oral sex .. i am worried ...

[india431]

Hi

Your website is a very nice informative website.

i am seeking your advise .


It has been 60 days now ,  I had received unprotected oral sex ( 30 seconds ) from a female massacre in the morning 11 am.

Assuming she was HIV positive , Since that day i have been worried of HIV transmission.

Pls help me and reply to my below mentioned doubts -

1) As i had gone in the morning - If she would have cuts / bleeding gums caused due to brushing teeth . Do that transmit HIV to me ?

3) I have since 15 days constant acute pain in the lower abdomen appendix area and i have read online that this is one of the symptoms of hiv (lymph nodes near appendix area )....  Is it true ?

4) I am waiting to get myself tested after 12 weeks ... Can i test now ? it has been 8 weeks .

Sorry for my english ...

Please reply to be asap as it will be great help for me to relax myself a bit ..

Thank you in advance

[Teak]

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[india431]

Thank you all for your reply and support ...

I got myself tested and it is negative ..

Got my report today (10th week)

Can I consider this antibody test conclusive or should I do one more test post 12 weeks .

Pls advise and thank you once again for all the help and advise ...

God bless

[RainLover71]

Yes you can have sex with your wife as you had no risk.

[india431]

Thank you rainlover71

Yes I have been following your webaite and reading and reading ..

I am still worried fact being I am married and keepin away from my partner ...

I am not doubting this forum or the experts but if this being my last question - am I not at risk ? Even if the lady had bleeding gums ? Can I get back to my normal life and have unprotected sex with my wife ...

Have had acute pain in left side lower abdomen since a month now which does not let me move on as ivfeel its  symptom ..
please advise ... your reply means alot to me ...



Thx a ton .. ...

[india431]

Thank you teak ..

Have seen this post a number of times ..

I am still worried fact being I am married and keepin away from my partner ...

I am not doubting this forum or the experts but if this being my last question - am I not at risk ? Even if the lady had bleeding gums ? Can I get back to my normal life and have unprotected sex with my wife ...

please advise ... your reply means alot to me ...

Thx a ton .. ...

[Teak]

No incident HIV infections among MSM who practice exclusively oral sex.
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States

Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228

AIDS: Volume 16(17) 22 November 2002 pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men

Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.

Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:

Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117
Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;

Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.

There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex. The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way. Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk". There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANSFIELD

"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Please educate yourself about the real risks. If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. " DR HANSFIELD

"I am sure you can find lots of people who believe that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..." DR HOOK

"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK

in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA
"HIV is not spread by masturbation, through oral sex, through kissing or other casual contact." Dr. Hook
"The observation on thousands and thousands of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort)." DR HOOK
"I would not say your risk ,if he had HIV is "slim to none"- that's too high.  I would say they are effectively zero.  How much of his ejaculate or other genital  secretions you may have swallowed makes no difference.  EWH "
"As far as HIV is concerned, there is no known risk of getting HIV from performing oral sex on an infected partner, even if that person's genital secretions get into your eyes or if you swallow." Dr.Hook
HIV is not spread by oral sex, giving or receiving, even if sores, gum disease or blood is present
DR HOOK
The fact is that there are no cases in which HIV has been proven to be transmitted by oral sex, including fellatio..  EWH

[RainLover71]

There are thousands of posts that explain why you had no risk.All you have to do is read through some.

[india431]

Thank you for your reply ....

I also happened to read your post and the worry you had one unprotected oral sex ...

Have been reading and reading posts here and responses from TEAK and LIZZIE ...

Hoping if they would could add there thoughts on my questions above ..

I am freaking out thinking and thinking and only reading responses helps me calm down ...

[afraidofrisk]

You just said it "mixed with saliva"

Saliva contains enzymes that effectively destroy the HIV virus and thus even if she was bleeding, you are safe from HIV and testing is not required for the above mentioned scenario. Please calm down. You never had any HIV risk.

[india431]

Hello Again

Hoping to get a response plsss ..

All i do all day is evaluate the chances of me getting infected .. i am tired and over worked ..

I understand that the gums dont bleed profusely but does just a little blood from the bleeding gums mixed with saliva put me at risk ?

Can it get into me through my mucous membrane ...

I am terrified and a little detailed answer would help me put my mind at rest ...

Thank you again and i am hoping my question doesn't go unanswered this time.

Thank you again and keep up the good work Angels ..

[india431]

Thank you for your response ... my only worry is the bleeding gums if she may have ....

Would it penetrate via the mucuos membrane and effect me ..

I did not have any visible cuts on my penis .. but I am **** scared l.. !!!

To be more precised the act would not be more than 10 secs and I feel I am infected ..

Pls help me ... any response is most valuavle to me as I have been terrified and am unable to live , work , breathe :(

Appreciate the good work that you guys are doing ...

[hangon51]

"4) I am waiting to get myself tested after 12 weeks ... Can i test now ? it has been 8 weeks ."

It doesn't matter how long you wait . You don't need to test at all since HIV is not transmitted in the way you described.