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Hiv exposure and frottage/rubbing
Hi. About three and half months ago I had unprotected insertive anal sex and afterwards got sick. I got tested at 14.5 weeks after the incident and tested negative. Like a week before I got tested though, to my own stupidity, I met up with an old friend one night. We weren't supposed to do anything but we did. =(
1. It started with me rubbing my penis between his buttocks. I did not penetrate him but I was thinking that maybe there may have been some cuts I didn't see or feel or accidental leakage from the anus that could have exposed me. My penis maybe rubbed the outside of his anus but he says I did not penetrate him. I am not circumcised so I was thinking that some types of fluids attached themeselves to the Langerin cells or something. =( How dangerous is this rubbing without penetration and is there a chance some fluids infected me?
2. Afterward we rubbed on each other on the belly, there was a bit of pre-ejaculate on his stomach, and then some on his stomach from me. I don't think our penis heads touched, but I was afraid some of his precum touched these langerin cells on my foreskin. Although I don't remember anything getting on me it may have occured without me noticing.
3. We also kissed for like 5 seconds, I had a kanker sore that had just healed, could anything have just gotten through that sore. As far as I know he didn't have any sores in his mouth.
4. Initially I was not worried about this, but now about 2 weeks after the incident I have noticed that I am trying to get a sore throat. That is an ARS symptom. At the same time there have been people sick at work, but I usually dont get sick that easy! I got my negative hiv test a week AFTER the incident.
How much at risk was I? He claims to be negative but then again I am suspicious.
1. It started with me rubbing my penis between his buttocks. I did not penetrate him but I was thinking that maybe there may have been some cuts I didn't see or feel or accidental leakage from the anus that could have exposed me. My penis maybe rubbed the outside of his anus but he says I did not penetrate him. I am not circumcised so I was thinking that some types of fluids attached themeselves to the Langerin cells or something. =( How dangerous is this rubbing without penetration and is there a chance some fluids infected me?
2. Afterward we rubbed on each other on the belly, there was a bit of pre-ejaculate on his stomach, and then some on his stomach from me. I don't think our penis heads touched, but I was afraid some of his precum touched these langerin cells on my foreskin. Although I don't remember anything getting on me it may have occured without me noticing.
3. We also kissed for like 5 seconds, I had a kanker sore that had just healed, could anything have just gotten through that sore. As far as I know he didn't have any sores in his mouth.
4. Initially I was not worried about this, but now about 2 weeks after the incident I have noticed that I am trying to get a sore throat. That is an ARS symptom. At the same time there have been people sick at work, but I usually dont get sick that easy! I got my negative hiv test a week AFTER the incident.
How much at risk was I? He claims to be negative but then again I am suspicious.
in the whole pandemic of hiv...there are no cases of someone being infected from frottage. do you think you are going to make history by doing so? NO
hiv is transmitted inside the body.
hiv is transmitted inside the body.
Thank you Kumar. Maybe I am over-reacting.
Thank you so much for the information. I am just a bit freaked out because despite JUST getting my hiv test results, that frottage experience was only a week away from my test. I freaked out also because I got a sore throat like 2 weeks later, which for some reason I expected. I don't get it though, if you don't mind me asking. They say that hiv can attach itself to the special immune cells in the foreskin because it is a mucuous membrane (?), but then I also read somewhere that the skin inside the foreskin is still too thick for hiv to infect from outside the body. Which is true? How fast does the virus die AFTER it's exposed to air? I heard it takes up to five minute, other places have said it dies the instant it is exposed. Or does it just cripple it's ability to transmit when it is exposed to air?
Also I have recently taken my temperature, and it is abnormally low. It's between 96 degrees and 97 orally, and is 97-98 rectally. I thought my sore throat would be accompanied by a fever, not a low temperature. Would acute hiv infection do this? If not what is usually the cause of a low temperature? I dont think it's EVER been this low!
Thank you so much for the information. I am just a bit freaked out because despite JUST getting my hiv test results, that frottage experience was only a week away from my test. I freaked out also because I got a sore throat like 2 weeks later, which for some reason I expected. I don't get it though, if you don't mind me asking. They say that hiv can attach itself to the special immune cells in the foreskin because it is a mucuous membrane (?), but then I also read somewhere that the skin inside the foreskin is still too thick for hiv to infect from outside the body. Which is true? How fast does the virus die AFTER it's exposed to air? I heard it takes up to five minute, other places have said it dies the instant it is exposed. Or does it just cripple it's ability to transmit when it is exposed to air?
Also I have recently taken my temperature, and it is abnormally low. It's between 96 degrees and 97 orally, and is 97-98 rectally. I thought my sore throat would be accompanied by a fever, not a low temperature. Would acute hiv infection do this? If not what is usually the cause of a low temperature? I dont think it's EVER been this low!
nope you cant get it by mutual masturbation..youre allright mate
forget about it and move on
forget about it and move on
Thank you so much for your respone. So I don't have to test for this situation (the 2nd incident)? Even though I have a sore throat two weeks after? Even though I am uncut and could have had exposure from the penis to penis contact, because our penises did rub together a bit? Am I over-reacting? From what I know I didn't get any of his pre-cum on me but I'm not sure.
I have read places that rubbing penises together, or one rubbing around the anus is not a risk, but how can that be if there are fluids? What if the precum touched the langerin cells in my foreskin? How is there no risk in frottage and mutual masturbation? I'm not trying to be annoying or anything but how is there no risk that I contracted anything?
I have read places that rubbing penises together, or one rubbing around the anus is not a risk, but how can that be if there are fluids? What if the precum touched the langerin cells in my foreskin? How is there no risk in frottage and mutual masturbation? I'm not trying to be annoying or anything but how is there no risk that I contracted anything?
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