LVEF deterioration with age

[nspower]

Does low LV function (30-35% ef) from ischemic MI, further reduce with age? Is the progration of disease faster at older age?

[jrbon]

You never can say, we are all different. Also there might be complications with almost every organ in the body.

Yes Ribose is somehow difficult to get it. I get it by mail from USA. Check your inbox.

Jesus

[nspower]

I always thought 30-35% Ef is a safe range and will be able to sustain quality of life until natural age of a person.

But it appears that, with good efforts, an ef of 30-35% can sustain normal quality of life, at the most,  for 10-15 years depending on condition of other body functions.  

I agree with you that nutrient supplement will play important role in maintaining heart functions fro longer durations.  

Many thanks for advise on nutrients. I take some of these, but others like Ribose....etc. not sure if I get them from natural products?

[jrbon]

I agree, this is the normal evolution of the disease but I do not think it is related to age, it is the fact that his heart is getting weaker after 15 years of been overloaded.

When I refer to KEY nutrients I was mainly referring to:

The ones that you loose due to long chronic heart problems:
Vitamin D - Vitamins B1, B6, B12 - Co enzyme Q10

The specific ones involved in cardiac metabolism of which you need extra supplies:
Ribose - Taurine - Carnitine - Selenium

Jesus

[nspower]

Thank for the response.

In last 4 years post ischemic MI, my ef has been stable at 30-35%. I am now 52 yrs.

But a senior collegue of mine who was doing very well with ef of 35% (post ischemic MI) for last 15 years, is now experiencing deterioration in his heart function in last two years. His ef initially went down to 15% but than recovered to 22% with lot of activity restrictions. He is now 60 y.o.

He is well informed about his disease so I rule out any negligence on his part.

His cardiologist informed that it is progression of disease. Was wondering if age is the factor, since all other factors have been more or less stable until recently?

Or coould it be medications over last 15 years effecting body's support system adversely and overloading heart?


  

[jrbon]

I might be wrong but I would say no ... I mean a person that is diagnosed for the first time with EF 30% when he is 70 y/o, it is not in a worst situation that another that gets the same diagnose at 50 years.

A different point is if the person that was diagnosed at 50 years of age is in a worst situation when he reach 70 years than when he was having 50 ...Of course YES, but this also happen in you are a healthy person.

Now there is an extra factor, HF is a chronic disease, and as such the body loose KEY nutrients at a faster pace than in a healthy one. My opinion is that usually doctors do not look at that aspect of it, if you do, and you are not suffering further blockages, I do not see a reason for you to loose EF.

A different situation is if your low EF it is not due to ischemic issues.

Jesus