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Oral sex 6week negative
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Please can you put my mind at rest I went to a strip club before Christmas the stripper did her show then ended up unzipping my pants and performing oral sex for 2 mins most I was drunk when I realised what was happening I pushed her off and walked out .that night drunk I slept with my misses
Woke up and realised what had happened for a week it ate away at me i didnt eat didnt go out.
I'm Engadged I ended up telling her couldn't look at her .
I was scared I could have given her a std I got one of the cheap home std test kits for her to do it came back saying she had chlymidia so I got the treatment for her only
I went and got test at gum clinic it came back we didn't have a std the test was wrong but while I was there the nurse mentioned a hiv test I said why ?
She replied because you can catch it from oral i got tested but she said it wouldnt cover me for what had happened as it was only 2 week after .
So I went a horrible mental state for 4 weeks scared to test I didn't eat didn't go out lost 2 stone I finally went for a test at 6 weeks a diffrent private clinc in Manchester it came back negative . In the middle of all this we found out she was pregant
All I keep thinking is she was touching her self deep then straight away touched my penis could she have put viganal fluid in my uretha ?
Also the oral bit I know its never been passed but I can't stop thinking the worst ?
It's now 2.5 months and I'm worring if I have the littlest sore neck or prickly heat when I was on holiday or felling hot inside makes it all come back and worry again
Don't think it helps because I'm worried I might have caused her to get it and the baby !
Please help ASAP
Please can you put my mind at rest I went to a strip club before Christmas the stripper did her show then ended up unzipping my pants and performing oral sex for 2 mins most I was drunk when I realised what was happening I pushed her off and walked out .that night drunk I slept with my misses
Woke up and realised what had happened for a week it ate away at me i didnt eat didnt go out.
I'm Engadged I ended up telling her couldn't look at her .
I was scared I could have given her a std I got one of the cheap home std test kits for her to do it came back saying she had chlymidia so I got the treatment for her only
I went and got test at gum clinic it came back we didn't have a std the test was wrong but while I was there the nurse mentioned a hiv test I said why ?
She replied because you can catch it from oral i got tested but she said it wouldnt cover me for what had happened as it was only 2 week after .
So I went a horrible mental state for 4 weeks scared to test I didn't eat didn't go out lost 2 stone I finally went for a test at 6 weeks a diffrent private clinc in Manchester it came back negative . In the middle of all this we found out she was pregant
All I keep thinking is she was touching her self deep then straight away touched my penis could she have put viganal fluid in my uretha ?
Also the oral bit I know its never been passed but I can't stop thinking the worst ?
It's now 2.5 months and I'm worring if I have the littlest sore neck or prickly heat when I was on holiday or felling hot inside makes it all come back and worry again
Don't think it helps because I'm worried I might have caused her to get it and the baby !
Please help ASAP
Teak won't answer any more I see u have posted In anxiety I will speak with u there as its ur anxiety not hiv
Teak do you think I need to change forums and go to anxiety instead of wasting your time asking the same thing ?
Teak thankyou for taking the time to explain all this .
When I said to the NHS nurse she touched her self first then me she said this could have transmitted it to me ? If this isn't possible why why agian would some one put this into some ones head if there supposed to be trained and read the same data etc ?
She could have had a death on her hands because that how low I've got over this !
When I said to the NHS nurse she touched her self first then me she said this could have transmitted it to me ? If this isn't possible why why agian would some one put this into some ones head if there supposed to be trained and read the same data etc ?
She could have had a death on her hands because that how low I've got over this !
No incident HIV infections among MSM who practice exclusively oral sex.
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States
Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228
AIDS: Volume 16(17) 22 November 2002 pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men
Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.
Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:
Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117
Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;
Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.
There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex. The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way. Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk". There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANSFIELD
"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Please educate yourself about the real risks. If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. " DR HANSFIELD
"I am sure you can find lots of people who believe that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..." DR HOOK
"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK
in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA
"HIV is not spread by masturbation, through oral sex, through kissing or other casual contact." Dr. Hook
"The observation on thousands and thousands of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort)." DR HOOK
"I would not say your risk ,if he had HIV is "slim to none"- that's too high. I would say they are effectively zero. How much of his ejaculate or other genital secretions you may have swallowed makes no difference. EWH "
"As far as HIV is concerned, there is no known risk of getting HIV from performing oral sex on an infected partner, even if that person's genital secretions get into your eyes or if you swallow." Dr.Hook
HIV is not spread by oral sex, giving or receiving, even if sores, gum disease or blood is present
DR HOOK
The fact is that there are no cases in which HIV has been proven to be transmitted by oral sex, including fellatio.. EWH
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States
Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228
AIDS: Volume 16(17) 22 November 2002 pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men
Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.
Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:
Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117
Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;
Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.
There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex. The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way. Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk". There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANSFIELD
"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Please educate yourself about the real risks. If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. " DR HANSFIELD
"I am sure you can find lots of people who believe that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..." DR HOOK
"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK
in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA
"HIV is not spread by masturbation, through oral sex, through kissing or other casual contact." Dr. Hook
"The observation on thousands and thousands of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort)." DR HOOK
"I would not say your risk ,if he had HIV is "slim to none"- that's too high. I would say they are effectively zero. How much of his ejaculate or other genital secretions you may have swallowed makes no difference. EWH "
"As far as HIV is concerned, there is no known risk of getting HIV from performing oral sex on an infected partner, even if that person's genital secretions get into your eyes or if you swallow." Dr.Hook
HIV is not spread by oral sex, giving or receiving, even if sores, gum disease or blood is present
DR HOOK
The fact is that there are no cases in which HIV has been proven to be transmitted by oral sex, including fellatio.. EWH
Some one needs to educate that Nhs nurse because even though you experts are telling me its still there that a Nhs nurse said its possible ?
HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions; therefore, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host.
HIV is transmitted by;
Unprotected penetrative anal and/or vaginal sex
Sharing works with other IV drug users
Mother to child
HIV is transmitted by;
Unprotected penetrative anal and/or vaginal sex
Sharing works with other IV drug users
Mother to child
Sorry to keep posting but I want to sleep well tonight and not dread it every time my misses has a pregnancy blood test I want to enjoy having a baby not dread it .
Can you catch it from viginal fluid contact with uretha ?
Can you catch it from viginal fluid contact with uretha ?
by Emily_MHModerator,
And to clarify, it is this site's stance, based on studies and our own MedHelp experts (all of whom are world-renowned for their work in this field), that oral sex carries no risk for HIV.
Emily
And to clarify, it is this site's stance, based on studies and our own MedHelp experts (all of whom are world-renowned for their work in this field), that oral sex carries no risk for HIV.
Emily
Teak please could I Ask what your back ground is in hiv ?
Why the hell are supposed specialists at Nhs clinics telling people stuff when its not true ?
Why the hell are supposed specialists at Nhs clinics telling people stuff when its not true ?
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