Pre Come... Whats your thoughts?

I was just wondering what everyone thought about pre come. For heterosexual vagina sex do you guys think pre come is not that high risk or high risk?  

And what about pre come during oral?

[Teak]

Precum can has enough virus to casuse infections and the the higher the VL of your partner the greater the chance. Oral you weren't at risk.

[whyagaintome]

Teak, How to you feel about pre come inside a condom that breaks on the side of the shaft during vaginal sex?

Or pre come on boxers that was rubbed on a vagina?

[Brian123]

1st incident.....low

2nd incident....non-existent.


Dr. Bob @ the body.com stated:

"Regarding pre-***, the HIV viral load is significantly less than what is found in ejaculate."

[Teak]

I concur with Brian's post.

[pretty_scared_tx]

how often do you think pre ejaculate is the cause of infection?

[Brian123]

much more rare than full ejaculation...that is for sure.

for percentages....nobody knows for sure.

[whyagaintome]

when is the VL high? if someone was tested at 6 weeks and neg, but really is positive just not enough anitbodies yet, do they have a high VL or a low one since they are newly infected?

[Brian123]

most people, when they first get infected, usually have very high viral loads.
But remember, an antibody test looks for antibodies,....not the virus.

The thread of PCR DNA/RNA is what we were talking about when the tests look for the virus.
These tests are tests given to people who are currently infected with HIV and need to know their viral load.

If you are at the 6 week mark, it is without a doubt to get tested with an antibody test at that point.

B.

[whyagaintome]

A negative 6 week antibody test is a good indicator then i suppose because by then you should have some anitbodies

[Brian123]

yes...it is believed by 6 weeks that an HIV antibody test is approx. 95% accurate.

[o_g]

Some antibodies are there by 2-3 weeks. By 6 weeks, in majority of people, antibodies reach to a level where they can be detected by standard ELISA

[Brian123]

Furthermore....just for "guesstimation"

that remains "roughly" 5%...right?

Now,
let's "Assume" 1/300 people have HIV  (.003)
let's "Assume" 1/2,000 risk assesment (one -time risk) (.0005)

.003 x .0005= .0000015 =   1 out of 1.5 million chance.

Basically ....ZERO.

That does not include other variables such as tearing, etc...

[whyagaintome]

Thanks for the clarification.  I think I'm in the clear. I had my partner get tested at 6 weeks he was neg, and I tested at about 2 days shy of 6 weeks and was in the clear. We had a condom break during heterosexual vag sex.

[Brian123]

sweetheart,

your fine.

move on.

always keep the condoms handy!

B.