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If the symptoms in a person are not coming one at a time are prolonging more than 2 weeks from the start . Is it a sign that the symptoms are not due to hiv
Read over this health page I created, as it goes into a lot more detail explaining why we continue to advise that oral sex is no risk...
http://www.medhelp.org/health_pages/HIV/HIV-AND-ORAL-SEX-THE-FACTS/show/1278?cid=68
http://www.medhelp.org/health_pages/HIV/HIV-AND-ORAL-SEX-THE-FACTS/show/1278?cid=68
You're overanalyzing your "symptoms".
To start, WHEN TRUE ARS occurs (because like teak said, some newly infected people will have symptoms, and plenty other never have a one)...it's something that occurs all at once.
A "syndrome" means a group of symptoms, not one here, one there. TRUE ARS would present with an onset of a very high fever (usually over 101F), a non itchy rash, and sometimes swollen lymph nodes (multiple locations, not just one) and a sore throat. Those are the symptoms that are most commonly seen in people who have been newly diagnosed. They occur all together and all at once, it's not something you'd miss. The onset is 2-4 weeks after exposure, with the symptoms lasting 1-2 weeks. Someone with TRUE ARS will be very sick.
Bottom line is, you never had a risk. You have to put other people's comments (like the docs here) into perspective. Them saying that oral carries a negligible or low risk is really no different than us saying "no" risk, it's just semantics. The docs have said time and time again that in THEIR opinion, oral sex is NOT a concern.
Time to put this behind you and move along.
To start, WHEN TRUE ARS occurs (because like teak said, some newly infected people will have symptoms, and plenty other never have a one)...it's something that occurs all at once.
A "syndrome" means a group of symptoms, not one here, one there. TRUE ARS would present with an onset of a very high fever (usually over 101F), a non itchy rash, and sometimes swollen lymph nodes (multiple locations, not just one) and a sore throat. Those are the symptoms that are most commonly seen in people who have been newly diagnosed. They occur all together and all at once, it's not something you'd miss. The onset is 2-4 weeks after exposure, with the symptoms lasting 1-2 weeks. Someone with TRUE ARS will be very sick.
Bottom line is, you never had a risk. You have to put other people's comments (like the docs here) into perspective. Them saying that oral carries a negligible or low risk is really no different than us saying "no" risk, it's just semantics. The docs have said time and time again that in THEIR opinion, oral sex is NOT a concern.
Time to put this behind you and move along.
I am just asking does this sound like a description of the ars rash on the pens head
Ok teak one last clarification i need I guess I should try moving on . As only after a week of oral sex I noticed rashes . They were three and went without any medicine. After two days they were two as if inside the skin of the penis head . Like two red patches not raised or elevated . I figited with nails and one of them became like a pimple with pus . Also I was using a antibacterial cream . After that they appeared exactly at the shaft foreskin which touch the rash area on the head . May be I have figited and cause more nuisance.
The rash took about twenty days to go in total . Once They Went And After Friction Came Again. But when they went completely they have not come back after any friction .
Please comment on such description of rash . After the rashes got ok I started feeling this way .
The rash took about twenty days to go in total . Once They Went And After Friction Came Again. But when they went completely they have not come back after any friction .
Please comment on such description of rash . After the rashes got ok I started feeling this way .
by Emily_MHModerator,
And to clarify, it is this site's stance, based on studies and our own MedHelp experts (all of whom are world-renowned for their work in this field), that oral sex carries no risk for HIV.
Emily
And to clarify, it is this site's stance, based on studies and our own MedHelp experts (all of whom are world-renowned for their work in this field), that oral sex carries no risk for HIV.
Emily
No incident HIV infections among MSM who practice exclusively oral sex.
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States
Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228
AIDS: Volume 16(17) 22 November 2002 pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men
Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.
Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:
Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117
Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;
Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.
There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex. The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way. Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk". There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANSFIELD
"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Please educate yourself about the real risks. If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. " DR HANSFIELD
"I am sure you can find lots of people who believe that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..." DR HOOK
"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK
in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA
"HIV is not spread by masturbation, through oral sex, through kissing or other casual contact." Dr. Hook
"The observation on thousands and thousands of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort)." DR HOOK
"I would not say your risk ,if he had HIV is "slim to none"- that's too high. I would say they are effectively zero. How much of his ejaculate or other genital secretions you may have swallowed makes no difference. EWH "
"As far as HIV is concerned, there is no known risk of getting HIV from performing oral sex on an infected partner, even if that person's genital secretions get into your eyes or if you swallow." Dr.Hook
HIV is not spread by oral sex, giving or receiving, even if sores, gum disease or blood is present
DR HOOK
The fact is that there are no cases in which HIV has been proven to be transmitted by oral sex, including fellatio.. EWH
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States
Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228
AIDS: Volume 16(17) 22 November 2002 pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men
Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.
Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:
Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117
Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;
Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.
There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex. The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way. Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk". There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANSFIELD
"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Please educate yourself about the real risks. If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. " DR HANSFIELD
"I am sure you can find lots of people who believe that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..." DR HOOK
"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK
in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA
"HIV is not spread by masturbation, through oral sex, through kissing or other casual contact." Dr. Hook
"The observation on thousands and thousands of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort)." DR HOOK
"I would not say your risk ,if he had HIV is "slim to none"- that's too high. I would say they are effectively zero. How much of his ejaculate or other genital secretions you may have swallowed makes no difference. EWH "
"As far as HIV is concerned, there is no known risk of getting HIV from performing oral sex on an infected partner, even if that person's genital secretions get into your eyes or if you swallow." Dr.Hook
HIV is not spread by oral sex, giving or receiving, even if sores, gum disease or blood is present
DR HOOK
The fact is that there are no cases in which HIV has been proven to be transmitted by oral sex, including fellatio.. EWH
DR HUNTER AND DR HOOK STATE THERE IS A CHANCE of transmission
One in ten thousand. Whenever I have tried to question you have always been confident that oral no matter how rough can not transmit the virus. The hiv specialist I showed too . Did not mention that oral carries no risk when I told her the only exposure I had was oral. Could you please tell me how are you so sure . If that's the case . I am in no windows period . These symptoms are not due to anything related . I have had three duo test at twenty one days , thirty three days and forty one days . According to basics they cover two to four weeks for antigens and also four to 6 weeks for antibodies . Answer me last time then I will not trouble
One in ten thousand. Whenever I have tried to question you have always been confident that oral no matter how rough can not transmit the virus. The hiv specialist I showed too . Did not mention that oral carries no risk when I told her the only exposure I had was oral. Could you please tell me how are you so sure . If that's the case . I am in no windows period . These symptoms are not due to anything related . I have had three duo test at twenty one days , thirty three days and forty one days . According to basics they cover two to four weeks for antigens and also four to 6 weeks for antibodies . Answer me last time then I will not trouble
Search the forum and you'll see that same question has been asked and answered hundreds of times.
Ok no but in cases if someone has symptoms and they are prolonging more than 2 weeks . Like there was exhaustion and tiredness with body warm then 2 weeks later body temperature was normal but there was sore throat and tiredness . Third week there was muscle pain and 6th week there was diarrhea a small vision boaters 7th week there were some small pimples and rashes which itch like mosquito bites and are mostly present on opening of the hair on the body . Is that possible that Ars symptoms occur to this . Then 8th week a 2 3 pimple on the face
DO ARS SYMPTOMS OCCUR IN INSTALLMENTS OR WHATEVER AND HOW EVER THEY APPEAR THEY APPEAR FOR A TIME OF 2 WEEKS TOGETHER.
DO ARS SYMPTOMS OCCUR IN INSTALLMENTS OR WHATEVER AND HOW EVER THEY APPEAR THEY APPEAR FOR A TIME OF 2 WEEKS TOGETHER.
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