Dear Forum Participants,
We are sorry we have had to dramatically limit the number of questions we allow on a
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Unfortunately we must ask...
-Please do not post a question under someone else's question, it will not be answered.
-If you <B> really really </B> need <I>urgent</I> medical help the Web is not the place to be, please call your personal physician or your
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-If you need a second opinion, we cannot recommend a better institution than The Cleveland Clinic Heart Center.
Again, sorry for the cutbacks :(
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Med Help International
Monique
Any information you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
it is that questions are no longer being taken. It seemed to have been and absolutely wonderful service for absolutely free and I'm sure it will be missed
Unfortunately, like others here, my specific question has not been covered at all within the archives. Are there other question/answer forums such as this dealing with heart disease?
If not -- is there a way this forum could be redirected as some sort of 'membership' forum? Would anyone be willing to pay a fee for the privelidge of sharing this information here
Its all very well for us to be disappointed with our loss but I feel that we should be looking for solutions to be able to continue rather than accept a defeat due to lack of funding.
I also propose that a user fee be put in place either in the form of cost per submission or a membership fee. I personally would be willing to work with an arrangement like that where everyone who uses the resource pays for it. For someone who cannot afford the fee, free access to view the forum should be allowed to review the correspondence for answeres but anyone wishing to submit information should pay the fee.
Lets work together on this.
Thank you
John McQueen
Nancy
I agree that a membership or user fee would be ideal!! What can we do to put this into place??
Marie
Also, I've seen some posts that refer to other forums. Could those of you who know, please post those sites? I've been looking for something specifically for heart disease and arrythmias (Ventricular Tachychardia) as opposed to more generic medical support areas. Thanks!
All of the forums have limits on them, some more than others, this one was set to 15 questions per day (450 questions per month) and has been forced down to 1 question per day.
Unfortunately if someone clicks on the [POST] Button and elects not to post, the counter still counts up :(
Couple of things to note....
(a) I'm not sure what volume the other sites can handle but the Heart Forum is handling several hundred thousand visitors per month.
(b) We (at Med Help) have been and are continuing to work hard in order to gain sponsorships for this and the other forums. At this writing we are <B>extremely</B> optimistic about some of our prospects in the near future... so take heart? (sorry for the pun!)
(c) We know that everyone's questions are somewhat unique, however, please take some extra time to research answers that are here already.. we have TENS OF THOUSANDS of items/articles.
(d) The idea of charging a membership fee has been kicked around in the past and has some negatives and positives associated with it. What we will do is put up a poll in the Forum and see what YOU guys think about it and whether you (the community) want to support this.
Thanks for letting me drone.
Regards,
Phil
Med Help
I have been wondering for some time why there couldn't be a section before questions somewhat like they have over at the MGH neurology site: A list of common areas of question. I would suggest that maybe CCF could put in the definition of, say, MVP and list symptoms, etc. before the archived questions relating to the area. That might save CCF from having to answer over and over again the same questions for (example: MVP, tachicardia, PVC, PAC, MVP microsurgery, etc.) very common concerns. IF this could cut down the number of questions coming in, it might be more economical.
Just a thought.
kd
I put the poll online this morning ... we'll see how the turnout is. If you vote a second time it is ignored, however, you can see the raw data in the 2nd and successive votes.
Regards,
Phil
Phil
I definitely think access to the forum itself should be free. Often a person can get enough general information by reading about other people's situation to allow them to be aware of things to discuss with their own physician. All in all, my guess is this site grew out of a marketing idea, although the educational benefits are certainly powerful. If your referrals are up because of it, maybe it's worth maintaining in the current fashion and not charging the participants for your marketing strategy. If not, then offering this as a public service may mean finding resources to support it, whether through corporate sponsorships, your educational budgets, or by charging.
Thanks again
Although there is great money and wealth in this country, most people are not rich or even comfortable. Even if someone has successfully managed their money in their lifetime, a serious illness could wipe out everything for them, thanks to health insurance companies. Pernaps some health insurance companies interested in "good appearances" would donate some funds to this forum. Have you thought of asking their "marketing" departments?
Thanks for your time.
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You should check out the web site www. healingpanic.com. It looks to me it may be very helpful to you. I am trying it also. I have pvc's pac's and lots of funny fluttering everyday sometimes. Dont know if it is anxiety or not but it is worth a try. Maybe its all in our breathing. Please look into this. I hope it helps you.
Monique
It is unfortunate that this board may suffer the consequences of no funding. This forum has been a great place to interact with many different people to ascertain opinions and experiences, both first hand and professional. I have found this interaction very helpful, enlightening and thought provoking. It has helped me not only understand more about the problems that I have, but because of what I have read, it has helped me make one of the most important decisions in my life.
I need to have my aortic valve replaced before the March/April timeframe and it is likely that I will have it done in the Cleveland Clinic near the end of Feburary.
I would have no problem signing up for a reasonable fee.
Would you be willing to share what the costs are for running a web page such this? Could you give a brief summation of where the overhead is for this effort?
Thanks and Good Luck resolving this problem.
Steve
am most certain that you have "saved" many people lives in one way or another. Surely there are drug companies out there just waiting to advertise their newest beta blocker or antiarrhythmic.
The prices we pay for medications and top notch medical specialists leaves little room in my pocket for an annual internet site fee. Ted Turner wants every child in the world to have access to immunizations. Maybe it's a long shot but you could always put our names in the pot. Somebody will come thru.
Don't throw in the towel just yet.
First let me tell you that your support has been wonderful and that we are NOT closing this forum. We have had to limit the number of questions per day that are allowed. I'm really not at liberty to throw numbers out on the Net but money that would be raised via corporate sponsorship or other means will go back directly into expanding the number of questions per day.
To date there have been a few hundred responses to the Quick Poll I put online and it is interesting that around 80% of the people indicated that they would support a small membership fee.
Grassroots is always a great thing. Our concerns with the grassroots efforts then become that we don't want to get into a legal situation with "patients paying for a doctors advice" especially across state lines.
The intent of these forums are to provide general medical education and we feel that after several years of doing this, we have been very sucessful.
In any event.... I'll keep you guys posted! :)
Regards to All,
Phil
Since this is a heart forum I would think there would be a number of companies that would be interested in advertising their products from exercise equipment to computers.
I'm not saying that those who would like to donate money shouldn't do so, but it seems to me that someone who gets their questions answered once or twice are not likely to support the site. What people say they will do and what they will actually do are often two different things.
Personally I am interested in visiting the site on occassion to see if there are any new medical advances to deal with a benign but nagging irregular heart problem (PAC's) that I have (not as bad as it used to be). Generally the answers have been the same. The problem is that many people are asking the same questions that have been answered numerous times, and they could basically find their answers in the archives.
My suggestion is that you could write extensive articles on the typically asked questions, because your responses have essentially been the same. For those people who have unusual questions or questions that are more complex I would suggest you respond to them, and then for the typical questions (palpitations) refer them to the articles written on those subjects. But I would make them extensive and not just a few paragraphs. Cover the angles in the questions that you get in the forum. But also from time to time update them if something comes up that is unusual or insightful.
Just a suggestion.
refer you to medical information within their site such as Heart
Disease, Congestive Heart Failure and so on. The problem with that is, it is all very basic and limited information. Most patients that use this site are very educated and informed of their conditons. We look to this site for more indepth and detailed answers, not just general information that we have already been told. Also the Cleveland Doctors are very good at
refering us to the experts, not only at Cleveland but other places as well. These are the things we all appreciate that many
other sites do not offer. If you have to get advertising sponsorship, we will put up with flashing logos and click on them
to keep you in business. This site is too valuable to lose.
Keep the rhythm!
Just to re-iterate.. .we are NOT closing this forum, just limiting the number of questions per day. We *ARE* seeking support from major corporations for funding. As of this writing I do not think that we would be able to sustain the forum without corporate sponsors.
To date, the costs this forum have been underwritten from The Cleveland Clinic and we are *extremely* grateful for their generosity. Due to unforseen cutbacks at CCF this forum has taken a very large cut in funding.
Cindy and I (Co-Founders of Med Help) are very optimistic that this situation is going to be temporary :)
Regards to all,
Phil
Thanks.
Thank you :-)
CCF is taking one question per day currently, down from 15 per day (prior to January 1). The question of fees is indeed the real issue and it's not as simple as it appears. Some of the concerns are that if we charge a <i>membership fee</i>, whether that construes a doctor/patient contract?
Anyway, we're still vigorously working the issue.
Regards,
Phil
That makes perfect sense. I wish you the best of luck with this as I would hate to see it end.Guess I need to be lucky to be the question asker for the day! :-)
Thanks for the reply. Carol
That makes perfect sense. I would hate to see this forum end. I wish you the best of luck to keep this up and running. Thanks for the reply. I guess I will have to be the lucky one to post the question of the day :-)
Carol
You obviously don't know much about the cost of running a web site. This has nothing to do with greed - it's just a fact. I just want you to know that I was fortunate enough to be treated at the Clinic and had the privilege of having a world famous surgeon operate on me (Dr. Cosgrove). I will be forever grateful. I only wish that Dr. Cosgrove had been able to collect his full fee, as he was deserving. According to my insurance papers, Dr. Cosgrove only received 1/4 of what the charge was because of the contract. He has to accept what my insurance pays. And believe me, for the kind of work he did on me and the skill it involves, he deserved the full amount. So, don't stand in judgement of the Cleveland Clinic - a world class teaching hospital who has rightly earned it's reputation. I will gladly contribute support to this web site.
Can we have an update on what is going on with this site. Are we staying with one question per day or is there a possibility of getting some sponsership in the near future.
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As for me personally, I want to keep the site totally free, both for reading/browsing and for posting questions. All our forums are set up that way. I think that it would be a shame if we limit this and the other forums to only those with the means to pay a membership fee.
Lastly keep in mind, if we did institue a pay-for-question type of service, that brings in all types of legal concerns. Doctor-Patient contracts, medical practice across state lines, etc. etc. So you can see why this is not an easy thing to accomplish.
Regards,
Phil
Jeanie
In the March 15, 2000 issue of HOSPITAL PRACTICE it says "...multibillion dollar medical Internet companies are fighting for your eyeballs." ..."Hoping to educate you about their products, pharmaceutical giants are willing to pay handsomely for Web site banner ads." So, why haven't you gone that route?