bitten by person hiv positive

I have been bitten by a person who is hiv+ drawn blood and deep in my abdomen what are the risks and what should I do?

[Teak]

No risk. Saliva is not infectious.

[joggen]

This is from the CDC website:

"Biting

In 1997, CDC published findings from a state health department investigation of an incident that suggested blood-to-blood transmission of HIV by a human bite. There have been other reports in the medical literature in which HIV appeared to have been transmitted by a bite. Severe trauma with extensive tissue tearing and damage and presence of blood were reported in each of these instances. Biting is not a common way of transmitting HIV. In fact, there are numerous reports of bites that did not result in HIV infection."

Overall, I think your risk is probably low, because of the low concentration in saliva. But you might want to post in the doctor's forum to see if they would recommend PEP .

Also, do you know if the person who bit you is on meds? Or better yet their viral load?

[Teak]

Saliva is not infectious. PERIOD. The lady that was reportedly bitten was never confirmed to be infected by being bitten.

[halyn]

whay is he bite  you ? guy hus spit in cop eyes in texas resive 35 ears in jail , juri desaide is infectioschios some way ,cheak whit hiv doctor,i guess its no risk but hu know for 100 percent

[Teak]

Yes we know a 100% that saliva is not infectious and also saliva has inhibiting proteins and enzymes to HIV.

[joggen]

"The lady that was reportedly bitten was never confirmed to be infected by being bitten."

That statement doesn't mean that they ruled it out either.

[LIZZIE LOU]

can we not get spell check?????  geeeeeeeeeeeez

[Teak]

Move on. You are posting responses in the forum and you just paid 15 dollars to be told you didn't have a risk from oral sex. That doesn't say much about your knowledge of HIV transmission.

[joggen]

I would recommend getting a professional opinion for peace of mind in nothing else. If it were me, anyway.

[joggen]

I refuse to get in a war of words with you. But you don't own this forum, buddy, so don't tell me to 'move on'

[Teak]

He should get a professional opinion for other possible infections cause by human bites. But not HIV.

[Teak]

You don't know what you are talking about either. We have enough of that going on, on this forum without you adding to it.

[joggen]

Talk to the hand.

[Teak]

MOVE ON.

[joggen]

Google this:
Short Communication: HIV Type 1 Transmission by Human Bite

Saliva is not infectious (I never implied that it was). But blood-to-blood transmission can occur (albeit rarely) with a bite, as both CDC site and this article indicate.

[nursegirl6572]

There would be no blood to blood exposure in a human bite...it would be saliva to tissue/ blood.  Even if there WERE blood present....still a no go....there would have to be a HUGE amt for the risk to be worrisome.

No risk for HIV...but definitely be seen by your Doc..a human bite can cause all kinds of nasty infections.

[Nickolas290]

I might be playing devil's advocate here, but there is a risk of transmission through saliva. Like it or not the CDC has not ruled out biting as a means of transmission of the HIV virus. For instance, if an officer is bitten by a known HIV positive individual it can be charged as attempted murder.

The thing with HIV is that it's not only in your blood, it's in every form of fluid in your body from your blood to yoru semen to vaginal fluids to saliva. Saliva is typically considered a negligable risk but on the other hand if the person or individual had open sores / blood in his/her mouth then transmission becomes a possibility.

There are many factors that determine whether an individual becomes infected as in any other case the viral load the amount of blood etc all of it plays into the ratio. You know this person is HIV+ right? Then get tested and if it was in the last 72 hours I would advise you to go to an emergency room and spaek to the on-call doctor about your options and see if he wants to put you on a nPeP such as combivir.

[Nickolas290]

Good luck Jamie hope everything turns out for the best.

[Teak]

Ignore Nickolas290. He has no education in HIV transmission or testing. The information that he has given is incorrect. Saliva is not infectious.

[joggen]

"Saliva is typically considered a negligable risk but on the other hand if the person or individual had open sores / blood in his/her mouth then transmission becomes a possibility."

He already said saliva is not infectious. He's merely arguing this is a LOW risk situation, not a NO risk situation.

In biology and medicine, things are not as black and white as you portray them in your answers Teak. In many case HIV risk is a continuum, and that applies here.

[Teak]

Move on, like normal you are another one that doesn't know anything about HIV transmission. A human bite is NOT a risk of contracting HIV. Saliva is noninfectious. It would matter if the person was positive with sores in their mouth.

[joggen]

All we are saying is that transmission is a possibility if the biter has his own blood present in his mouth. The same thing suggested by the CDC in their review of published journal articles (above). The same thing documented in the case report 2004 article "Short Communication: HIV Type 1 Transmission by Human Bite" by Andreo et al in AIDS Research and Human Retroviruses.

Do I think transmission by bite occurs frequently? No, I don't. I suspect it must be pretty rare. Do I think it is likely that the biter had enough blood present in his mouth in this situation to cause infection? Probably not. But I don't know all the facts of the situation (I wasn't there). If someone is psychotic enough to bite another person, who knows?

As a reasonable precaution, since the biter was known to be positive, the responsible recommendation in this situation is for the victim to seek a professional (doctor's) opinion, rather than rely on the opinion of a paramedic with oversimplified training.

[Teak]

MOVE ON. Again you don't know what you are talking about. HIV is NOT transmitted via a bite of any kind. Over simplified training? Yeah right. If you only knew a third of what I do you would at least know a little something about HIV. Your ignorance shows the more you continue to post.

[FWK]

Hi Jamie,

First risk is very Low..like really low

Did you bleed or bruise?

Go test at 6 weeks or at 28 days with DUO and if negative u should be ok
hopefully it is.

Others please don't fight, you make us all stressed.

Regards,
FWK

[Teak]

There is no fight going on. Trying to keep this forum cleared of incorrect information just like you just posted.

[joggen]

I'm not sure if this original post wasn't bogus. The abdomen seems an usual place for a human bite (especially a deep one). And this jamie person hasn't posted any follow-up.