My heart has been skipping for about 4 years now. I am 33 yr male in good health. Two years ago I had a 24 hour
holterHolter monitor (24h), echo, elecrto cardio, thyroid test and chest xray. According to my doc. no problems present. I was however diag. with GAD and was given Zanax for about two months. Took myself off with docs approval and started natural therapy for GAD. I seem to get heart skips (beats
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normalNormal saline flush again) when under stress or just whenever. It usually catches me off guard and is very upsetting. To the point where I become anxious and or very depressed. I have been researching the possibility of a gastro connection though not convinced. I do suffer from occasional
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Vesicoureteral reflux usually from wrong foods. I am 6'2 and 235 lbs. Heart
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Taking your carotid pulse resting 72 and BP is 130/82 I thought a lower weight may help. I have also begun exercising more vigorously, seems to eleviate the symptoms for short periods of time. I live in a northern Ontario Canadian community and my
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Family troubles - resources doc has moved to another city. Like most other people in this community now have to resort to a walk in clinic for med help. I find this frustrating as you nget a different doc. every time. Please write back with any suggestions.
Radio Guy.
I stopped my exercise program because I got tired of the several hours afterwards when they were out of control. I had all the tests a couple years ago, and I was told everything was normal. Well, something is a little off because I don't think these miss fires are how the heart is suppose to work. Do I keep going back for more tests? I don't think so. I have just decided to accept them, and if I drop dead then I guess the pvc's and pac's will no longer be a problem.
What I am saying is if you have all the tests, and nothing bad is found, then what else can you do? It also seems like the how many is too many, and when you treat them, changes from year to year and doctor to doctor. The only thing that remains unchanged is that they are a mystery and millions of people have them. Good luck.
First, try to give a answer to Squims. The difference between PVC and PAC is that, although both are permature contractions not originated by the sinus mode (were the electric impulse for the contractions should be normaly originated), PAC's have origin in the atrias and PVC has origin in the ventriloques. For what I have read, and as I also have experienced, PAC/PVC are more frequent (or we notice them more) when we are anxious, so, yes, anxiety plays a big role on it.
Now, since I'm also new in having frequent PVC, here is some question to the more experienced (unfortunately) people in this forum. Is it normal to a person that as none or very sporadical PVC a day (less than 5 PVC/day) can start one day to have about 500-600 PVC/day for a period of days or weeks. This is happening to me since 3 days ago. Had a Holter a month ago that was normal (only 2 PVC) and a stress test 2 weeks ago also normal (only 1 PVC in the begining of recovery period). Also, very detailed blood and urine analyses ok. 2 years ago had a normal echocardiogram and Dr. didn't ask for another now.
I just wanted to let you know as I know how scary this can feel. I was told the spasms can feel very similar to heart palps and that is often why people are misdiagnozed. Good luck with everything.
Just where does one post this kind of info and or ask questions related to arythmia ?
I used to really freak about PVC's but when I had all the tests including a stress-echo and was told that things were fine (even with some trace MR and TR and even some PI), I had a choice either to accept those findings or continue through life in a state of constant agitation--no fun by itself but especially bad for someone experiencing PVC's as anxiety only exacerbates the condition.
So now when I experience a PVC (not nearly as frequently anymore which I am sure is due to decreased anxiety) I just decide to ignore them. Sometimes, if the PVC is a particularly forceful beat or if I have more than one in a row (like 3 with a few normal beats in between) I have to consciously decide to forget about it. But I do it; I make that decision. Then before you know it, I really have forgotten about it and I'm fine. In the past, I would begin to worry, sometimes for the whole day, maybe experiencing a few more and really freaking out--taking my pulse and blood pressure, etc. Just a vicious cycle.
Everynow and then I come to the board for reassurance. I admit it. It's a hard thing to completely let go of. But if you can get yourself mentally in a good place about these things, you can really effect the quality of you life.
Good luck, everybody and thanks!
Everyone tell's that PVC, PAC´s, skipped or ectopic beats or extra systoles (I don't know if other names exist)are harmless in a structural normal heart. As I read also in these posts, someone could have none or very sporadical PAC/PVC and then, for unknown reason, they can start to be much more frequent, like hundreds a day or even more - And Dr.(s) continue to say that they are harmless. Ususlly cardiologists of Cleveland Clinic say here that only about 20.000/day should be of really concern but I read in other places that some physicians (I don't know if they are top cardiologists like the one in Cleveland Clinic which for me are more certified) start to concern if there are more than 25/day, or 100/day? - I think the Cleveland Clinic Dr(s) opinion are more credible - What's your opinion friends? - What do your Dr(s) and cardiologists say?
Make your post right here.
Let us hear about your heart stopping and restarting.
Sounds serieus.
What was it?
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Goodbey - ***Ianna***
Hi Mr. Cruz,
What is the secret to getting you questioned posted? I notice you have several questions posted. I never am able to ask a question (always full). Thank goodness you and others like you have similar concerns as myself.
Anyway, I was just curious.
Take care!
My symptoms are very similar to yours. I also get the heart skip where I feel a pause and then an big beat and then normal again. I also have been under quite a bit of stress. I had terrible problem with heartburn and my doctor prescribed nexium. It has really worked great.
I had all of the various tests performed. My holter monitor showed 911 extra atrial beats within a 24-hour period. I also went to a cardiologist at a top hospital in Chicago and he told me that there is nothing I can do except take a beta blocker (Toprol). I have decided not to take it because, it only affects the symptom and not the cause.
Doctor said that in extreme cases, they could locate the renegade cells that are causing the extra beats and stop them from doing so. I told him that I would rather live with this than go through such a procedure that has many side effects and risks.
The one thing that I want to add to this discussion is that while I have felt this condition most of my life to a very minimal extent, my problems started last year when I had one of the most stressful days of my life. From that day on, the fluttering has not stopped. While I have periods where it does not happen for week or two at a time, I experience it almost every day.
Do other people have the same experience? It seems like doctors discount the anxiety part of the equation.
Also, I notice that if I do not eat right, the condition is more prevalent..e.g. if I skip lunch. Also, caffeine makes the condition worse so I have stopped drinking coffee.
Finally, the condition is worse at night -- especially when I go to bed.
Mike
Yes, I am a perfcetionistic person and I do get anxious - but no more than at other times in my life. And I have long periods when everything is fine and I'm not anxious, but the thumping continues. I too went on a course of Beta-blockers, which minimised it somewhat, but I could still feel them. I didn't like the tiredness that went with it. I am fit and not overweight and I do not smoke, drink very little and have only moderate caffein intake. I also do not eat meat - only fish, dairy produce & vegetables.
I am particularly interested in the comment made by someone (sorry, can't remember who) that it may be connected to gastrointestinal problems. I sometimes suspect that my stomach is not too comfortable. I'll follow up on that. Thanks so much for just showing me that I'm not alone. It drives me crazy at times.
In some positions working in the computer I also trend to have more PVC's. As well, when I have more PVC's I also trend to feel a gas sensation, over my upper gastrointestinal parts, coming up. I don't know if it's the nervous that PVC origin or there is a gastro reflux that induct the PVC. I suspect of the both and this leeds to the subject anxxiety. I also feel much more PVC when I'm anxious.
After researching PVC's and trying every remedy in the book, I finally conceded that I was powerless over them and I better accept them. Being a chronic worrier it took some work, but I am finally to the point where they are insignificant to me. I can even fall asleep easily, even when I am experiencing them. I weaned myself off of all prescribed drugs also. Mind over matter. If you don't mind, they won't matter. Good luck everyone!
I'm new to this forum I recently been having a irregular heartbeat. I have seen my doc he gave me a EKG said everything looks normal had a holter monitor test done now he says
I need to see a cardiologest but everything if fine no need to worry. Well I'm SCARED OUT OF MY MIND I'm 25 no family history
of heart problems. I have been to the ER already thinking I'm having a heart attack. They said I had a panic attack and gave me
some Zanax. that kinda took the edge of the worry. this forum and website has really helped to get my mind off this problem
my mom is a nurse and my wife is almost done with nursing school they keep telling me to relax but I just can't.
I have been trying to post a ? for the docs but it always
says its full.
could this be just REAL bad anxiety????
Thanks
I'm sure I will be all Fine.
Thanks again
Thanks
I also think walking or biking in nature will give me something positive to think about outside my body instead of always looking inward. I will start this new program as soon as I'm over the flu and report back my progress.
I am very discouraged. I do NOT tolerate the meds. And now I'm on them again.
Two days after the procedure, my husband took me to the ER. Now I have pac's! About 3,000 per minute. The meds give me about 3-4 hours of relief per day, but the rest of the time I'm feeling these. Will go back to EP doc tomorrow for yet another holter to see if they are still pac's or pvc's.
Has anyone else has ablation done?
1- Valves in the heart opened at the right time for the mis-timed beat to force blood back into the lungs.
2- The "second fear" or adrenalin generated by your body in response to the fear of the mis-timed beat.
In either case it seems to be of no interest to doctors. I have been told by a cardiologist that it doesn't mean anything and not to worry about it. He was not interested enough to even ask questions about the feelings I felt.
Hang in there, Steve
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How is the excercise-program that you planned developing?
You must be over the flu now ;-), so tell me, do you go walking and biking now in nature?
Does it do you good?
I'm thinking of the same strategy.
I have a home-trainer, but outside, you are right, it's different; much more distraction; but scary too, you know: WHAT IF.....
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How are you doing, and what did you do about food and supplements? Did you change, left out or add some things.
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Bey, greetings from Holland.
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...and the beat goes on....
Yes, I am over the flu. It only lasted about a week or so. I have started exercising again and it makes a big difference being outside. When I was using the treadmill all I could think about was my chest and what might be going on inside. When I'm outside my brain is occupied with all that is around me. I have not increased my workouts up to where I would like them yet. It's more from a lack of time than anything else. I need to make the time since Spring has begun to arrive where I live (Southern California).
I have also noticed that my heart is not bothering me nearly as much as it used to. I can still tell that there are PVC's happening but not as often. They are also harder to feel. The less I think about them the fewer I have, (or at least the less I can feel them). I think that the nerve pathways that connect my heart to the worry center of my brain are getting out of practice.
The other thing I am doing to improve my health is the pulse test for allergies. It makes a very big difference with my heart when I work to avoid the foods that make it speed up. I have been putting off getting serious with the self testing but now I realize just what the benifits will be and I'm setting aside the time this week. The book didn't take much time to read. I have already read it for the second time including underlining the important parts. I will let you know the results.
Steve
I'm glad you feel so well now.
I too have periods of time in which I feel a lot better.
Just this week was a lesser good time.
Don't know why.... maybe the full moon.... heavy solar flares....after all we are children of the cosmos----oh well...
Will you let me know the title of the book you are talking about? I think you are right about food related palps. I allready noticed that many times.
Then I have to find out if the book is ever translated into the Dutch language and is sold here somewhere; or else I have to order it at Amazon and read it in English (which is harder for me; picture me sitting here with my two dictionary's: Dutch-English and English-Dutch writing to you...haha...)
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Stay well Steve, bey ***Ianna***
Ik vond niet het boek dat in het Nederlands wordt geschreven. Het boek zou moeilijk kunnen zijn te lezen. Het boek gebruikt medische woorden en vijftig jaar geleden geschreven. Ik denk u met goede gezondheid zal worden beloond als u het boek kunt
lezen.
(I did not find the book written in Dutch. The book could be difficult to read. The book uses medical words and was written fifty years ago. I think you will be rewarded with good health if you are able to read the book.)
As you can see, language can be a problem for all of us. Good luck.
Steve
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You used some kind of translator?
Never mind.
I was very suprised to read the Dutch.
Thanks, that was nice.
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***Ianna***
www.worldlingo.com/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html
Steve
Thanks to everyone who shares.