Nutrition Health Chat: Tuesday, Dec. 8th, 5-6 PM Eastern. Learn how vitamins, minerals, and phytonutrients affect your health. Free live Q&A. Join us!
Member Comments are provided by individuals and reflect their personal opinions only. Under NO circumstances should you act on any advice or opinion posted in this forum.  ALWAYS check with your personal physician before taking any action regarding your health! MedHelp International and our partners, sponsors and affiliates have no obligation to monitor any comments posted on this site, or the content and/or accuracy of such exchanges. MedHelp International does not endorse the views of any user.
Heart Disease  (Expert Forum)
 | 
Too many drugs???
This forum is for questions and support regarding heart issues such as: Angina, Angioplasty, Arrhythmia, Bypass Surgery, Cardiomyopathy, Coronary Artery Disease, Defibrillator, Heart Attack, Heart Disease, High Blood Pressure, Mitral Valve Prolapse, Pacemaker, PAD, Stenosis, Stress Tests.

Too many drugs???

by Ted723, Mar 19, 2002 12:00AM
I have a few questions...
  I am 43/M, 30+lbs overweight(still losing, but slowly, now). I have a stent in my LAD (90% blockage)2 yrs. ago this past January 2002 (much heavier then). Workout (treadmill, eliptical, weights) 2-3 times per week (heartbeat gets to 130-150 AVG...is this high enough or is Atenelol keeping it down?). Diabetic type 2. Smoke lightly now (about 2 packs/week)
  Here are my meds(all daily doses): Lipitor 20mg once; atenelol 50mg once; Zestril 10mg once; Norvasc 0.5mg (I think) once; Glipizide twice daily(AM & PM); 325mg coated asperin-once; Wellbutrin & Xanax once a day for depression & anxiety. My cardiologist prescribed the Norvasc after the stent implantation... My PCP has prescribed the rest of the meds. He says the goal is to get off the diabetes meds soon. My questions are: Sounds like an awful lot of meds. AND I wonder if some may be for the same thing (repeating??)Is it possible some of these meds are countering the other meds I am taking? My "Lipid Numbers" have been good. Overall cholesterol is around 100. Bad Cholesterol is 88. My "good" cholesterol is "genitically" low according to my doctor and is slow to go up much past 35. My "3 month" sugars(Ab1c ??)are >7. BP is usually 130/85-90.            
  I know the smoking has got to go (and it WILL).
  Secondly, how long will this stent last? Is there a "shelf-life" or some history on the length of time stents stay effective? Can they last indefinately? Any help is greatly appreciated....Thanks.

by CCF-M.D.-CRC, Mar 21, 2002 12:00AM
Dear ted,
This is really a medication management question and beyond the scope of this website.  Medications must be tailored to the individual patient and carefully adjusted depending on the response.  In general I avoid giving medications such as Xanax on a long term basis due to high addiction potential.  Of the blood pressure lowering drugs you are taking (Lopressor, zestril, Norvasc) Lopressor and Zestril have both been shown to have a strong mortality benefit whereas Norvasc is weaker.  

Really the #1 thing you can do to help even beyond any medication you can take is to stop smoking.  You have to make the decision to quit and then do it.  The Wellbutrin may actually help with the withdrawal symptoms so don't delay - Quit today!

Carefully watching your sugars and working on getting the weight off will also help tremendously.
Member Comments (9)

by itsa48, Mar 19, 2002 12:00AM
there are alot of us with our own drug store! sometimes i wonder how i keep them straight...i take liportor 20mg, norvasc 10mg, premerin 1.25 (you don't have to worry about that one) imdur (nitrate) 60mg. 2x, toperal xl 50 mg. clonopin 3x .05 mgs. the purple pill for heart burn (caused from the norvasc)10 mg. and yes asprin 3.25 three times a week.  gee i think i got it all.
so i know how you feel i hate taken them all! but i need them and they are now working for me...i also carry nitro spray if needed, i have cornary artery spasms diagnoised jan 10, and a slight blockage in the same artery as the artery that spasms.

ps. i go friday for my cholesterol check mine is 288 and my good cholesterol is 145, but my heart dr. said that even if lower i will be on the liportor forever.....which is i hope a long time iam 42 year old female. i'm at a good weight and i have changed my diet alot!  excersise is still a problem, i just feel to tired to do this when i work all day. but i know i have to make the change.
good luck to you


by pikamom, Mar 19, 2002 12:00AM
Yup, alot of us are walking pharmacies. I had been on 12 different things around the clock at one time and felt so drugged that I just couldn't take them all anymore. I kept telling my doctors I couldn't tolerate them but was told I needed them all. So I looked at them and decided which ones I thought were helping me the most and got rid of the rest. I was told I'd end up in the hospital and have siezures...none of which happened. I don't advise you do that, but just know you're not alone. Presently I take neurontin 800 mg. 4X a day, ultram 4x a day, elmiron 3x a day, remeron 45 mg. bedtime, viox 25 mg morning, cardizem cd 120 mg once a day, immiprimine 25 mg bedtime. I feel that I'm on a good combination of meds to manage my medical condition yet not be too drugged. Hopefully my liver is surviving all this. I really need to have my stomache looked at, I was on prilosec for awhile because of side effects of all my pills and it made me so mad that I had a new problem caused by pills for my other problems. I have hearburn and stomache pain all the time but try to just ignore it. The prilosec had side effects and it just made me so mad to have side effects from the treatment for the side effects of my meds...ugh!

by hvacman305, Mar 19, 2002 12:00AM
To: Ted723
Ted, you are really going to hate my advice, but here goes... Drop the cigs, the rest will take care of itself.  I was in the very same boat as you, the weight, diabetes, mirror image.  Things changed quickly when I finally quit smoking.  You smoke so little is really a small leap from one world to the other, but it sounds as if you have worked so hard and done so much, this last thing, quitting smoking, is going to work for you.  At least, it did for me.  The drug strengthes diminished, things got easier.  I suggest as a way of quitting, you don't quit... simply extend the time after the urge hits before you light up.  Thats what I did until I recognized that I didn't 'need' them anymore.  Good luck to you... reading your post was like reading a bio of me!

by Ted723, Mar 20, 2002 12:00AM
To: itsa48; TerryLynn § Fly fisher
Thanks alot folks...it's good to know I am not alone...I think it is anyway.
Itsa....Is it the Norvasc that is causing the heartburn? God, I have been having heartburn and indigestion constantly for over a year and a half now!! I never put it with my meds..thought it was just eating too fast or ...hell I have NO IDEA what it could be. Now you bring up the Norvasc thing and its got me wondering...Do you have any confirmation from a Doc that Norvasc is the cause of it?
  I just got my latest numbers yesterday (I go every 3 months)...Overall Cholesterol was 178, good cholesterol was 32 (up from 29 3 months ago) BUT my triglycerides (? spelling?) were up again at 385...& I guess they can't do a bad cholesteral if the Tri's are that high so I don't know what the bad one is, but last time it was very low (88). I think they were high this time 'cause of the Holidays & our Patriots winning the Super Bowl (ALOT of Sunday parties in January) My A1bc (?..3-month sugars) were 7.2....close to the bubble ( supposed to be less than 7).  My doc said to exercise 5 times a week now as I have stagnated at this weight for about two months now. He also said if I quit the butts and drop another 20-25 lbs I can PROBABLY go off most of my meds. Damn...I've ALREADY dropped that much !
  Nobody answered my second set of questions...does anyone know how long stents are supposed to last in there? I forgot to ask my Doc yesterday...duh!!
   By the way...since you are all so kind as to answer my questions, here is my e-mail address and I'd love to hear from you...itsa48, that means you, too :-)
  Oh yeah itsa...I was having the spasms too & thats why my heart Doc put me on the Norvasc to begin with...they are now few and far between, but as that was the same feeling when I went to the ER 2 yrs ago, when it does happen it scares the sh*t out of me...ya know...is it blocking up again? Is it angina?
  Fly...thank you for your encouragement. I WILL do that method that worked for you...again thanks alot.

by Ted723, Mar 20, 2002 12:00AM
Man what a dummy...I forgot the e-mail...***@****

by itsa48, Mar 21, 2002 12:00AM
Do you have any confirmation from a Doc that Norvasc is the cause of it?
Yes for sure it is the norvasc for me i didn't know why all the sudden i was having severe heart burn but when i went to the dr. he said norvasc is  caused it. but the norvasc has been the best meds that have helped me.
i take aciphex now 20 mg per day.
also did you have a heart cath to determine your spasms.  
i get them few and far between now so far this month about one a week. but i know what you mean.

ill try to hit your email, and see how you are.

oh terry, be careful you say you have heart burn and stomach hurts all the time...you no some meds cause this and can cause serious eshosicus (spell) problems.  so there are other even over the counter heartburn, but with the norvasc i had to have the rx kind.

by pikamom, Mar 21, 2002 12:00AM
Yeah, I keep meaning to call and get an appointment to have my stomache looked at. My uncle had esophagus cancer and another one had colon cancer which the doctor said was highly hereditary, when he was diagnosed all his brothers and sisters had to have colonoscopy's, he's now in hospice. I just hate the thought of another pill, but the rolaids and tums aren't doing anything. As for the coronary artery spasms, I haven't had any since starting the cardizem!

by MadisonJordan, Jun 28, 2002 12:00AM
Hello everyone I noticed that a few of you have been taking some medications for weight loss and such.  I just want to let ya'll know that I'm working with a law firm on some class action law suits for some medications that were considered GREAT to take that ended up causing great damage in people.  Some of the medications that we are helping clients with are Fen-Phen, Pondimin, Redux, Serezone, Baycol, Meridia, and Vioxx.  If you are or have taken any of these and are having some unusual side effects or problems after taking these medications.  You might want to call me at (800) 861-2332 so I can help you as best as I can.  My name is Madison.

Related discussions
Continue discussion
RSS Expert Activity
My animal blogs! 
1 hr ago by Justine Lee, D.V.M., DACVECC
Prevention Gains Momentum: Your Gui... 
Nov 29 by Lee Kirksey, MD
What You Don't Know About Breathing...
Nov 24 by Steven Y Park, MD