unprotected vaginal Sex HIV HELP

Hi All


on 30. December a misstake is happen, i got unprotected Vaginal Sex with ah Girl who use Drugs she tell me she use now Methadon, before she use Cocaine + Heroine, i was so trunken and i got unprotected Vaginal Sex for maybe 5 minutes not longer. Later she tells me she works as a Prostitute on the Streets , i ask about HIV she tells me no she didnt have hiv, shes  got  child etc....but who knows what is true and false?Maybe she lies


now today 36 days ago i make a HIV Rapid Test it comes Negativ back, how big are the chance that the Test comes postiv back on 8 Weeks , 13 Weeks?

I never got Symtoms (symptoms) like fever, etc but a a little red small points on the body ;-(((( for a few days ? what was this ?hiv acute????

im so happy to find this forum;-(

[Serge1975]

Your test result is reassuring, but not conclusive. It will be conclusive at 3 month. Symptoms do not matter - your small dots may have appeared for many reasons unrelated to HIV.

[orangebox]

Hi There

ok thanks, thats means my change of a HIV+ Test is now 50% for the next Test at 8 Weeks?

[orangebox]

hello?

Test

[veryworried915]

You do not have HIV.it is HIV phobia.you will be ok.

[LIZZIE LOU]

as stated...test at 3 months for a conclusive result.

[orangebox]

Hi thanks

but im not a HIV Phobia Freak, it was a HIGH RISK unprotected Vaginal act.She tells me later she works on the Street as Streetworker.

The Problem is i found a white point on my left Tonsille now its there for 1 week and didnt go away and 1 week before i got 5-6 red points on my Body .

No fever , no fatique etc

Yesterday i freaked really out i hope the test gives me a litte chance

[LIZZIE LOU]

your symptoms are NOT indicative of early infection.

a test at 6 weeks is a good indication of your status and is unlikely to change.  YOU had unprotected sex...YOU will have to wait for that conclusive result.

[depeche]

There's loads of people who have one or two white spots on their tonsils from time to time. It's absolutely nothing, and it goes away by its own. Think of it as a pimple with pus, eventually the pus is released and the pimple disappears. Most people who have such spots don't even notice them. Do not try to probe it, because you'll most probably hurt yourself and then you'll think you have yet another symptom!

Try to relax.  

[orangebox]

Ok

First thanks for all answers!! Good to have a site like this one.

Ok that means after 5, 6 Weeks after the **** is happen and the Rapid HIV Test is come negative back the change safe of this testing is 50-60% after 5 Weeks.

i read here a lot of 4 and 5 weeks after rapid test comes back the safety is 99%??

That cant be beause in a german forum a user has got a HIV Test (Duo AK+P24) after 4 weeks it comes Negativ back, then he make at 11 Weeks a new HIV Test Duo it comes Positive back, than PCR etc all Positive back

[LIZZIE LOU]

that is a good example of why it takes a test done at 3 months for a conclusive result.

[orangebox]

ok he wrote be back, the Test was 23 days after the Risk, he has got before 3 weeks after the risk high fever etc, the Test after 23 Days (HIV DUO) comes negative back, then at 11 Week after Risk Test comes positive back.

[depeche]

Reading stories on how other people's test turned positive is a surefire way to become obsessed and lose your sleep. If you want to do yourself a favour, stay away from the Internet.

The doctors on the other forum say that a 5-week test is very encouraging. Is this good enough for you? Since you are here, I guess that not. So, it doesn't matter what anyone tells you -- since you cannot deal with uncertainty, you'll need to go and collect your negative 3-month result. I know the waiting is tough, but you'll make it. Most probably you'll be fine.    

[LIZZIE LOU]

the reality of the situation is...all of that is irrelevant.  

you put yourself at risk and you need a test at 3 months for a conclusive result.  period !

[orangebox]

Lizzie Lou


yes thats true it was my mistake and i must life with the consequences!

[orangebox]

ok now i freaked out, i found on my left and right tonsils a white point, i think its pharyngitis, i read this is a symptom of acute HIV Infection, i got this 2 points for a week now , i test everyday the temperature rectal its betwen 36.5 and 37.5 grade.

I tryit to remove with ah ripper ;-((

**** why i didnt use a condom i cant believe it  

I never hat this 2 white points before the sex was!

[Vance2335]

One piece of advice is to stop looking and stop checking everything. This is leading down a bad road that is going to consume you. Until the 3 month mark you need to live your life and try your best to put this out of your mind.

[LIZZIE LOU]

stop looking for things in the mirror and trying to diagnose yourself.  we all have white spots in and around our mouths and throats.  

look in the top right hand corner of this page and read about hiv anxiety and just anxiety in general.  read the posts here...find some from ppl who have come back to tell of ALL symptoms they had...but tested negative.

i know that you had unprotected sex...but if you continue to check your body every 15 minutes and search the internet for signs and symptoms...youre going to drive yourself insane.

test at the appropriate time and let us know the outcome.  

[orangebox]

Hi all thanks

but its not ah phobie or something else its really there look a the pic

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9567/tonuegeyk8.jpg

I had this never before, and i read this is a symptom of hiv acute


oh my god how can i tell this my family etc

[Vance2335]

It maybe there but it means nothing at this point. people get things all the time and you can't diagnosis based on symptoms.
At this point I urge you to stop looking for symptoms and just report back after you have your test results.

[nursegirl6572]

Stop examining yourself....I bet that "spot" has been there forever, you just never had a reason to look before.

Your results thus far are very encouraging.  Collect your conclusive result at 3 months......in the meantime, seek some help with the anxiety.

You are worried about telling your family?  Don't put the cart before the horse...very likely you dodged a bullet this time.

[orangebox]

now i freaket totally out, i see this on my Body today and the first thing that i did was  vomit my eat in the toilett im so shocked now.

Its now the second time that i have this red rush

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3618/p1010892wq9.jpg


it looks bad really bad , its a dark day for me

[Teak]

Cut your drama. You were given when to test. If you have a concern about your rash or throat go to the doctor. Geeeesh.....

[stupid_717]

Since you are going totally insane- i would suggest getting an early PCR test from a reputed lab in Zurich. I got mine done today- results won't be out for 7 days....but thats OK....at least I would know one way or the other...
The doctor said the reliability of the PCR tests depend largely on the labs- so make sure you check the lab before getting it.
Then I am gonna do a 28 day DUO test, a 6 week test and finally one at 3 months...to be sure. Provided I get negative on all :)

You should be fine though.

I was so paranoid that I went to a private doctor today- he told me that symptoms don't mean anything at this stage (I developed mouth ulcers and soar throat)

The probability of you getting HIV from unprotected vaginal sex is 1 in 1000, assuming your partner was positive.
If we assume 5% HIV+ rate for her to be +ve....that means your chances are 1 in 20,000....
Have you even won a lottery? if not, then you are safe:)

[Teak]

PCR test are not approved to be used for diagnostic use. They are monitoring tests for people with HIV.

[dxbdxb]

Are the probabilities stupid_717 talking about somehow correct?  From what I understand from Serge1975, duration doesn't matter (even if seconds)?  Does the no ejaculation decrease the probabilities?

[stupid_717]

Why is there so much conflicting information about HIV testing out there?

I went to the GUM clinic first- they said their test is only after 3 months, but they did tell me that if I am interested in knowing earlier than go to a pvt lab for PCR and DuO.
The pvt. doctor said, PCR has a 99% accuracy of diagnosing HIV at 10+ days...and that porn industry in California uses that test to check for infections in actors.
he said that the DUO at 28 days is 95% accurate. And that 3 month WIndow is an hang-over from testing in 80s and 90s...

It is really confusing for a person who doesn't much about HIV-- as to where to go for what tests etc. So I am gonna get all of em. But I think there should be a reasonable guideline....
If I understand right, FDA only approved 3 month test-- but if PCR looks for HIV viral load in blood, and if you are recently infected then, in theory, it should detect it...because VL is pretty high from 10-16 days post infection.

What do you think?

[stupid_717]

Forgot to add: the doctor even told me that I don't need to do 28 day or 3 mnth testing if my PCR test comes out negative.
However, if its positive then .....they would need further confirmation testing

[stupid_717]

The probability of male getting HIV from female from a vaginal intercourse is 1 out of 2000 (per Dr. HHH in this forum). I took a conservative number (1 out 1000)-- which my doctor gave today. Note that if you are uncircumcised, the probability of getting HIV is roughly double.

I am NOT an expert-- actually I didn't know anything about HIV until 14 days ago-- but this is what most of the doctors seems to agree on.

[orangebox]

now i know it was a bad idea not taking the PEP, i ask the doctor in the Hospital 1 Day after the Misstake is happen he says no to PEP.

No i think it was one of the biggest Failure

[stupid_717]

They won't do PEP on you unless they consider you high risk, which you obviously are NOT.
I strongly suggest getting  confirmatory tests-- like PCR and others to calm yourself down and be close to 99% sure that you are OK. Also see a specialist doctor if you can. And do get yourself checked for other STDs which are more common and easily transmittable.
Your symptoms could be because of something else-- like stress? Hang in there....
And to be honest, if you have it then...this is not end of the world. May be this is how it is meant to be.

People with HIV live normal lives...and I have a lot of respect for them now...

[Teak]

Your doctor can't change the approval to a test. He's not the mfg or the FDA and that is totally incorrect. PCR-RNA is approved to be used in conjunction with an antibody test. PCR-Dna are not approved for diagnostic use period.

[stupid_717]

OK, I understand this, and I am not going to argue with you because your knowledge in this subject is a lot more than mine...and many others here-- but my question is again: why do we have so conflicting info from different sources? I am not sure if there is any other disease where you have to wait that long just to be diagnosed. I also understand that this is a relatively new disease-- but still....

BTW, what kind of tests are done to make sure donor's blood is not HIV infected? what if the donor is still in the Window period???

Take a look at the PCR test details that I took:

The Early HIV-1 Proviral Test
Another way to test for HIV infection, other then looking for antibodies, is to look for the genetic material (DNA/RNA) of the HIV virus itself in a blood sample. One such test is the HIV Proviral DNA test, which uses a complex technique called PCR to detect the virus. This test detects the presence of HIV-1 as early as 10 days following infection and does so with a sensitivity of around 96 to 99%. Because of the complexity of this test, a result is not usually available for 5 to 7 working days.

Now, the doctor in London said that based on my exposure (one time, hetrosexual) I wouldn't need a follow up test.....
Do you think I should get follow up tests then? I will take them anyways-- because with so many people telling different things-- I can't relay on one. I will do my due-diligence-- and after that if I still fall into that rare category of False Negative-- then I will accept it.

[stupid_717]

FYI-- a great educational video on HIV transmission by Dr. Becky MD. I think this answers most of the questions commonly asked!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojx1A3Jmx2w

[Teak]

Again numbers don't mean a thing. The answers to a risk rely on the testing.

[orangebox]

So again:

I tell you 2 Days before that this ******* rash is coming again( it was the 2nd Time , the first time was for 3 weeks for 1-2 days)

Now this rash was starting on Saturday Morning and goes away on Sunday:

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3618/p1010892wq9.jpg


I look for fever, fatique etc nothing else but only this rash


no i found hiv rash i the acute phase which looks like mine.

I never have a rash like this one before the riskday

[Teak]

Don't post again until you get your conclusive test result. We can't add anymore than what has been said already. Get your 3 month conclusive test and be done with it.

[orangebox]

Today 42 after Risk i did a HIV Rapid Test again

it comes negative back


how big are now my change that im HIV - ??

Regards


orangebox