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Should I worry about HIV

Dears,

I'm a single heterosexual man and I had protected sexual encounters with 10 sex workers in brothels over the course of 2 years (Prostituition is illegal where I live).

P.S. I had multiple encounters with some of the sex workers. Thus, increasing my sexual encounters to around 20 in 2 years.

All encounters were protected vaginal intercourse and I had unprotected oral sex 2 times (2 Insertive fellatio & 2 cunilingus).

My final exposure was also protected but when I withdrew I found the condom was covering the head of my penis only (I remember it was so loose that as soon as I touched it, it fell directly off my penis).

My questions are as follows:

1) Assuming some of the sex workers were HIV positive, Did I ever put myself at risk for HIV infection with all the above sexual encounters ?

2) Did my final exposure qualify as a condom failure and did I have an HIV risk from it ?

3) If I had an undiagnosed STD (gonorrhea or chlamydia) from the oral sex recieved before, afterwards I had all those protected encounters later, did I increase my risk for HIV (especially in my final exposure) ?

4) Do I need to test for HIV or I am safe ?

Thanks
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Thank you for your time and quick answer,

I wish all you the best :)
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You didn't have an exposure. Next time hold onto the ring of the condom when withdrawing.
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thanks for the quick reply, however I wasn't asking about oral sex and HIV.

My question was:

To qualify as a slipped condom, the condom needs to stay inside the woman's vagina.
If the condom went out of the vagina with me on withdrawal but fell directly off my penis outside, does this qualify as a slipped condom too, do I have any HIV risk?

I will ask the STD questions on the STD forum, thanks for your understanding
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HIV is not transmitted by oral sex. Your STD questions need to be posted in the STD forum.
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Dear Lizzie,

Just a small update about my final exposure and the fact that when I withdrew I found the condom was covering the head of my penis only (I remember it was so loose that as soon as I withdrew it fell directly off my penis).

My question are:

1) If I had an undiagnosed STD (gonorrhea or chlamydia) from the oral sex recieved before did the final exposure qualify as a risk for HIV ?

2) Since the condom came out with me upon withdrawal, then there is no risk whatsoever from HIV right? (To qualify as a slipped condom it needs to come off inside the vagina and not outside of it, right?) I'm asking this question because I'm starting to doubt that although the condom came out with me, is it possible that some of the penis head was exposed inside her?

3) Finally aside from HIV, do you think the last exposure could have carried a risk for other STDs?

Thank you for your time,
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I stand humbly corrected.

I appreciate the amount of time it took you to compile all of the above -- it is a big undertaking, and I completely understand why you did it.

The last thing I want to do is to spread misinformation or cause people to worry and freak out more than necessary -- where no worry is called for at all.

As someone who is upset and worried about HIV in a scenario where multiple people have told me the risk is nonexistent, I do not take lightly that my incorrect opinion about transmission from oral sex (something I truly believed possible if unlikely) could cause someone in a state of irrational, intense anxiety any additional pain,

pls accept my apologies.  and thank you for all the efforts to address people's concerns and education and awareness.
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186166 tn?1385259382
FROM THE HIV EXPERTS HERE AT MEDHELP:

"As you know from other posts about oral sex, our stance is that giving or receiving oral sex is not a risk for HIV.  Some others suggest that there is an appreciable risk of HIV from oral sex however, there are no convincing scientific reports which support these statements.  The presence of a burn in your mouth, or a sore, or ingestion of blood does not change this.  Still no risk an no reason for testing."  DR HOOK

"As far as HIV is concerned, there is no known risk of getting HIV from performing oral sex on an infected partner, even if that person's genital secretions get into your eyes or if you swallow"  DR HOOK

There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex.  The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way.  Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk".  There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANDSFIELD

"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex.  Please educate yourself about the real risks.  If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. "   DR HANDSFIELD

"I am sure you can find lots of people who belive that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..."   DR HOOK

"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK

in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?  
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA

The observation on thousand and thousand of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort).  DR. HOOK

"With regard to the question you ask, I will repeat, as I’ve said more times than I can think- there are NO credible cases in which persons have acquired HIV through performance of oral sex- none!!.  The chance that you will be the first is ridiculously low.  You are more likely to be hit by lightening while reading my reply to you. DR HOOK

"HIV is not spread by masturbation, through oral sex, through kissing or other casual contact." DR HOOK

"There is no credible evidence that HIV is spread through oral sex, with or without the presence of cuts or blood in the persons mouth."- DR HOOK

"Oral sex. there is no evidence that HIV is spread through giving or receiving oral sex"- DR HOOK

"HIV is not spread through oral sex."  DR HOOK

"HIV is not spread through giving or receiving oral sex"   DR HOOK
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afraidofrisk, I'm sorry but I have to respectfully disagree that you have 0 risk of HIV exposure.  

Of course, using condoms is critical, and lessens any risk of exposure, there is no zero risk of exposure - and unprotected oral sex (i.e., no condom used during fellatio and no dental dam during cunnilingus) carries KNOWN risk - the risk is very small, and the law of probabilities is decidedly in your favor - but the risk is not zero.

Therefore - please do get an HIV test to confirm - out of fairness to your new partner, and for your own physical and mental well-being.  If your last encounter with a sex worker was 6 months ago, you can feel assured that your test result will be 100% accurate.  It is the only way that you can be sure and certain.
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Thanks so much for your time

Guys your contributions are truly Appreciated and i would really like to thank you for all the time and energy that you put in this forum responding to our questions.

I wish you all the best from all my heart.

Regards,
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186166 tn?1385259382
you never had a risk
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Huge thanks for the quick reply

So even if some of the workers were hiv+, i was not at risk due to the condom use.
The reason i asked is because i met a new girl and i was afraid to take my relationship further with her.

Based on the review provided, then its ok to proceed with my relationship right?

Thanks
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186166 tn?1385259382
NOTHING that you have described put you at risk.

protected sex = safe sex
as long as the head of "mr willie" was covered, you were protected

hiv is not transmitted through oral sex

KUDOS for using condoms ! ! !
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