my mind to rest.  Even the doctor at the new clinic told me that NAAT RNA/PCR, unless they check for 20(can't remember the term) vs. 500, you could have 498 and still come out negative.  It was kind of scare to know these odds and why a clinic would claim a NAAT RNA/PCR conclusive at 8 weeks, really sad.  They said they tested over 10k people and no one showed positive AB's after 5 weeks of exposure and negative NAAT RNA/PCR.  Who knows, maybe the FDA won't approve it because of higher chances of false positives?  So I'm going strong with negative 3 week AB, negative 6 week ab, negative naat rna/pcr at 8 weeks and negative AB(latest generation) at 11weeks.  Wish me luck!  And thank you everyone for your support and comments.
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YOU don't pay attention. It's frustrating when YOU come here for help, we didn't go to YOU and you don't pay attention to the replies you were given and you continue to go on an on asking the same questions over and over after they have already been answered. You came here in March and have 67 posts. Had you paid attention to the first posts that you received there would have been no reason what so ever to drag this out.
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oops dont hate me :/ just saying.
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dont worry he did this to me before, left me confused then didn't answer lol. its very frustrating when all you want to do is finally shut your eyes and forget this.
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You probably should.
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Thanks, Teak, I'll do another antibody test next week to be sure.  I don't know why these free clinics would offer such tests or mislead the public?  I was told by a doctor and by a few of their workers that a NAAT test is extremely accurate and as good as an antibody test at 8 weeks.  That's the only reason why I took it.  I should report them to the FDA for false advertising.  
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No that is not what was said. What was said was a PCR-RNA test (NAT) has to be used in conjunction with an antibody test. A conclusive negative test result is an antibody test at 3 months post exposure as you were told days ago.
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Teak, I'm sorry, I'm just looking for clarity.  Are you saying that the NAAT PRC/RNA test I took, they also did the antibody?  Because I was told no antibody tests were done with it.  Also told that RNA/PCR test are 99 percent accurate after 4 weeks.  http://www.sfaetc.ucsf.edu/docs/CIDBranson.pdf
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I see where you're coming from.  You don't know the difference between a diagnosis test and the non-diagnosis RNA/PCR.  Thanks for the reply.  
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Are you even bothering to read the replies you have been given or are you posting to see yourself post. Viral load tests are given to diagnose HIV as you have been advised before.
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It's a non-diagnostic test, which I did two weeks after the antibody test.  The viral load increases in the first three months, no?  Isn't that how the antibody is produced?  So if the antibody is not there at six weeks and the virus isn't detected at 8 weeks, isn't that conclusive enough?  No arguing, just trying to gather facts.  
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Directly from the FDA and the manufacture. No one with the CDC told you that the PCR-RNA test was conclusive at 8 weeks. It's not even a standalone test. It's a supplemental test used in conjunction with an antibody test.
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I don't get it.  I spoke with a doctor and CDC rep, they both said RNA/PCR at 8 weeks is conclusive.  Where are you getting your sources?
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You are totally incorrect and you don't have a conclusive test result either. .
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Just wanted to thank everyone for their support and comments.  Turns out the LA Country does PCR/DNA and Antibody and my tests were done at 8 1/2 weeks negative.  The doctor told me the PCR/DNA test is highly accurate after 4 weeks and I wouldn't have to test again since I have negative antibody at 6 weeks, 8 weeks and negative PCR/DNA test.  He said the tests have been done in L.A. for over three years and accuracy is higher than 98.5 percent.  I lost weight, sweated at night, diagnosed mosquito bites as rashes, looked for rashes on my body for 6 weeks and diagnosed every single zit as a rash.  I also had dry mouth, frothy saliva, headache here, cold and sinus and anxiety dragged it and made these symptoms worse.  First lesson learned, always wear a condom.  Second lesson, stop being such a hypochondriac.  And third, never diagnose yourself with symptoms you research on Google.  Thank you everyone, for your support and comments.  I don't think a 12 week antibody is warranted, given my risk and the fact that the girl I tested with is negative.  I can finally sleep.  Thank you!  
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DNA tests are approved for monitoring patients, not diagnosis. What people do in the field of HIV testing is often different, and I have witnessed the doctors on this site state that the PCR-DNA tests are highly accurate, but this forum goes by the FDA approvals. I will say that with the combination of testing you already have, your chances of having HIV are infinitesimally small- not something that you need to worry about. HIV is not as easy to catch as you're making it out to be- almost everybody in your situation tests negative. Your reaction is way out of proportion to the actual risk involved.
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A NAT test is a PCR-RNA test not a PCR-DNA test. NAT tests are not standalone tests and have to be used in conjunction with an antibody test.
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I spoke with a counselor again, who stated the window period for NATT is 2-4 weeks, and testing for it anytime after is highly accurate.  I'm getting mixed answers on this and is causing more anxiety before I get my test results.  The girl I was with was negative 35 days after our exposure, I was negative 6 weeks after, I know the results are highly unlikely to change, but my anxiety due to a prolonged nasal congestion after I got the cold and sinus for a few days has made it worse.  Are you positive that a NAAT DNA/PCR test is not conclusive at 8 weeks?  Do you have any sources?  It's been 7 business days since my NAAT, still waiting for results.
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