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hypertension - success stories
Hello everybody. I would like to have some hypertension success stories.
It is important to me - to know that anyone did this!
Please... Please, write HOW did you succeed with your hypertension.
It is important to me - to know that anyone did this!
Please... Please, write HOW did you succeed with your hypertension.
I almost missed your msg because it's about to go to the second page. I don't go beyond the first page. Anyway. . . .I can go back to doing some yoga. It's fun and it sure isn't going to hurt me. My BP is bouncing all over the place right now. I had a "normal" reading for me the other day - 115. Now it's back up over 130. Tomorrow should send me through the roof since it's the day I visit my folks. Very stressful (my Dad is dying and my Mom is. . . .demanding to put it nicely). Oh well, can't go through life without a little stress.
I'm not sure, but I imagine yoga would have a beneficial impact on BP just because it is all about deep relaxation and de-stressing.
Well, that's interesting. Cleveland Clinic. Where does it end? "Normal is 100/60, and anything above that requires immediate medication"? I imagine they're hitting the limits here, but still it's annoying as hell. My BP was -- day and night, without exception and for year after year -- 120/80, and I believed then and still do that that was an absolutely excellent reading. When it started getting erratic in the late 1990s, it came as a huge shock to me. If I could get it back to a reliable 120/80, I'd be the happiest camper in the forest. If I could just get it reliably down into the 130s/<85 range, I'd be pretty content.
As for the anti-hypertension devices, it appears that no one at this or any of the other heart-&-hypertension forums I've checked are familiar with either the Zona Plus or Resperate. Very unfortunate. No one is apparently even trying these things -- they're instead willing to pop pills endlessly, even despite often horrific side effects -- and so we get no comments about them either way, good or bad.
Well, I'm going to order one of the machines and give it a fair trial, and then report the results here and elsewhere. Get at least SOMETHING into the record, and hopefully into Google and Yahoo search results for others to follow.
As for the anti-hypertension devices, it appears that no one at this or any of the other heart-&-hypertension forums I've checked are familiar with either the Zona Plus or Resperate. Very unfortunate. No one is apparently even trying these things -- they're instead willing to pop pills endlessly, even despite often horrific side effects -- and so we get no comments about them either way, good or bad.
Well, I'm going to order one of the machines and give it a fair trial, and then report the results here and elsewhere. Get at least SOMETHING into the record, and hopefully into Google and Yahoo search results for others to follow.
Well, if 110/60 is the new "norm" then I'm doomed. :-) I've heard of Resperate but not the other one. At a different board where I started posting (it was a first for me) they advertised Resperate quite often. I even got an email this morning about it. I've never checked into it or used it since my BP has been fine until recently. Guess I'm no help either. I've heard that yoga breathing helps. Then again, the whole yoga thing is about relaxation and being aware of your body. There's a lot of deep and controlled breathing involved. Same idea?
Sorry I do not know anything about your product.
I saw these revised figures on Larry King live about 3 weeks ago. He had 5 cardiologist, I think 3 were from Clev Clinic, that announced these new figures and also announced a new medication for the "pre-hypertension" category.
I did not know this but Larry King has had bad heart problems for some 20 years. He also admitted he uses viagra and is still going strong.
I certainly agree with your comments as to how Drug Companies work.
I saw these revised figures on Larry King live about 3 weeks ago. He had 5 cardiologist, I think 3 were from Clev Clinic, that announced these new figures and also announced a new medication for the "pre-hypertension" category.
I did not know this but Larry King has had bad heart problems for some 20 years. He also admitted he uses viagra and is still going strong.
I certainly agree with your comments as to how Drug Companies work.
mariop, I've never heard of 110/70 called "normal." Two or so years ago, the HIH and American Heart Assn. lowered their official notion of "normal" from 120/80 to 115/75, a move that was NOT followed by Europe. (Although, to be honest, I haven't kept up, so it's possible European medical communities have now followed suit).
But I sure agree with you (and your doc) about the influence of the stinkin' drug industry. I don't mean to suggest that they don't do a lot of tremendous good, because I'm sure they do. But they are also malicious on many levels. (E.g., they love to assert that drug prices need to be high to finance the $15 billion in research they do each year, neglecting to mention the $43 billion or so they spend on advertising. That kind of thing). I believe that they really do have a deep vested interest in driving "acceptable" BP levels down in order to bring more people into the realm of "requiring" medication.
As for the original posting here: drugs DO work for a lot of people, and if they can get such benefit without debilitating side effects, more power to them. In my case, every rotten drug they've tried on me had perverse impacts. Attenolol, Accupril, Clonodine, Toprol, and a standard diuretic (hydrochlorothiazide) all did damage. Both Clonodiine and Toprol actually caused dangerous spikes in my BP. Toprol drove my (formerly excellent) lipid measurements skyhigh ... all in about 8 weeks or so (e.g., total cholesterol from 125 to 199). Clonodine caused me endless suffering, ranging from complete destruction of my ability to sleep to chronic sinus congestion. Accupril caused awful joint aches (besides costing $35 a month), and a weird kind of chronic headache that was truly terrifying. HCTZ gave me diabetes. Once off each of these, most of the conditions went away (e.g., lipids back to normal, diabetes in full remission, etc.), but I'm quite convinced that the Clonodine caused some permanent eye damage.
The only drug I can seemingly tolerate is Lisinopril, which does not adequately control my BP (and which may be causing me other side effects I've not mentioned here).
I posted below asking if anyone has had experience with either the Resperate or Zona Plus (previously: CardioGrip) devices. No one has replied, which is unfortunate. Well, I'm thinking I'm going to pop the $300 and try one of them anyhow, probably the Zona Plus which was recently featured in the Harvard Heart Medical Newsletter. High front-end cost, but if it works and gets me off the Lisinopril it would truly be worth its weight in gold to me. Guess I'll bookmark this forum, and if I get satisfactory results I'll report back on it. (But let me repeat my inquiry: if any of you know anything about either of these devices personally, please post!)
But I sure agree with you (and your doc) about the influence of the stinkin' drug industry. I don't mean to suggest that they don't do a lot of tremendous good, because I'm sure they do. But they are also malicious on many levels. (E.g., they love to assert that drug prices need to be high to finance the $15 billion in research they do each year, neglecting to mention the $43 billion or so they spend on advertising. That kind of thing). I believe that they really do have a deep vested interest in driving "acceptable" BP levels down in order to bring more people into the realm of "requiring" medication.
As for the original posting here: drugs DO work for a lot of people, and if they can get such benefit without debilitating side effects, more power to them. In my case, every rotten drug they've tried on me had perverse impacts. Attenolol, Accupril, Clonodine, Toprol, and a standard diuretic (hydrochlorothiazide) all did damage. Both Clonodiine and Toprol actually caused dangerous spikes in my BP. Toprol drove my (formerly excellent) lipid measurements skyhigh ... all in about 8 weeks or so (e.g., total cholesterol from 125 to 199). Clonodine caused me endless suffering, ranging from complete destruction of my ability to sleep to chronic sinus congestion. Accupril caused awful joint aches (besides costing $35 a month), and a weird kind of chronic headache that was truly terrifying. HCTZ gave me diabetes. Once off each of these, most of the conditions went away (e.g., lipids back to normal, diabetes in full remission, etc.), but I'm quite convinced that the Clonodine caused some permanent eye damage.
The only drug I can seemingly tolerate is Lisinopril, which does not adequately control my BP (and which may be causing me other side effects I've not mentioned here).
I posted below asking if anyone has had experience with either the Resperate or Zona Plus (previously: CardioGrip) devices. No one has replied, which is unfortunate. Well, I'm thinking I'm going to pop the $300 and try one of them anyhow, probably the Zona Plus which was recently featured in the Harvard Heart Medical Newsletter. High front-end cost, but if it works and gets me off the Lisinopril it would truly be worth its weight in gold to me. Guess I'll bookmark this forum, and if I get satisfactory results I'll report back on it. (But let me repeat my inquiry: if any of you know anything about either of these devices personally, please post!)
Oops ... that was, of course, NIH -- National Institutes of Health -- not HIH. And actually, come to think of it, I'm not sure WHICH agency or medical society officially adopted the 115/75 "standard," but it was important enough at the time that it made the front page of the NY Times. My apologies if I named the wrong institution.
Like some other medical concepts, hypertension is not a fixed static idea. At one time it was thought by the medical community that the normal BP was 100 + persons age. Over the years BP has been adjusted and it now is 110/70. Now they have a pre-hypertension category.
My PCP (who is also in my familytree) has the suspicion, along with other doctors, that some of this is driven by drug companies. By lowering BP numbers more people are brought under treatment using drugs (something like 25,000,000 americans). He therefore uses no fixed numbers for BP. He claims that a proper evaluation has to be based on an exam that factors in the patient's age, social context, symptoms, health issues, work environment, etc. In my particular case he considers 140/80 as normal. I take 2 verapamil (180mg each) per day.
My PCP (who is also in my familytree) has the suspicion, along with other doctors, that some of this is driven by drug companies. By lowering BP numbers more people are brought under treatment using drugs (something like 25,000,000 americans). He therefore uses no fixed numbers for BP. He claims that a proper evaluation has to be based on an exam that factors in the patient's age, social context, symptoms, health issues, work environment, etc. In my particular case he considers 140/80 as normal. I take 2 verapamil (180mg each) per day.
Those are all success stories via meds. Anyone manage to lower it some other way? Mine is temporary I'm sure due to life stresses. I don't want to start meds for it.
Mild hypertension since 25, 135-150/85-95 range, now 42 , controlled with atenolol 50mg twice daily, cozaar 25mg twice daily, HCTZ 12.5mg daily.
Readings now average 100-110/60-70. It's all trial and error though with Meds, what works for one might not work another. Good luck.
Readings now average 100-110/60-70. It's all trial and error though with Meds, what works for one might not work another. Good luck.
Hi,
It all depends on how you judge success. Controlled with medications, or without. Medications, exercise (weight loss), & diet help. Finding primary issues for HTN is important, other times it can be difficult to pin down.
Beta & Calcium Channel Blockers help, along with ACEs & ARBs, long acting nitro, and thiozidines. A number of combos may be needed for difficult cases.
My docs aim to keep mine in the low 110/50s,60s. In the 140/80s range I have atypical angina and migraine quality headaches.
It all depends on how you judge success. Controlled with medications, or without. Medications, exercise (weight loss), & diet help. Finding primary issues for HTN is important, other times it can be difficult to pin down.
Beta & Calcium Channel Blockers help, along with ACEs & ARBs, long acting nitro, and thiozidines. A number of combos may be needed for difficult cases.
My docs aim to keep mine in the low 110/50s,60s. In the 140/80s range I have atypical angina and migraine quality headaches.
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