Rare case of hiv

[needhelponhiv]

Is there any possibility where hiv antibodies are not detectable and even the hiv dna ?
I had my 3 months hiv profile test(4th generation + dna pcr) twice at 10 and 12 weeks and both came negative. I have gone through many posts here and everyone saying 3 months antibodies test is conclusive but there are many who have posted here in same forum about testing positive after 3 months negative. Very confused. Please help me.

[Emily_MHManager]

We are closing this thread. Your questions have been answered thoroughly, and you have been told that you had no risk and no need to test.

Take care,

Emily

[needhelponhiv]

Thanks all for your replies. Just to give rest to my worries  I want to do a final PCR test again. I already did DNA PCR twice with negative results. Which one is better PCR DNA or RNA in terms of accuracy?

Costwise RNA is more costly. Please suggest

[needhelponhiv]

It a protected sex with a csw but while removing condom I think some vaginal fluid touched the tip if penis(not foreskin).

[LRossi]

HIV is an extremely fragile organism. It dies almost instantly when in contact with airi, it loses its possibility to contaminate. If this wasn't the case, HIV would be a lot more common than it is... If you had protected sex, you are not at risk.

[AnxiousNoMore]

So all the tests were needless since you couldn't have it. Time to relax and move on with your life instead of what you have been putting yourself through. All your symptoms will disappear,otherwise see a doctor.


Your "senior" doctor doesn't sound like he is useful if he didn't even figure out you can't have HIV, so no need to dwell on any more of his comments either.

[needhelponhiv]

Thanks. Symptoms for sure are not reliable but are these results 100% conclusive. Still CDC site says 6 months( first testing within 3 months and then 3 more months for 2nd testing).
The doctor I am going to is a very senior doctor and he told me that until 1 year you cannot be sure even if PCR  is negative. Listening different informations makes me worry.

[AnxiousNoMore]

You never explained what act you did that you think was risky, so can you do that now?

[LRossi]

Completely untrue....
CDC website (which is overly conservative) confirms that a 4th generation is conclusive at 6 weeks. Most experts now agree that it is conclusive at 4 months.

[needhelponhiv]

Can you please pass me the link where they say this. I hope you understand the anxiety of a person before giving any information like this.

[LRossi]

http://www.cdc.gov/actagainstaids/basics/testing.html

In section, "What kinds of tests are available, and how do they work?". See subsection 2.

[Chima7]

True HIV symptoms are only present from 2-4 weeks after an infection. Furthermore, not everyone who gets infected has symptoms anyway. Therefore, any symptoms you are having this long after your perceived risk are not related.

More than that, the only way HIV is diagnosed is by risk factor and HIV test results. No HIV doctor ever diagnoses an infection based on symptoms. For all of the reasons I've described, your symptoms are therefore irrelevant.

[AnxiousNoMore]

It is possible that needhelp has picked up some condition causing his symptoms, but he would need to see a doctor for a diagnosis.

HOWEVER, the symptoms are almost 100% guaranteed to be all in his head caused by fear making him panicky, over-analyzing everything he notices in his body and thinking something is wrong. Everyone experiences burning, twitches, itches, ouches, cramps etc  once in a while, but ignores them
because they know there is no meaning. Try to relax but if you can't you need to see a therapist or your doctor, because no one on an HIV forum can diagnose you from here.

[needhelponhiv]

I never wanted to mention the symptoms coz it is non-specific but for the first time in my life I am facing this. All neuropathy related symptoms, cramps in leg, burnong sensation in feet and leg, extreme body twitching etc.
Can this really be anxiety? After seeing these results I was very happy but still these symptoms which started at 6-7 weeks are present and increasing day by day.

[AnxiousNoMore]

" posted here in same forum about testing positive after 3 months negative. "
You must be mistaken. If negative, then you can't be positive and there would be no purpose in testing. It is time to enjoy your life, instead of worrying about catching something that you don't have.