to anyone with experience on testing

i am trying to clarify testing here i tested negative on day 40 could this be conclusive do i need another test i know i was 2 days shy of 6 weeks cdc says on average most positives show up in 25 days please help here trying to move on

[inadepression]

6 weeks is very encouraging.
12 weeks conclusive.
Doctors and his coll. have never seen a person who is negative at 6 weeks, but positive later.
Howeveri CDC says 12 weeks is conclusive.

[alienshadow]

so you think i will be ok then at 12 weeks test

[longone]

Forum-M.D.-HHH9/21/2006 Josh1968 Your risk remains very low, despite the penile lesion. HIV infected people tend not to have HIV in their saliva/mouth, at least not in numbers that can be readily transmitted. So assuming the lesion indeed resulted from a tooth injury during your exposure, or if it was pre-existing, it probably doesn't significantly elevate the extremely low risk associated with receiving oral sex.Many other threads have addressed various tests and the time until they reliably turn positive. Search for "HIV diagnosis" and "time to positive HIV test". But it really doesn't matter in your case. From a medical/risk perspective, you really don't need testing. But if your anxieties lead you to proceed, just have a standard antibody test (or Duo test) about 6-8 weeks after exposure. (Despite the routine recommendation to wait 3 months, it really isn't necessary; modern antibody tests just about always are positive within 6 weeks.) It absolutely be a waste of money, time and energy to have a PCR test, which also carries a significant risk of a false positive result--which as you can understand can be pretty alarming.Good luck-- HHH, MD

[alienshadow]

whats is this this was not my exposure

[SkinJ]

Just a quick question about the tests. I am having a HDUO test at 4 weeks. All the time lines indicate 6 weeks, but it is offered. Is this the same as a PCR test? Can you be negative at 4 weeks, but go on to develope and would a 4 week HDUO test at 4 weeks if negative be reassuring or just a false hope?

[SkinJ]

I can see your point Shadow, you sound ahead of me on the time frame, but not by much. I hope someone can clarrify these things for you. It helps us all.

[alienshadow]

well maybe together in this forum we can find an answer from a relible source

[longone]

The post was to show what Dr HHH an expert says about testing time.

But if your anxieties lead you to proceed, just have a standard antibody test (or Duo test) about 6-8 weeks after exposure. (Despite the routine recommendation to wait 3 months, it really isn't necessary; modern antibody tests just about always are positive within 6 weeks.)

Maybe this will also help, I had a 5 week  and one day test so I know what you are going through.

Personally, I have never encountered a patient who was HIV negative at 10 weeks (or even at 4-6 weeks) who later becamse positive.Good luck--- HHH, MD

[alienshadow]

so are yousaying thats when you tested 5 weeks 1 day do feel good about that

[ImStupid]

You're well above 90% reliability at 5 weeks.  Its a great sign of your negativity.

[sanzip123]

cdc says on average most positives show up in 25 days please help here trying to move on

this statement says that when they did there data collection they found most of the people started producing enough antibodies at 25 days(percentage i dont know but it must be around 20-30 % peoples) and then that brunch of peoples, with other people continue to positive i,e detecting antibodies up to 12 weeks(i.e  became positive up to 12 weeks)
then after no one or they retain there result at 12 week , onwards in there life

[E.John]

HIV has various subtypes and certain subtypes have a longer window period. It is also possible that your body takes longer time to create antibodies or not at all. After an exposure and you are experiencing typical acute HIV symptoms you can't be sure.

[alienshadow]

just talked to my doctor he said a negative after 40 days is good he has never seen a positive after that he said testing at 3 months would be for -peace of mind also he said its like throwing 100 decks of cards in a pile on the floor and picking the joker yes it can happen but what are the chances like i slept with an escort what are the true factors she had hiv dont know probably slim being i used protection and i know condom came off still probably low risk then with modern testing for hiv and i am negative i would say i am home free i have had no symptoms except for reading this s**** on the net then i went crazy and thats when i could notice anything i guess thats normal  when you feel bad for what you have done i dont know if i should retest in the beginning dr h said he saw no need for testing at all what you think i was at nearly zero risk

[longone]

"so are you saying thats when you tested 5 weeks 1 day do feel good about that"

I do, wish it was 6 weeks I could not wait. I am going for another test next week that will be the 7th week. If that is NEG I will put this behind me and think how lucky I was given my nutty life style of the last couple of years . I hope the 5 week was right.  

[alienshadow]

my test was to days shy of 6 weeeks but read my reply above

[longone]

Most people don't understand how sensitive they have made these new tests. Your body knows from the minutes a virus hits it that something is wrong. It begins to fight for its life from that second on. Yes it takes time to produce enough antibodies to be detected and that's the million dollar question because it is so individual, however the old body is doing its best and antibodies are being produce very shotly after infection.

Don't get me wrong, I also sweat the test and the time it takes. As for me, I now wounder about the  age factor  [I am older] but I have been doing research and it looks as if that is not a factor in antibody production.

[Teak]

Shadow, if you had a risk. Test at 3 months and get your conclusive result. There are no tests that have been approved to give you a conclusive negative result before 3 months.

[alienshadow]

on average would you say that when i take this 3 month test i will remain negative being i tested negative on day 40 and the cdc says on average most positive show up after 25 days

[Teak]

It's a good sign that you will, but the only way to know for sure is to get your conclusive result.