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I know that omega 3 is really supposed to be good for the heart, but I get palps after I take them for 3 days, especially krill oil. I've read in this forum that others have also had adverse reactions to taking this supplement.  So I wanted to put this poll out to see how omega 3 affects you. The first time I suspected krill oil, which is supposed to be the best omega 3, I used the process of elimination. Still not believing it I did it a second and third time. Now I don't dare take it even after my ablation for SVT because I don't want the other arrythmias. I also figure that we in this forum who are trying to figure out the triggers for arrythmias can make each other aware when we come across something that causes an arrythmia, something we'd never thought about before. I found an article from USA Today that talks about fish oil and arrythmias. It is:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2005-06-14-fish-oil_x.htm

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On Omega-3 supplements, I notice a significant increase in PVCs as well as slight increase in general twitchiness or anxiety.  Yeah, it's a sample size of one and I'm the only observer, but that's the way it seems to me.  However, some scientists have observed problems in giving patients these supplements:

http://www.examiner.com/nutrition-in-sacramento/university-of-san-francisco-studies-how-fish-oil-worsens-certain-heart-conditions

Similarly, In patients with bipolar disorder, fish oil supplements have generally been shown to be helpful in quieting their symptoms--except for a very, very small group in whom the stuff actually triggers mania.

It's another case of One Size Does Not Fit All--and another bit of evidence that tailoring treatment to the individual is a good idea.

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Thanks for your post and the article. I love finding articles that show some kind of support for my fish oil theory. I agree that one size certainly doesn't fit all. I've read posts where some people swear by fish oil for their hearts and some, though less, who have the very opposite effect. For those suffering from the dreaded arrythmias that interfere so much with life, I just thought this would give them something to consider while trying to figure out triggers.
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Happens to me too~!!! For  a while there I couldnt figure it out.. then.. i stopped taking the pills.. got the "golden standard" brand.. and it happened again.. then.. i just said whack it!! I will eat salmon.. fresh caught.. not farm raised... and about 3 weeks later.. wham..!! same thing.. flax oil does it too.. as well as coconut oil. wont be doing that again.
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Did you get a chance to read the articles. It targets people with defribillators who shouldn't take. If I read it right, it hints that people with any arrythmia should be careful with fish oil. Interesting!
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I experimented with fish oil for about 9 months and everytime I got back on the fish oil my heart started skipping. NO FISHOIL and lots of MAGNESIUM has been the answer for me.
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I looked on the site you recommended for over a half hour and could not find the article about fish oil and skips
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So im  not crazy after all.. I have told doctors and other people that fish and omega 3 bother my arrthymia. Noone believed me but I know what happens and it isnt pretty. I stay away from it. I did find an article once that said its good for the heart but people with arrythmias it can make them go into life threating ones.
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Yes.. i read the articles... and I was like..YES!! FINALLY!! Validation!!!!!!!!!!! lol  i not crazy!! lol
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At the end of the article it says, ""Drugs that affect rhythms are double-edged swords," he says. "The people they're most likely to hurt are the ones with the sickest hearts, with recurrent arrhythmias, the ones we had in our study."

In this article the study group was made up of people with defribillators and they found in 65% it caused more harm than good. When I read this article, all I could think of was if it affects that group of people with arrythmias, is it possible that it affects others in the same way?  I think further studies need to be made on other groups like those who have SVT or PVC's or any of the other arrythmia's that are out there.  
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This is such a relief to find others out there who have this problem. When I took it, I tried to blame everything before finally zeroing in on this. If people are having any kind of arrythmia and are taking this thinking it's good for them, they might possibly rethink the fish oil at least consider it when trying to find the triggers. MegaRed krill oil is the worst for me. I've never had arrythmias as bad as when I was on this.
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Interesting theory.  Coincidently, around 12 years ago when my arrythmia took a turn for the worse, I was on a health kick, had decided to clean up my health and diet, and started taking fish oil with Omega 3-6-9 and borage oil because I had heard it was heart healthy and would lower my cholesterol.  Never made the connection between the supplements and the worsening arrythmia.  I was on several other self-prescribed vitamin and mineral supplements as well.

Omega 3/fish oil are not the only supplements that cause problems with arrythmia.  I have heard that St. John's Wort can also cause heart problems in those with existing arrythmias.  

Nearly 5 years ago, when I was diagnosed with early-stage BC, my oncologist told me to stop taking all supplements immediately as they were doing more harm than good.  The shocker was learning that cancer feeds on high-antioxidant supplements, which is something I never knew.  The cranberry antioxidant capsules went into the trash immediately.  I know this is not related to heart issues, but wanted to mention this in case anyone else is taking high doses of antioxidants - best to get off them ASAP, especially if you have a history of cancer in your family.

Thank goodness I stopped taking the fish oil when I did - I shudder to think how much worse my SVT could have been had I continued taking it.
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I stopped the fish oil supplements as well.  I did a little experiment and noticed far more skips when I took it.  

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I take only 1 capsule a day, a supplement, not the recommended three capsules a day.  

I had concluded some time back, maybe a year or so, that Fish Oil lowered my resting HR.  I suffer from Permanent AFib and take BB and CCB to control my HR (lower it).  As I found no other benefit I decided to stop.  Then, on Sunday Fox News, the old timer Cardiologist that is on in the morning show gave Fish Oil the strongest of recommendations... don't recall any discussion of defibrillators.  That's when I started taking just a supplement level, one capsule a day.  

I am not sure it does any good or harm, but I am taking the TV doctor's advice and my cardiologist knows what I take and is mostly silent - it is up to me.

We try to eat fish a couple of times a week too.  
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I'm glad it's working for you. My husband swears by it for overall feeling good.

In all of my research, there is tons of evidence that it is good for the heart so that is why I was so confused as to why it seemed to effect me so negatively, even at one a day. There are  great articles out there about how good it is for afib patiends. But, there is also growing evidence from studies that for people who have arrythmias, especially those with ICD's, it makes the arrythmias worse. In some studies, they compared it to taking anitarrythmic meds. Some people can't take certain antiarrythmia meds because it makes the arrythmias worse. They're finding it is the same for fish oil.

I actually took generic fish oil for a few years, and I can't say one way or the other that it affected my heart. Then I started taking krill fish oil and my arrythmias became much worse. I didn't know it was that at the time, so I stopped taking everything and used the process of elimination to figure out that it was the fish oil.

I just think there needs to be a lot more research on this.
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I've heard the same thing about antioxidants and cancer. A lady we know who had cancer was told the same thing by her oncologist. The funny thing was, she and her husband were the caretakers for a ranch that belongs to a multimillionaire who owns a vitamin company; Melaleluca. Those are the vitamins she took, of course. Sadly, she passed a way a few months ago.

Fish oil looks pretty suspicious to many people with arrythmias. If this is really the case, as it appears, hopefully more studies can be done so that group of people can be warned that it can be a side effect. I know it does a lot of good for most people, but there is a small population of us who suffer because of it.
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I doubt that if we had 20,000 people state that fish oil makes skips worse that the medical profession would move on it. Anyone that has read any of my threads know how i feel about doctors, By the way I have not been that way all my life buy after years and years of no help from their profession I've figured out most of my help on my own, and that is not how it should be
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what happened to the poll, I thought this was one of the best things that has been done on this site, I just hope that none of the fish oil companies are advertising on this site or it'll get nixed
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I hear you about the doctors. They do wonderful things and I'm glad we have them actually appreciate what they do. But, for things that are out of the ordinary I've found they struggle with coming up with the correct diagnosis. My husband says the are practicing physicians because they really are practicing...on us.

From your view is the poll gone? I can see it from mine. I was excited for the response it was getting.
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I see it, it's overwhelming....is there anyway I can erase a post once it's been posted?
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Lol! I wish a post could be removed, or things could be edited. Oh well! Lol!
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I think now days ...... It's also very humbling when a patient educates the doctor .  Sometimes you get a doctor that is nice about and willing to check it out.....and sometimes you get one that thinks he or she is God....and how dare we patients attempt to talk about ourselves and reactions . Ugh. We aren't robots , neither are doctors... But some need to take a step back and realize we aren't stupid .
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Isn't that the truth!  And, they don't appreciate it one bit. They especially hate it when we say we've done a lot a research on the internet trying to educate ourselves.  I was just thinking about that last night and trying to add up allllllll of the hours I've spent on the internet trying to find absolutely reliable sources to help answer questions I have about things.  Thankfully, there are some who are open minded and listen and are so willing to help but they are few and far between.   Seeing a doctor should be a problems solving conference between patient and doctor.
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My cardiologist gave me a prescription for fish oil. Made my AFib much worse.
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Since we are talking about triggers, vitamin E is another so called good for you heart that causes me to more skips
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B vitamins.. as well as Vitamin E do that to me as well. WHY? anyone know???
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I started taking 2000mg of Neptune krill oil a little over a month ago. Two weeks ago on Friday I went to the ER after waking up in atrial fibrillation and they had to shock my heart to get it to go back in rhythm. My echo cardiogram and my blood work all showed normal heart function with normal electrolytes, everything seemed fine. The doctors told me they didn't know what caused it. Every since then, I've had the uneasy feeling, especially after eating, that my body just seemed to be fighting me. I had nervous muscle twitched and my stomach would get extremely upset with nausea and diarrhea within 30 minutes after I ate. I had a mixed drink last Friday night and within minutes had a hot flushing feeling come over me and broke out in big red blotches all over my neck shoulders and arms. Then last night, I wrestled with sleeplessness and tension and anxiety all night, wrestled with my CPAP machine, feeling like my pressure was too high, then had a dream I was dying in a plane crash.  So I went back to the ER this morning after having heart palpitations this morning and a general feeling of anxiety and heaviness in my chest. AGAIN, my blood test all come back normal and the EKG showed normal heart rate. SO tonight, I'm searching for anything to help me figure out what's caused me to start having these heart palpitations and I come across this forum. I will stop taking the krill oil and see if this improves. I hope that's what is causing my problems, because I'm REALLY tired of feeling this crappy!
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When I tell doctors that I think fish oil is causing palps, they don't  acknowledge it at all. It works for a lot of people including my husband who uses it faithfully. You just have to listen to your body on some of these things. That said, if you stop taking the fish oil and the palps continue, just continue using the process of elimanation to figure it out. I stopped all my supplements and then started again one at a time until I found the culprits. I tried this method several times with the same results. My heart also reacts to CoQ10. I flax seeds oil with sucess but others here say that bothers them. Good luck.
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I am so glad I found this. I've searched everywhere to confirm my suspicions and now you've confirmed them. I don't have arythmia but get rapid heart beats and breathlessness exactly 3 days I take fish oil too. A comment one person made here made me wonder - could it be that those of us who have this reaction have a DEFICIENCY in another nutrient(s) ? Possibly magnesium ? And that is why we react to it this way ? as a child I took cod liver oil with no issues, so I always wonder why this reaction at this age. I think the deficiency in another nutrient may explain this reaction for those of us without arythmia getting it. Thoughts ?
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My doc has said that there is no proven evidence that actual supplements help with the heart, that it is actually eating the fish etc that provide the benefit. That being said I still take fish oil and do not notice any side effects.
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Krill oil 500 mgs. Causes me extreme fatigue and aft. Taking krill oil today I felt a heart attack coming on so I took some aspirin.  All done with all oils except for olive oil. I took Milk of Magnesia aft. Also in case I have low mag.  Hope I live to see another day.
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I hope you are ok. I wanted to tell you that I took 2 Omega XL capsules last night and 24 hrs later I'm still having heart palpatations. I'm hoping it goes away soon.
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I hope you are ok. I wanted to tell you that I took 2 Omega XL capsules last night and 24 hrs later I'm still having heart palpatations. I'm hoping it goes away soon.
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I don't know how Omega 3 affects me but I stopped taking it because I heard that it can trigger arrhythmias and PVCs (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proarrhythmic_agent). I don't know if it's actually true. I no longer take Omega 3 and I still get PVCs.
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I remember hearing fish oil was good for irregular heart beats.  Then I heard it can cause irregular heart beats, so I don't take it.  I have bought the krill oil before but after hearing that I didn't take them.  I'm not a big fish eater, but I do eat it once in a while, probably is better to get the omega 3 that way and not to over do it.
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I have taken it my whole adult life so I have been on it when I have had pacs/pvcs and not having them. Right now I still taking them and I am having intermission period with the ecoptics (well far less of them).

I believe from what I read is that fish oil (usually from supplements) can help with your vagal tone and increase your HRV. Which to most is a good thing. But downside is this can cause things such as lone afib because of the increased vagal tone. That's why you hear that alot of athletes later in life do develop afib.
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I have a low triglyceride level (40). I'm theorizing there's a connection to low tri. levels and fish oil induced heart palps. Do you know your triglyceride level? Triglyceride is the fat in the blood. The lower the tri level, the thinner your blood is. Fish oil thins blood. This, obviously, is not good for people who already have thin blood (ie low tirglyceride level). Please let me know your level if possible.
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Me too!!!!
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I get my Omega 3 from organic milled flax seeds. I never have PVC problems from that source, but fish oil supplements have been a culprit.
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I had RF ablation that cured my SVT 16 years ago.  I was distressed to experience a number of skipped beats after just three days on an algae derived DHA-EPA.  I stopped taking the supplement, and the skipped beats went away.  Needless to say, I won't be taking any more!
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