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237039 tn?1264258057

Chest Pains without enzymes showing a heart attack

I have been experiencing severe chest pains much like that when I had my prior heart attacks. I went to the ER over a week ago and after a stress test, it was determined that it was angina. But now, not only do I have the chest pains, I am having skipped beats that takes my breath away. It is so hard to catch my breath at times. I also have a feeling of faintness from time to time. I am without insurance, so I can't follow up with a cardologist, but I know there is something wrong. I can't convince the residents at the county hospital of this. I am wondering if a heart cath would prove this. It sucks today without insurance. I always had it until I lost my job. I went to the ER with chest pains and shortness of breath shortly after I lost this job and before I could put a policy in place. They found the right coronary artery was blocked 90%. That was it. I had been diagnosed with CAD and now no insurance will accept me unless I have around $800 a month for a policy that won't cover the CAD for 12 months anyway................Please help!!
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214864 tn?1229715239
SO glad to see the update! Sorry PVC Queen :) , but is not weird at all to me if you look back up, past all the garbage, which I am responsible for, to Chatter†Ally's original post....

Your right coronary artery is blocked 90% which can/will cause the SOB and chest pains. This could cause you to have a heart attack, and If this blockage is considered "organic heart disease", which I do not believe it is, the SVT could be serious as the little write-up says below. I think organic heart disease is a broad term and may be associated with enlargements and heart block. However I would not worry too much about the SVT's. It may just lead to more stress that you surely do not need at this time.

I know from first hand experience that this is true. I have unstable angina (angina at rest) and it is either brought on after over doing it (work), an hour or more after I have rested, or it is immediately brought on by emotional stress. When I let something make me really angry, and stuff it, the angina starts big time. If I react to whatever made me angry, the same thing happens. It is really strange but true. So I seldom get angry. I have learned to cope with it through professional help.

Yesterday I took my grandson to a movie and some shopping. His whiny mood I endured for hours without scolding him. During the drive back home, I pulled oved and took two doses of nitroquick...I have been told by many cardiologist that one should not endure angina. Some believe it is actually damaging your heart muscle.

Do you feel the SVT when it occurs? I may have a tad myself that are getting progressively worse.

Here is just a spill on SVT that is not copyrighted. Good luck and I am hoping that they will stent the RCA very soon. It doesn't hurt a'toll :) I gots 5 .....Keep us updated please and I sincerely apologize for the mess within your post :(

Best

Jack

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Supraventricular Tachycardias

Atrial (supraventricular) tachycardias
The term "supraventricular arrhythmia" refers to a diverse group of abnormal rhythms ranging from chronic atrial fibrillation to paroxysmal sinus tachycardia due to reentry within the sinus node. Supraventricular tachycardia can be broadly defined as any tachycardia requiring the atrium or the atrioventricular (AV) node, either in whole or in part, for its perpetuation. The atrial arrhythmias vary considerably in their rate and regularity, their clinical manifestations and the setting in which they occur. These rhythms are characteristically abrupt in onset and termination and are often seen in patients who do not have evidence of organic heart disease. Although these disturbances in rhythm are generally benign, in patients with organic heart disease a rapid supraventricular rhythm may produce significant hemodynamic complications. In some patients with pre-excitation syndromes and antegrade conduction down an accessory pathway, there is a risk of sudden death.
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237039 tn?1264258057
I just wanted to give you all an update on my condition. I went to the doctor last week with severe shortness of breath and chest pains. The EKG showed supraventricular tachycardia. So with the symptoms and the history of heart disease I was advised to return to the ER. Which I will do tomorrow. My friends have really been pushing me to go through with this. I just get tired of going in and having to repeat myself because I am not under any one cardiologist. I will update you all as soon as I can............
Thank you all for your advice. And I never turn down a prayer. I will be taking several of those with me.

Ally
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Thank you so much for these kind words you have written. I wanted to also thank you for your "brave" words of advice to me, during a heated discussion the other day. People come and go on these forums, but some of us feel the need to hang around and help. I get a sense, or feeling of accomplishment if I can help someone. It is pure therapy for me to share my experiences. I am kind of a shut in, so it helps me more than those I struggle to help, lol.

I am retired and have been since an mi and light stroke. I was actually forced into retirement because I no longer had perfect health, which is what my life's work required.

I had a second stroke that was not as light as the first over a year ago. Both effected my guord more than my body :)

My 9 year old grandson is here for 3 months, so I will be busy with him, but will try to post when I can.

Yep, Tony is about to get his degree in EPeasiology, lol (EP). Anxiety is a killer I do believe and I am talking about the kind that effects our mind-body functions through stress and chaos. Stress done me in and will do others the same.

Of late, I am having trouble with my diastolic heart function. Certain measurements have shown this, i.e. my slightly enlarged left atrium and really high left ventricular end diastolic filling pressure. One problem that is more than likely the cause, or one of the causes is failure of my LV to relax after it beats and allow for proper filling from my LA.

I was thinking that since my mi, or even before, I have never been totally able to relax my chest. It may sound far fetched, but I wonder if this has had an effect on the muscle fibers in my heart, or LV? Laugh out loud if you feel the need :)

So I think Tony is right on with anxiety. Trouble is, it is real and hard to deal with for me, without the use of mood altering drugs, which I do not like to take at all. I have tried meditation and I like it.

I think that we have to be aware of the desire in all of us to be happy and relaxed. If this desire is not present, then we must dig deep and find it because it is there in all of us :) It just gets covered up by life's old garbage and such. We can do it.

My best to you and thanks again,

Jack
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219704 tn?1338609105
I agree with you. Tony has contributed alot here. I've always found some comfort in his words and knowledge. Even in a few of his harsher posts I've read (concerning anxiety), I felt the underlying message was one of true compassion to help and wisdom.

I've also enjoyed your presence here Jack. In a few of our exchanges, I've found real emotion and a sincere desire to help. As I have told you before, your posts are very informative from a very human standpoint....and that's something I feel is a very fine quality.

Hope this finds you well. Take care.
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This note from you Tony means more to me than you will ever know. I just wish that the people that I still, and always will think so much of, would treat me as I deserved to be treated, no better or worse. I apologize to all of them again. I hate to think that some came here just to punish me, then left. We all have hard times in life and I think I was going through my hardest, I hope, when I was on HCOL. I would rather pass on as to have another stroke. I have never liked to hear or make excuses but there are times when you need to be truthful, which may sound like an excuse.

Thanks again for the kind words and compliment. Maybe sometimes I will tell you that I personally know that you have helped an endless number of people with their arrhythmias and other heart disorders. You have calmed their fears and gave them hope with your vast knowledge of the subject. I won't say it now though, people may think we are just swapping compliments here :)

Jack
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Jack. Please don't leave.  You need this Forum and this Forum needs you.  You have a wealth of knowledge and personal experiences as well as the desire to share it.  I realize you and I have had our differences on the HCOL board but that's in the past as far as I am concerned.

Regards

Tony
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LOL, it took me forever to find this again and I thought it had poofed as I forgot the thread title and access. I should not post, not here, not anywhere, and I apologize again to Chatter who is appropriately trying to stay de-stressed (and should, as this is all silly nonsense and only a temporary digression). On the other hand, I wanted to respond to those who speciifically named me. I have never been good at being transparent or anonymous. It is a personal flaw LOL!

Celeste, you sound like a very sweet and sincere woman. I wish I could stay and learn your story (and probably others who are here but, once burned, twice shy, on a semi-public site like this one). [I think this is the hcol replacement site no one was coming to? or is this somewhere else?].

I wish you all well anyway.... :) TY, Celeste, for your response(s) to me and to others I see above, and if the contamination has extended here and especially if I have added to it, I am sorry. There are other sites with more zealous moderation. If you feel you need support, do not give up looking around.

U&A (why does that sound odd and maybe even ominous to me already?).... You know me not at all (or do you?....and, if you do, why would you make these pronouncements regarding my personality style?). I have to tell you, quite frankly, that I value your opinion less than the extent to which I expect you know me....no insult intended. I just have WAY better reality testing now, about these sites and some of the people and their issues who/which inhabit them. And just who are you?? :) Masks off?? Hard to pay any attention at all to those who hide....:)

Vienna, I appreciate the ?compliment.... I think anyway....I cannot stay 'though, whatever you may choose to call me, and I still wish you all the best although I do not think I truly know you. I wondered who "Vee" was and now I know :). Are you a Cdn?

Jack? BE WELL!! MIDCAB sounds infinitely better to me than CABG. HONESTLY!! You and I have the same nasty genetics and similar physiology: left dominant coronary artery system and strong familial history. You have had 3 years to prep for this surgery...I had 4 days in early 2004 (I was 52 then) to prep for open heart CABG. You CAN do this! It is not such a biggy. My issues were complications. The surgery was a piece of cake...well, sort of, not really LOL!...Still, 't was better than I expected. :)

BTW, is there really a wife of that name--the poster? You have no idea how that affected some and even extended people LOL....You see, I am a videogame nut and I 'worked it thru' on a couple of games for weeks/likely months (now saved to the hard-drive of my computer as a sort of...what?...LOL...tribute/memorial/penance?? I am sure the saves and desktop icons would have gone eventually!). These were games featuring you and your family by name as I recalled or had been informed, post mortem, and included all the' featured players' on the various sites, villains and heroes...Silly me LOLOLOL!! This should free up some megabytes for me for sure LOLOLOL!!

I apologize for my irreverence and tell you I am still glad you are all still alive (ALL of you, despite some of you being mighty twisted). I am hugely glad actually. It means good sh-- happens as well as just the usual , regular  'sh-- happen'-ing'.... Also it says that we are all survivors in some strange way. Anyone else not expect to get to this age?...or not understand why we have?

Fear not, cardiac newbies. These people (the principal players') are just frustrated. They are actually full of information and support but most of them feel so helpless that they fight among themselves. I think they are all useful and worthy people, even the cantankerous ones. If you ask them for help, they will maybe behave better...:).They are good-hearted, despite their cardiac issues, and they need a focus. Me? I am going back to my (LOL surreal?) life....:)

When my specific madness is past LOL, perhaps I shall return.

Bonne choix!

j

PS Vienna is from Canada?

PPS Oops, sorry, I think I was the one to 'wax eloquent'......
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This is so strange!  Oh my.  Let's get back on topic.
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This has gone way to far. This board is supposed to be moderated. I haven't checked yet, but I would assume that Med Help International receives funds from prestigious institutions like the Cleveland Clinic and the National Jewish Research and Medical. My wife has been treated at National Jewish and I have been treated at the Cleveland Clinic once and plan to have surgery there fairly soon.

I am going to contact these institutions and ask them to read all of the garbage written on this board about me. I have CAD and other heart problems. Anxiety is documented to cause angina in myself. These false accusations should never have been allowed to be made. I have never threatened to kill anyone, even after the second stroke I had, plus the alcohol I consumed. I may be dumb, but I am not crazy. Death threats are a serious offense and had I made them, one or more of you would have turned me in and I would probably went to jail.

Had the moderator assigned to this heart board done the right thing, she would have immediately banned all of you who have made accusations against me, such as the death threats. All of you have violated the terms of use of this board, without impunity.

I have done nothing wrong here on this board. I came here only to give and get support. Yet "Jim" has treated me like an animal. I believe that when the moderator of this board said "if there is any proof then show it, or stop the accusations"; it appears by this statement that if there was proof then she would let all things from past events not occurring on THIS board, whether true or not, "PLAY OUT" to the end. This is what has happened and I feel very depressed about how this was handled.

Read the agreement that you signed before you joined this website. I have copied all of the accusations made here, along with the degrading trash talk by the "Jim" character. Legally any of you along with this website can be held responsible for deformation of character.

If the board is properly cleaned up, I will harbor no ill will toward anyone as long as I am not persecuted by anyone for past gang fights on a now defunct heart support forum.
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Am I in the "new order"?  If not, I'd like to get in.  If so, I'd like to be # 3.
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Well, Celeste,  if you hadn't noticed that  Vienna is part of the "new board order", you have missed some of the most arrogant, insulting comments on the board.  You can be sure she will "wax eloquent" after this post.............As for *some* of the others.not all,  they suffer from varying degrees  of mental, or emotional, (I'm not knowlegable about psyche speak ) "issues".  and you are right, they sure seem to have taken over the board.
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I had not noticed that you yourself were part of this "new board order", but thanks for the warning. :)
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Why, thank you very much for thinking of me.

And, hello right back atcha!
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Hey Tush!!, I missed you. Honest.
IslandMomma - yeah, it was disappointling to have the sham played on us.  Excuses are made, apologies are made, eh, life goes on...What is the old saying, "Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me."??
Awake - you excel at the nasty comments yourself.
V - good day
Jack - drama is not necessary.  If you truly want to help you do not have to make yourself a victim.  If you have pride in yourself, that should be enough.  You threw a death threat at me, but I didnt care then, and dont now.  Dont wish you ill, I just find it easier on my heart to ignore your personalities.
Jim - hello, didnt want to just ignore you
Chatter - sorry for the hijack of your post.
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Are you a "shrink" too?:)
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Ya :)
New people came. Just like as a World Turns. Just like as people move, just like we born and die....they are (WE ARE) book-marked that site, we might be here to stay..........we don't need a permit from the OLD posters ,do we? :)

Oh and before I forget THAT board is not  that board you had before us, you got a new board as we all know a board for all your PVC needs where you can feel free from us, remember? I could go there too and all of us new people, we not only have heart disease, but arrhythmias as well. I personally wont, I respect your "playground" and PVC support group THERE.  

Support has many different forms. Hugging and being sweet only one way. Just let everybody be as he /she is.

This is a new board order, like it not; you and all those old posters whom feeling the same about us, just deal with it finally would you?:)

Have a great week-end ALL .

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You have passive aggressive written all over you.  
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islandmomma: "I have been watching these dynamics and have been disillusioned by them for more than three years now. The same group of people/prominent players simply rotate from site to site as sites are dropped or, as individuals, the people are banned. Someone shoulfd be doing a dissertation on these dynamics.... JMO. "

It seems "they" have found a new playground and with all the drama and nasty remarks, have managed to run off quite a few people that really needed some support. It's really sad when you think about it. I feel like I'm watching horrible re-runs of Beverly Hills 90210, only with new players and more back-stabbing.

Anyway, I wish you the best. May you find health, kick the biggy insurance companies kesters, and decide to re-visit us. Most of us members (speaking of those that I have come to know that have been around here for awhile) are actually quite nice, compassionate, and knowledgable and really will have your best interests at heart.

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I f  you write  as a  "shrink "as our Sue once called you , or "headhunter" or psychiatrist as you are called at north or just jan bc....always interesting to read you  islandmomma...good to see you are clicking........
...and I hope you save this site to re-visit.
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It is real a pity: no edit button here isn't it?:)
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I do not know this place, Celeste, and regret intruding. I only know some of the people and was led here by others who knew I had an interest some time ago. I shall retreat now and have not saved the site to re-visit.

I have no hostility as far as I can find it in me re this issue... I have lots of 'real' sources if I need any to add hostility to cardiopulmonary disease itself and post CABG, as well as being now well into litigation with biggy insurance companies.. I choose to be as positive as I can be. My new goal is to be less trusting/stupid/naive. For me, that is a HUGE one!!

I have been watching these dynamics and have been disillusioned by them for more than three years now. The same group of people/prominent players simply rotate from site to site as sites are dropped or, as individuals, the people are banned. Someone shoulfd be doing a dissertation on these dynamics.... JMO.

I say again "Beware, those of you who truly seek support and info on these sites, you shall find out that there are other pitfalls to watch out for". I nonetheless understand (and have been there) re the need to know and seek support.

I do not mean to insult anyone here before, since, or henceforth. I suspect that none of us want to do that. If this post is mistrusted, then it shall be.... I just hoped to spare someone equally naive a disillusionment if all is believed as presented on this (or any other) site.

IM
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Jack~
I see no reason for you to go.
The important thing is that you have helped yourself get better. Mental breakdowns are no different then any other illness. We all have our breaking point and god knows the havoc physical illness and mental stress can cause or the lengths one will go to find relief.
You've tried to make your peace, you've apologized enough.

Forgive yourself, let go of the past, and leave the rest to whallow...

islandmomma~
You posted right as I did. My post above was not directed at you. Though I don't know you, or about you, you seem to be a kind and caring and most importantly, forgiving women.
Not that it matters, but you've restored some of my faith in people.
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Don't be silly. I meant no ill will. I never did. Your 'demon' is not an uncommon one nor unknown in my family. It makes you no less worthwhile Jack. It just makes you much more vulnerable and much more unpredictable.

Let this be, I beseech you. I apologize for needing to verify this whole thing for myself....

We all have our various demons...mine are not that different...

Nite Alabama Jack!!:). I am sorry for disturbing your new place and am now shutting up (unless you want a response, in which case, I am sure that you will let me know)....

Good luck, fella (no sarcasm intended---I have generally not been good at the arts of sarcasm or subterfuge---sorry)....

j
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