moving on...please read

this post is really directed to those of you who are extreme worried wells and suffer from ocd.  you know who you are :)

when someone becomes obsessed with having hiv...it becomes all consuming...taking over every aspect of your life.  you wake up and head straight to the internet...you search...you read...obsessing...obsessing.  the last thing you do before going to sleep, is check the internet one more time...obsessing...obsessing.  this "pattern" has now become another part of your ocd...unable to do anything else except think and research about hiv.

when you receive your negative result...i strongly urge you to move on with your life.  continuing to stay on the internet reading about hiv has got to stop.  you have to break the cycle.  i have seen sooooooo many ppl get their negative result...and decide that they want to stay on the forum and "help" others who have gone through the same experience that they have.  listen to me...IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY.  nine times out of ten...you end up right back in the same place...in your mind...that you were before receiving your negative result.  it is all part of your ocd...the obsessing...the what ifs...the doubts.  you will never put this behind you if you dont break the cycle.  so many times, your obsessive thinking can (and does) drive ppl to a worse place in their life.  not everyone that comes to this site is an extreme worried well and suffering from ocd...although the large majority of you are.  

there is a saying that i have posted many, many times on here.  NOTHING CHANGES IF NOTHING CHANGES.  i urge you to step up to the plate and take care of yourself...your mental self.  instead of obsessing about hiv...put that energy and effort into seeking treatment for your ocd.  medhelp also has a forum for ppl with ocd...and another forum for ppl suffering from anxiety.  when you have a conclusive result...there ARE NO inf, ands, or buts about it.  you are conclusively negative.  it is time for you to move on from this forum and post in the "appropriate" forum.

i wish you nothing but good luck in the future...but it is time to move on :)

[alienshadow]

yep MOVE ON only a few can accept their negative and then help others it was hard for me at first but with support from my wife and a few friends on this forum i got past that fear AND yes it is hard i know but you have to learn a fact is a fact there will be things that will happen after testing like getting sick or maybe a rash or feeling of a lymph node from having a sore throat there are so many facts here i could say BOTTOM line is move on and dont think hey i can give out advice now when you get that negative when in your heart you havent accepted it truely in your heart helping others and reading there post will drive in the fear of something you didnt ask and guess what the fear is right back


take our advice once you get that NEGATIVE MOVE ON

[neel333]

thats ture.

[worriedman34]

Do most of people really get negative results? If so what are those symptoms mean.

Can someone please clarify?? Cannot sleep though its 4:am now.

Thanks a lot.

[LIZZIE LOU]

please ask your questions in a new post.

[PAZIG]

thanks lizzie, IMO you should prob. make this post once a week

[LIZZIE LOU]

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[alienshadow]

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[Leo59]

Yes, that was an interesting comment on obsession, Lizzie Lou. I guess the difficulty in moving on after a negative result comes from guilt over careless behavior. It does seem self-indulgent in relation to those who get a positive result.

[LIZZIE LOU]

buttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt...guilt over careless behavior is NOT a hiv concern, now is it?  you get the negative...and if you cant deal with the result or the guilt...you take it to the appropriate forum :)

[worried826]

If you cant accpet a negative result then your have mental problems ie.. OCD, anxiety, health phobias. I actually have anxiety and always can accept my negatives and I actually have risks, I hate using condoms.

[Leo59]

Absolutely

[LIZZIE LOU]

negatives????  as in plural???

you keep playing with fire and you're bound to get burned!!!!!!!

[worried826]

Yeah I get a negative every year for my annual test, probably been with over 25 women unprotected. I know pretty stupid in hindsight, im not doing that **** anymore though, im not playing with fire from now on.

[alienshadow]

well worried 825 whats going to be your appoarch for contraseptics

[worried826]

Thats why I find it amazing in these threads here where people cant accept the negative or swear they have HIV from non risk situations, then I look at myself with tons of actual risks and I think wow, I must be really careless and really lucky.

[worried826]

I guess rubbers, although i really hate using them. Theres gotta be a way to make it comfortable using them becuase when i have used them I was extremely bored and not into the sex. I would actualy rather not have sex rather than use a condom.

[LIZZIE LOU]

if you get hiv from hating condoms...you'll wish you had used them.  no matter that hiv treatment has come a long way...the social stigma is a killer.  

i have a good idea...why dont you get into a monogamous relationship and then you wouldnt have to use them.  just a thought???????  a good one at that, if i have to say so myself :)

[alienshadow]

well i would say get a porn mag and videos thats safer than getting hiv plus you wouldnt have to wine and dine all the time LOL
man really be careful dude no matter what you know how dirty society can be

[worried826]

Yeah I know I would surely wish I used condoms if I ever caught HIV, but hindsight is always 20/20 right and foresight is usually like 20/100, lol?

I actually am getting back with my ex wife now so hopefully that works out for the best.

[worried826]

I agree man.

[ali89]

Let me express that this was true

The problem of people not to accept the result of the critical and negative after three months because there is floundering in the information in the Internet and from some doctors and doctors do not want to shoulder responsibility by saying you okay not worry, they say there are always some people delay the emergence of antibodies have to escape from responsibility, I do not know whether they do not Trust themselves and their experiences I understand the feeling of danger improve what is seen less and a smaller percentage, however small

For example, I contacted the Advice Centre and the doctor said to me you must do several tests after six months and Elisa pcr  
I told them this is not true never contacted the next day and spoke with another person said I told you this talk is simply not true that I said I am sorry that Dr. your answer was new and this first day of action looool :)

In short, non-acceptance of the result after three months, the main reason it is misinformation and fear of doctors assume responsibility

Reminding

This speech does not apply to Dr. H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D. And Edward W Hook and also the members of this distinguished forum

[LIZZIE LOU]

a little bump here...

[samioso]

Well for somebody like myself it wasnt easy at first for me to think that I wasnt HIV positive because I live in MIAMI and we have the highest HIV rate in the country.There are stats that say 1 out of every 5 people living here has HIV and thats scary.So when I had my exposure Im thinking whats the chance I DONT have HIV with that type of stat.But I read on this forum and it says that its not easy to catch HIV so I was confused but ,the more you all spoke the more sense you all made to me.I have put that behind me now and have moved on since Ive gotten my negative result and thanks again everybody.

[LIZZIE LOU]

really?  have you moved on?  have you put hiv out of your mind?  i notice that you are back.

[samioso]

Thats only because I just feel sorry for those people dealing with anxiety cause I went through the same thing but trust me Ive moved on I feel so much better about myself and I can function now and thats something I wasnt able to do for the last month.Im sleeping through the night now,I can face my kids ,I go to work without worrying and im not being hard or down on myself anymore so im over it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LIZZIE LOU]

i have seen sooooooo many ppl get their negative result...and decide that they want to stay on the forum and "help" others who have gone through the same experience that they have.  listen to me...IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY.  nine times out of ten...you end up right back in the same place...in your mind...that you were before receiving your negative result.  

the above is from my original post...

move on with your life...

[Teak]

Miami-Dade county has a population of apx. 2.4 million and has an infection rate of around 30,000 person which is a far cry from 1 in every 5.

[samioso]

Well I guess their over exadrating with the stats and even the doctors tell you the same thing,but it doesnt matter im negative and I plan on never putting myself into harmsway like that again.

[evenflow1121]

I am actually living in Miami right now (cant wait to move back upstate), and there is no way in hell that for every five people living in Miami one is infected with HIV.  The amount of people living in Miami with HIV,  ranks around 1% of Dade County's population.  Yeah I know the media down here is retarded, but no way in hell is that number so rampant down here.  Miami is also not the city with the highest amount of HIV cases in the US, its up there, but you are incorrect in believing it to be the highest.

[samioso]

Know for a fact  1. Miami dade county 2.Broward county 3.New york Forgot 4 and 5 I think its up state Ill find out.

[LIZZIE LOU]

if you must...discuss this on another post please...dont hijack this thread.

[LIZZIE LOU]

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[worried826]

I was at the strip club twice this week. Do I have HIV???


J/K :)  Bump

[worried826]

Quit posting this BS, if you repeadtly test negative out of the window then you are negtaive, period, end of story. If the tests were that jacked up the FDA wouldnt allow them to stay out on the market.  

[evenflow1121]

Yes I agree with your post, most people that come here are not even at risk to begin with.  And I know that risky situations can traumatize some.  Not to sound too judgmental, but when you test and test negative, if you have even the slightest chance of developing an OCD over this or are already OCD, get your conclusive and move on with your life.  Join a gym, buy yourself something nice, go outside, enjoy life and move forward, forget about this place and dont make the same mistake again.

[alienshadow]

tee tee move on

[TEE38]

seriously if you people really took the time to see the correlation between post then myabe ud realize that there is a possibility for anything. just because its not out there does not mean that its not happening. so because you never seen god or heard of someone seeing him, does that mean you shouldnt believe. all im saying is that people only believe the norm, the expect the usual, the statistics and not the possibilites. in todays society at the rate we are going we are going to see things that we never expected.

[worried826]

Ok I cede the point, You yourself via the internet has discovered that HIV tests are innaccurate and can not be relied on. Please report your well investigated and groiund breaking findings to the CDC and FDA so they can work on getting me a test that actually works.

[worried826]

I did report you, thats probably why your last thread dissapeared also.

11 months of anxiety isnt ****. Ive had it for 8 years, anxiety doesnt always stem from thinking you have a sickness. If you dont like to ehar the truth then by all means go away, nobody is forcing you to be here.

I really do feel for you though, I bet you are very anxiety rideen.

[worried826]

The tests are designed to detect Human Immunodeficiency Virus and that is what they detect and that only. As for all this other **** you are talking about I am sure you are not light years ahead of the doctors and scientists that are dedicated to HIV and eradicating it.

[worried826]

This is an HIV forum, once it is confirmed that you dont have HIV you need to go elsewhere to find out what is causing your problems.

Symptoms do indeed mean that something can be wrong, but if you have conclusive negative HIV tests then HIV is not causing your problems. It could be from mono, flu, or any other virus out there. Simple enough?

Anxiety does not make a person crazy at all. Ive had anxiety since I was 17, im pretty normal. Once people latch onto the thought of HIV they run with it and it consumes their life and it becomes obsessive. The constant worrying can cause physical symptoms, if you dont know that then you shouldnt be on here trying to make determinations that people that still exhibit symptoms after negative tests must still have HIV because you obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

[alienshadow]

i agree worried very well said

[LIZZIE LOU]

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[LIZZIE LOU]

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[american196]

Very good  LIZZIE LOU. +5/5 kudos for you!