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I think I have HIV!

Doctor H.H.H,  or Doctor Edward W Hook

I'm from Toronto, On, Canada. I've been dating this girl for 2 months and on April 20, 2012 as well as April 26, 2012 we had unprotected vaginal sex. About 10-14 days later I had a sore throat and joint(knee and elbow) and muscle pain and tongue kinda pale and white with one sore blister on the left side of inner mouth. I got a bit scared and the went into the walk in clinic as my family doctor was not available and the doctor in the walk in said I had mild swollen glands. But, when I went to my family doctor the very next day he's like I can't feel anything like swollen glands. He did a chlamydia and gonorrhea test, which both came back negative and gave me pills to take also for the chlamydia and gonorrhea just in case it came back positive. Mind you I heard your suppose to hold the urine an hour in before you pee in the sample cup, but, I probably only held it for half hour or so, do you think maybe that's the reason it came back negative? I asked both the doctors if I there was a high chance that I had caught HIV and they both different occasions they smiled and said they highly doubt it as it's very hard to catch. My question is my sore throat took two weeks to go away as it only takes 4-7 days usually, and I still have muscle and joint pain. And these are all the symptoms of acute HIV as I've read online. My family doctor said in one month I can do Hep A, B, and C and syphilis test but have to wait 3 months for HIV testing. I'm so paranoid! I asked the girl if she had anything she said she's recently been tested and her doctor said that if she had anything they will contact her, but, they haven't so far, And its been over a month and half, I mean I'd like to believe her but, I dunno why I just don't! Cause even our first time she wanted to do it without a condom. She has 3 kids with three different fathers and just by this behaviors she sounds promiscuous! I know I shouldn't say that, but, wow, I don't just sleep with anyone. Plus her kids are not with her, their with the fathers so it kinda made me think why doesn't she have custody of them. Anyways, I know that it's like 1/2000 from female to male or 1/1000 from male to female but, what if she was in the HIV window period and she didn't know? My chances are like 1/5 then because it's much likely to infect in the window period as it is to do after! Oh I hate myself right now! It's been almost a month since my last unprotected exposure and I haven't had any rash that I can tell, although my skin is a bit itchy and oily, and NO fever, my heads been a minor hot when I felt it here and there and then normal again, and now when I sleep I have minor night sweats. Maybe due to the weather change. I think I might have an enlarged spleen, because my left lower abdominal pains me here and there. Am I going crazy, I dunno! I read that most of your symptoms go away after two weeks. My sore throat and glands are gone, after 2 weeks. However, my family doctor confirmed that there were no swollen glands just sore throat. Mind you my friend had a cold and I could have very well caught it from him as I was eating at his place, but 24-48 hours later I caught a cold? And that was right at the 10-14 day mark after the unprotected exposure with the girl friend. I dunno how likely that is for a cold to come on that fast. Never the less, please help I'm driving myself nuts! 

I'm 27 turning 28 and straight(heterosexual), don't do any IV drugs or any drugs for that matter, and I asked her and she says neither does she and she's 24 years old by the way. I asked her if I should be concerned she's like your just being paranoid! Then why do  I have these symptoms, and they feel real! I apologies once again if I'm blowing this out of proportion. The only reason we had unprotected sex was because she told me she had gotten checked out and that she was clean!

 I feel like crying right now! Wow! I can't believe I felt for the "I'm clean line!". I'm so scared that my results are going to be positive when I do my test in 3 months. Someone help me! Btw it was only vaginal sex. No anal.
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I never said it was! But, we all have to go one day! No one gets out alive! But, your right, why jump into a flame of fire when you done need to!
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480448 tn?1426948538
I agree with Vance.  Not the place for conspiracy theories.

we are 9 percent away from a cure! It's around the corner,

If you believe that, you're naive.  Sure, people are living a lot longer with a better quality of life thanks to advances in medicine, but HIV is definitely no picnic.
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"just that the pharma companies won't let it happen for awhile!"-not the play for theories like that. Move on.
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Guys and gals, why has this started into a debate? Lol. I'm
Done searching the net! I care less, listen people with HIV live a normal life with all the meds out there. And I'm sure in couple of years they will find something, just like when they found a vaccine that worked 30 percent against the virus, now 4 years later the same vaccine is working 91 percent better, we are 9 percent away from a cure! It's around the corner, just that the pharma companies won't let it happen for awhile!  
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Like I said "all websites" have people that give out incorrect information.
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Thats true but If you look at all the HIV forums out there Medhelp and Aids Meds are the most consistent and accurate,where the others are not.The body.com is confusing everyone with their inconsistent information.
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Fact is, no matter what website you go to, there will be people there that will give out incorrect information.
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Look,we all know the official--conclusive HIV window period is 3 months post-exposure and has been since 2004 and we all know the special circumstances that might extend this time frame so any doctor that advises his patients to test longer knows nothing about HIV window periods and is living in the past,I'm sorry but that's just a fact.
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I think the cause of all this HIV related anxiety is from inconsistent websites that aren't helping anyone,the body.com is one that makes people panic without reason with their 6 month window period for ALL exposures and there view that oral sex is a low risk activity for HIV transmission and lets not for get this classic,that HIV can survive when frozen for years and then defrosted be infectious again--Total crap.
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480448 tn?1426948538
HUH?  You misread my post.

T"he info out there that is accurate serves an excellent purpose, because education IS needed.  People just have to know when enough is enough.  "

I said, the info out there THAT IS ACCURATE.  Of course there is always going to be crap, that's the internet.  WHICH is another great reason people should not continue to google.  I'm not saying that people shouldh't search for info, but they should do so within reason.  They are on their computers 24/7.

Snake pit was a great analogy, I use it all the time.  If you are fearful of snakes, it would help you to learn a little bit about them, but not throw yourself in a pit day after day.

As for banning the garbage sites or incorrect info, it would never happen.  Not on the internet.  Too much out there, not enough people to "police" and verify info. ANY topic in the world, you will find loads of garbage on the web about it.  That's just life.  So, people come here, we set them straight...they continue to find crap and ask more questions.  Seems a bit counterproductive, no?  Heck, people are so inthralled with wikipedia....most of their info is incorrect and never verified.  And thats a reputable site!

As for the 6 month window period thing that you seem to have such an issue with.  Not every doctor is a moron (or any other name you want to call him/her) based on the advice they give.  You simply can not know all of the circumstances behind why that advice was given.  Yes, 6 months is outdated, and eventually most people will catch up in their advice, but this is typical to see when a guideline has been changed.  You can't assume in every case that the doctor is awful, or knows nothing.  That doesn't really help either, because many of these doctors are the OP's lifelong PCPs and you're diminishing their trust in them by being so abrasive about it.  Sorry, just my opinion, but that irks me.  I think giving the proper info is what matters, not putting down every medical professional who gives advice we may agree with (with the exception of the really obvious nonsense...like docs who will tell a pt it will take years...that kind of crap).  It's just as easy to tell someone that not all docs are up to date with the newer guidelines, or that they are conservative, instead of bashing them.

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It's 2012 now and outdated information serves no purpose.How many people have committed suicide over the 6 month window period because they couldn't wait out the time when they never needed to.Do you know how many doctors still tell posters to test out to 6 months--many of them.You tell me not to post things that happen in the media like the other day yet you seem to be always avoiding this issue.The statement you made about the snakes is not the same thing because it's human nature to search for information when you are worried and lets face it have you read some of those websites,they say to test out to a year or than ear wax contains HIV--please.What about other HIV forums where I read recently a commment where a poster asked a question and the response was if you contract HIV you will be dead in a year and the list goes on,really when will this end.
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480448 tn?1426948538
Banned?  Come on...it's called self control.  If you had a severe phobia of snakes, are you going to throw yourself into a snake pit day after day and then demand that all snakes be banned?  That's just ridiculous.

The info out there that is accurate serves an excellent purpose, because education IS needed.  People just have to know when enough is enough.  

OP...the best thing you can do is keep yourself busy and your mind distracted.  Seriously, do NOT continue to google and search the web.  You are only going to fuel your anxiety.

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All the best to you then.
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Never the less, I'll still get tested in 2 months now, got me chewing my finger nails! I dunno why my symptoms are acting up! Oh well doctor time Saturday! I have to do my hep a, B and C also mono check! I wish I wasn't such an hypercondriac!
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True brother and those websites should be banned and not allowed to post such garbage.
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I dunno man, it's the damn net! It's gotten all of us to read into symptoms!
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Why do 99% of posters go by symptoms when they never diagnose HIV.They only diagnosed AIDS back in the early 80's when people had KS. and there was no HIV test.
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Well yes it is. Damn this sore throat hasn't gone away it's been 2 and half weeks! And muscle pain. Lol. I can swear I'm convinced I'm infected.
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It's a waiting game anyway because a conclusive negative test is 3 months post exposure.
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Ok,it's up to you but a DUO is 99.8% reliable and thats a fact.It's a waiting game now.
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Rainlover: I'll just wait 3 months to do a test. As our tests and doctors are free in Canada. Our meds were free too, but, that changed about 20 years ago I think. But, doctors are free and all the testing are free too. But, let's say a DUO test is not covered as it's private test. But, thank you for your concern. See, who knows maybe she can be telling the truth, or maybe not. But, we as humans have to have some trust in people.
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164 dollars verses a test that is one third of that. It's a waste of money.
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But the exposures where the 20th & 26th of april which is 4 and 5 weeks respectively.
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He's beyond the benefit of an DUO test and it would be a waste of money to take a DUO test at this time.
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