Not just another fingering question

Hello,

I went to a massage place and got a handjob but during the handy I fingered the girl..this was on 3 different occasions.  The only issue I have is that I am a nail biter and I had biten my nail earlier and took some skin off the corner...It was not bleeding at the time as I am sure I would have noticed it but after the incident I gave it a good squeeze and a bit of blood came from the cut....

The cut was on my ring finger so obviously it was not inserted in the vagina but it could of touched fluids as she was quite wet...My questions are below..

1)  Is fingering a risk with a cut as I describe? If not what kind of cut would be an issue?

2) Does regular vaginal fluid contain HIV or is it just far up in the cervix?

3)  I had a bit of a rash on both sides of my stomach that I noticed on the flight home from China...It looked like heat rash but it went away within 4 hours...does this seem like the HIV ARS rash?  If not can you explain?  As I mentioned it was gone after I woke up...4-5 hours after I noticed it..

thanks.

[joggen]

You were not at risk for fingering regardless of any wound you may have had. You do not need HIV testing.

[thumbplaza]

Do you agree with this reply?  If you do please explain why this is not a risk?

[thumbplaza]

Can I please get your opinion?...I am freaking out

[upstateny123]

not a risk bud. If fingering were a risk, imagine how many people would be infected.

[Teak]

As you were already advised by joggen you were never at risk of contracting HIV.

[thumbplaza]

I just want to hear the scientific reason from Teak....I may be behind in times but I think cut, fluids = possible infection...I am curious to find out why this is not so

[Teak]

by H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D., Oct 09, 2007 10:54AM
There is no measurable risk of HIV transmission from fingering or any sort of hand-genital contact, regardless of healing cuts on the fingers.

Best wishes--  HHH, MD

by H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D., Dec 08, 2009 07:43PM
You already know what I'm going to say, as indicated by "I have read this is no risk on this site".  Did you think I or Dr. Hook would change our minds for your particular question?  Even if one can envision a theoretical risk from fingering, in the 30 years of the known worldwide HIV/AIDS epidemic, nobody is known to have been infected by hand-genital or hand-anal contact. For more detailed discussions, enter "fingering" in this forum's search function and read through the nearly 1,000 threads that will show up.

Regards--  HHH, MD

by H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D., Feb 25, 2009 10:52AM
You asked a similar question in the HIV communty forum 2 years ago, and had a negative HIV test back then, and had an accurate reply about the zero-risk nature of the exposure.  The reply is the same this time.  Even with an HIV positive partner, nobody in the world ever caught HIV by fingering, regardless of nicks or cuts on the fingers; and the odds the stripper has HIV are low.

You could not have been infected and do not need HIV testing on account of this even.  Unless, of course, you don't believe this reassurance and need the additional evidence of a negative test to help you sleep better.  If so, have a test in a few weeks.  (This is not "code" that means I really think there was some risk.  There was none.)

Regards--  HHH, MD

by Edward W Hook, MD, Feb 11, 2010 07:29PM
Welcome to the Forum.  You have nothing to worry about from this exposure.  For starters, it is statistically unlikely that your partner had HIV.  Most dancers and commercial sex workers do not.  Furthermore, HIV is not spread through kissing, including french kissing.  finally, your insertion of your finger into her anus, and her subsequent sucking on your finger is masturbation and /HIV is not spread by masturbation either.  Thus you need not be concerned.  As far as your specific questions are concerned:

1.  No
2.  No
3. There is no medical reason for you to seek HIV testing.  If you cannot shake the idea and your concern, then a single test at 6-8 weeks following the events you describe will be negative and will prove that you did not get HIV (I already know that you did not).
4.  Nope

Hope these responses are helpful to you.  Take care.  EWH

[thumbplaza]

Thanks a bunch Teak...as a very knowledgeable person on HIV do you agree there is no risk even with a cut on your finger.

Also keep in mind the finger with the cut never went in the vagina...it was only around the area with possible contact.  Would this scenerio fall under the "HIV does not infect outside the host" theory?

I hate to be a bother but I just need to make sure that I did not put my self at risk...I have always been very careful and pride myself on this but this situation just caught me by surprise as I never noticed this cut...it was probably done earlier in the day...

Also as a medic...can you give me some info on how long a ut takes to close...I have read it closes almost imediatly?  I assue it bled as I squeezed it and broke the scab..

Thanks and this will be the last question...thanks.

[thumbplaza]

sorry forgot to ask about the rash thing I had on the flight home....is it possible that an ARS rash could come and go within a 12 hour period?

Also I had no fever...is a fever always present with ARS

[Teak]

NO.

[thumbplaza]

"NO" to the fever is always present or "NO" to the rash cannot come and go?

[RobertToms8822]

(1) ARS Symptoms do not come and go, (2) You had NO RISK PERIOD!!  Move on....