HIV transmission risk

I was in China and I received a erotic massage and a hand job without, wearing a condom.  Is it possible to contract HIV?
Thanks Mike

[LIZZIE LOU]

i would assume that you know that hiv is transmitted through unprotected vaginal / anal intercourse...so how would getting a HANDJOB transmit hiv?

you had NO risk and do not need testing.

[sixxtall]

Lizzie,
I have take some time and read your profile.  I am sorry that my question seemed obvious to you and I can see why your response was short.  However you can read a lot of different things on the internet.  Some you can believe and some you can't.  I was just looking for some reasurance.  In your repsonse you indicated that HIV can only be transmitted through vaginal/anal intercourse.  Why do you feel there is no risk in oral sex?  I know that oral sex is not involved in my situation however your answer seems to discount the possiblity of HIV transmission this way.  Is there a reason you skipped over oral sex or was it that I just did not mention it?

Thanks
Mike

[avonelle38]

Yes, there is a lot of misleading and contradictory literature out there on the internet. This is because absolutely anyone in the world can write absolutely anything and post it absolutely anywhere they want.

However, the people on this forum such as Lizzie are very well educated on HIV and will not give you false information. Handjobs absolutely cannot transmit HIV. For transmission to occur, it must happen INSIDE of the body- i.e. with unprotected vaginal/anal sex.

There is no risk in oral sex because saliva is not infectious, and additionally, it has many different enzymes that render HIV useless and incapable of causing infection. Those who do say oral sex is a risk only say so because it is in THEORY only. It does not and cannot happen. If someone had a HUGE wound in their mouth with tons of fresh active bleeding, and then an HIV positive person placed their infected genital fluids into that wound and rubbed them in really good- then that is a risk. This is in THEORY. If someone had a wound like that in their mouth, would they be having oral sex? NO! But in THEORY- if that happened- infection could occur. Theoretical risks and reality based risks are 2 entirely different situations.

[LIZZIE LOU]

there are over a dozen different proteins and enzymes in saliva that render hiv unable to infect.
there have been numerous studies done on serodiscordant couples that prove hiv isnt transmitted by oral sex
there are no DOCUMENTED AND VERIFIED cases of transmission through oral sex

There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex.  The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way.  Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk".  There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANSFIELD

"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex.  Please educate yourself about the real risks.  If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. "   DR HANSFIELD

"I am sure you can find lots of people who belive that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..."   DR HOOK

"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK

in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?  
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA

The observation on thousand and thousand of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort).  DR. HOOK

[sixxtall]

Avonelle and Lizzie
Thank you both for your insights.  By looking at your profiles I can see you both spent a lot more time researching this topic than I. Since you both see to be able to back up your cases so well and seem to be willing to give straight answers which is nice for a change, maybe you can answer this.
People say in theory that HIV can be transmitted through a fresh cut or wound opening in the skin.  Can you clarify the term "fresh cut".  Does the cut needs to be bleeding?  Can it be 1 hr old? 6hrs?  3 days?  
Is fingering a woman with a small cut on your finger a safe activity?  The mans fingesr are going inside her is there not a possbility of transmission there (risk for both parties).
Again I am not trying to challenge your opinion, I am trying to learn and LIzzie you really seem to know your stuff.
Thanks again and have a good weekend.
Mike.

[avonelle38]

Cuts begin to heal IMMEDIATELY from the inside out, as soon as you receive the cut. This is why the skin is such an excellent barrier to foreign particles. A fresh cut means ACTIVELY bleeding. A cut that is even only 1 hour old has still had plenty of time to begin to heal, sealing it off.

Fingering is not a risk, even with small cuts on the fingers. There is no risk of transmission from this. You can rest assured that you were not placed at risk from this incident. I wouldn't lead you astray and would tell you if I believed you to have had a risk. You did not.

You're fine! =)