Nutrition Health Chat: Tuesday, Dec. 8th, 5-6 PM Eastern. Learn how vitamins, minerals, and phytonutrients affect your health. Free live Q&A. Join us!
Member Comments are provided by individuals and reflect their personal opinions only. Under NO circumstances should you act on any advice or opinion posted in this forum.  ALWAYS check with your personal physician before taking any action regarding your health! MedHelp International and our partners, sponsors and affiliates have no obligation to monitor any comments posted on this site, or the content and/or accuracy of such exchanges. MedHelp International does not endorse the views of any user.
Heart Disease  (Expert Forum)
 | 
PFO/PAC's
Answered by
Cleveland - OH
This forum is for questions and support regarding heart issues such as: Angina, Angioplasty, Arrhythmia, Bypass Surgery, Cardiomyopathy, Coronary Artery Disease, Defibrillator, Heart Attack, Heart Disease, High Blood Pressure, Mitral Valve Prolapse, Pacemaker, PAD, Stenosis, Stress Tests.

PFO/PAC's

by finetilthree, Dec 06, 2006 12:00AM
35 Year old female, now 7 months postpartum with third child.  Six days postpartum I had afib that lasted one hour and converted on its own in the ER.  Three days later had afib again only for about 10 minutes.  Event monitor showed 1 minute of afib, PACs with aberrant conduction, 1 interpolated PVC.  Doctor put me on 25 mg. Toprol XL, no additional episodes of afib since.  Echo with doppler shows pfo with small left to right shunt.  All other tests normal except for inverted t waves and ST segment depression on thallium stress test, no perfusion defects. EKGs still show inverted t waves and 1mm st depression in leads II, III, AVF, V3-V6.  Now having daily PAC's and PVC's.  Holter monitor showed 13 PAC's and 2 PVC's in 24 hours.  Doc suspects that afib was caused by hormones, strain of childbirth.  My questions:
1.  Can pfo be opened during the strain of natural childbirth? I had no epidural this time and pushed extremely hard.
2.  PACs never noticed until after starting metoprolol to control afib.  Could metoprolol be causing extra beats?
3.  Is there any significance of inverted t waves and st depression even though perfusion images were normal?
4.is it safe to wean off and see what happens?
5.  Why would the afib/PACs/PVCs suddenly start after the birth of my third child?
6. If I lay down suddenly or bend over quickly, I can cause PACs to start.  Could this be mechanical?  Holter monitor confirms more ectopy when laying down.
7.Could I die from these extra beats?
8.Is PFo causing this?
Two cardiologists have told me I will not die, but I am consumed with this.

by Cleveland Clinic, Dec 06, 2006 12:00AM
finetilthree,

thanks for the post. Congrats on another child.

1. Can pfo be opened during the strain of natural childbirth? I had no epidural this time and pushed extremely hard.

PFOs are very common. It is possible that a shunt through a PFO could happen with strenuous activity. None of the symptoms you mention could really be attributed to a PFO.

2. PACs never noticed until after starting metoprolol to control afib. Could metoprolol be causing extra beats?

Some people have more PAC/PVC at a slower heart rate. It might be possible that the motoprolol could contribute in this way.

3. Is there any significance of inverted t waves and st depression even though perfusion images were normal?

It is a finding on the ECG. If it is not dynamic and you've had an ischemic evaluation, there really is no significance.

4.is it safe to wean off and see what happens?

I cant make specific medication recommendations without seeing you in person. Usually its not an issue.

5. Why would the afib/PACs/PVCs suddenly start after the birth of my third child?

Hard to say. I would make sure your thyroid is ok. Most of the time we dont know why people develop PACs and PVCs or why they fluctuate over time.

6. If I lay down suddenly or bend over quickly, I can cause PACs to start. Could this be mechanical? Holter monitor confirms more ectopy when laying down.

Changes in position can cause fluctuation in the filling pressures of the heart and positional changes in the thoracic structures. one could postulate that either could play a role.

7.Could I die from these extra beats?

No.

8.Is PFo causing this?

No.


good luck
Member Comments (2)

by finetilthree, Dec 06, 2006 12:00AM
To: Doctors
I omitted the word beta blocker in question 4.  Thank you so much for your time.
Continue discussion
RSS Expert Activity
What You Can Learn From Tiger Woods...
1 hr ago by Steven Y Park, MD
When the Mexican Drug Trade Hits th...
19 hrs ago by Arnold L Goldman, D.V.M.
In the ER: Coffee, anyone?
Dec 02 by Jon Geller, D.V.M.