to TEAK or LIZZIE

i am well aware that i may be banned, however i see the choice of my health coming first, and i have decsions to make.
i told you about my exposure.....unprotected oral sex...and contact between the head of the peinis and the vagina. in which vaginal juices could definately of been present, paticulary since i came at the time.

you have both described this situation as no risk

well. seeing as the choive of options that several bangkok drs have just given me, according to which lymph nodes i have swollen, you will forgive me for asking why you think my situattion was no risk.

i have been told that the causes of my right supraclavicular Lymph node is because of one of 3 things . HIV, cancer or TB. now  you will forgive me for thinking this but this node appeared 3 weeks after my non peneatrative vaginal fluid contact.

evey dr i have seen today, has said the same thing. if there is contact between vagina fluid and the penis, then there  is possibilty of HIV  infetction. and ihave seem 4 drs today. one local in a clinic, one in an HIV anonymose bangkok red cross clinic, and two differtnt drs in an expensive private hospitall. all of them agree that there is a risk.

instead of jus saying there is no risk. or some one sentecne reply. i want you to explain why having vaginal fluid in direct contact with your uncircimsed penis is no risk, becaue a whol erange of bankgok HIV specialists seem to disagree with you, and my future health and uninsured *** is at stake.

dont just say NO RISK. .explain it so an idiot like me could understand

[happydaze]

If you have seen all these doctors, have you had any of them administer an HIV test.  You really did have no risk.  If you cannot accept that, then you should get a test to collect your eventual negative result and move on with your life.  It's not worth all this fretting over.

Why did you not have a risk.  Well, let see....oral sex is not a viable means of transmission. Although there is theoretically risk in giving oral to a man (but not in receiving it), in the real world of HIV infections attributed to giving oral never hold up under scientific scrutiny.  Get it?  It doesn't happen.  Cunnilingus and getting sucked have NEVER been a means of getting HIV and you will NOT be the first person in the world to get infected that way.

Your saliva has over a dozen elements which are very effective at inhibiting transmission of viable HIV virus. Additionally, there have been very longterm studies of serodiscordant couples, both gay and straight. They had only protected vaginal/anal intercourse and lots of mutual unprotected oral sex. The results have been that not a single seronegative partner has become infectected. Not one.  Not a single one.  All kinds of oral sex in this study....cunninlingus, receptive, insertive.....bleeding gums, ejaculation, etc., etc. Blah, Blah.... Still....not a single transmission.

Your penile to vagina contact?  No risk.  The infected fluids in a woman are way up in the cervical area.  Not near her lips.  Unless you inserted your unprotected penis INSIDE her vagina, you had NO risk.  Again, I think you are worrying needlessly. Please move on.

[monkeycircus]

well at last something approaching a normal response. however...

dont you think there was a risk?

and dont  you think that afte 3 weeks if someone...assuming the initial risk deveopedsupraclavicular Lymph nodes...that were deemed 'significant' by every dr they cam eacross, there would be reason for concern.???

i know there was a small amount of contact. there was no penetration, but i said this exact same thing to 4 different drs today, and they ALL said, there was unprotected contact, and the only way to be sure is to test after 3 months.

believe me i want to move on, but the only other causes that they are giving ne for the duration and location of my swollen nodes, besides HIV , are cance and TB

[happydaze]

My answer to all of your follow up questions is.........NO.

If you cannot accept that you did not have a risk, then go get an HIV test, collect your inevitable negative results and be done with it.  Why keep posting what-ifs??  Not productive or conducive to your mental health.  Once you get your negative results and you still have health related questions, see your doctor.  Time to move on as this is not an HIV situation.