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363281 tn?1643235611

So afraid right now.

Hello~I do not have as many PVC's as some, but, the ones I do have scare me so badly that they are ruining my quality of life. I have posted here before, and at times, they do not bother me and others, like now, they are driving me to tears.

I am supposed to exercise when I am able, weather permitting, etc. Well, I am afraid to, I will try to walk through the mall and if I experience a small "flutter" I get so scared, I can hardly continue, it is so difficult to try to act calm like all is well while inside you are about ready to scream and loose all control. I look at other folks and think to myself, "gee, it must be nice to feel normal and to not be worried about PVC's every second of being awake". It is horrible.

I seem to notice them more at night, especially when I go to bed. I will get these missed beats, for instance, I will have several "normal" beats, then, a little pause, then my heart continues on its merry way again. I hate those. I am getting to the point that I do not want to go to bed even. Laying on my left side really causes them to act up.

I had some blood work done last week, including the good Ole lipid panel. Well, those results had me in tears. I could not believe how bad they were, especially compared with the results that I had when they did a panel just this past August. My cholesterol went from 176 to 216, my triglycerides went from 72 to 152, and my LDL went from 120 to 139!!! The only good reading was the HDL, it went up to 47 from 42. I have no idea why this happened. I try to watch my diet, and do the best I can in all ways. The doc said she was not a bit worried about the numbers and they were probably elevated due to stress, not drinking enough water, or even IBS. I don't know, I am still worried, and have been crying ever since. I know I plan to increase my exercise, even if I get scared. So, now, I am even extra paranoid with the PVC's. I am a mess.

Well, I guess I should stop for now and try to go to bed, I am putting it off, I am already having that pre-PVC tummy ache and I am afraid.

Have a nice day and hope you all are doing well.

Susie

I forgot to mention that I have had an echo, it was done in October, and it was fine, also, had a "carotid scan" around the same time, it was good also, it showed no plaque or inflammation.

I am 51 years old, I have never smoked, drank any beverage that has caffeine in it, never drank alcohol or done drugs, I take good food-grade vitamins and minerals, plus fish oil. I really try to take care of my self. I am just at my wits end.

I am supposed to start school in March to be a Medical Assistant, but, if I keep reacting to these blankity blank flutters like I have been, I will not be able to, and I so do want to take the program.

Well, again, I think that is all.

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267401 tn?1251852496
That's good news - now be sure to drink some coffee and eat some chocolate just before you get it put on, so your heart puts on a good show.  :)

I'm sure you'll be fine.  Just make a deal with yourself that when you hear the results and are told they are nothing to worry about, that you believe them.  In fact, put yourself in that mindset now, and think of all of the questions you'd want to ask if they told you that.  Ask how many PAC/PVC's they caught.  Ask if they found anything other than that.  Ask if a cardiologist reviewed the recording.  Ask if there's a threshold over which they would recommend a medication of some kind.  Ask if you are near that threshold.  Ask if there's an "as needed" medication you could have for the bad days (sometimes knowing a security blanket is there might be enough, and you may never have to use it).  Think of every question and write them down, so your mind doesn't go blank like mine does when you're getting test results.  I print mine off in 14-point font so they are easy to read, too.  Otherwise, I just tend to skip over them.

And then, after you've had the 37 super-sticky patches removed from your chest at the end of the Holter test (actually, I think it's only 6), a few days have gone by and you get a call from your doctor and you have a chance to ask all of those questions and you get the answers you were hoping for, sit back and relax.
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177337 tn?1310059899
That is great.  I will be anxious to hear your results.  I am sure you will be fine!  
Frenchie
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363281 tn?1643235611
Hello~Well, I have good news. I talked to my doctor today and she has me signed up to wear a holter monitor on Tuesday the 17, I am looking forward to it and I hope it resolves some things. I will let you know how it goes.

Susie
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212161 tn?1599427282
awe so sorry sassy hang in there fight for it i do and get it everytime, they will scare you i had a few last night only because i had to come off my pills so i could do the stress/nuclear terst . and IT WAS GOOD yes am so happy no blockages showed up but i wonder what the precentage is , like i heard they had to be 70 percent before they would show , so that not good i will research that lol, ok try and relax and dont get mad it make worse.
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363281 tn?1643235611
Well, I finally heard from my doctor. She never did receive my e-mail or message. She has also been ill. So, we set up an appointment to talk abuot the Holter monitor etc for this coming Wednesday. I told I wanted one very badly, but, she says she will have to do a heart physical on me before she can send me to the cardiologist to have a Holter. It seems they will not just put one on for any reason, so......I am not too happy about this. I had a few last night, and they scared me again, I just HAVE to know what is going on.

I'll keep you posted.
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212161 tn?1599427282
yas tris are great mind are 563 thats bad on tricor try get down right now .
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363281 tn?1643235611
You all are so kind and sweet, I really appreciate your answers Barbara and Nervous Lady. I should try to call again, but, she sort of makes me feel like I am bothering her and at times, like a two cent piece, I don't like that feeling.

Nervous Lady, your readings are not too bad, especially the triglycerides, that is great. I used to be 76, now, it has jumped to 152 and I have no reason why, yes, I fasted over 16 hours, I was so shocked with my numbers, I was in tears. Your HDL is outstanding, that will counter-react your higher cholesterol number and the low triglycerides are great too, the only one to work on is the total cholesterol, but, with the other numbers being so great, I would not be worried at all.

Thanks again for all your comments, it is comforting to know I am not alone. This forum and all the people are a blessing to me.

Love and prayers.
Susie
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212161 tn?1599427282
hey sassy hang in there i know how that is , i just keep calling until they call me back i dont wait when i want something so they know how i am. wish i could make you feel better other than to say i have had over 3000 a day for 10 weeks in a row and am still here . they are very scarey and now that am having the stress/nuclear test they wont me to come off of them for a whole day no pills its scarey to me but i have to so who knows mine will probley start back up and i be where you are . i hope your dr calls you soon in the mean time i will pray for you .Barbara
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Hi sassielassie,

I get flutters that scare the bejeez out of me - my cholesterol came back high this past time too - that's the first time it's happened and I really watch what I eat.  I'm very nervous about my numbers too, though my doctor did not even mention them.  They just sent the results to me in the mail.  My numbers are close to yours, though slightly higher - LDL 144, total cholesterol 225, HDL 64 Triglycerides 85.  Did they have you fast for 12 hours prior to the test?  They forgot to tell me this so I'm wondering if this may have affected my numbers -  I only fasted for about 8 hours.  Regardless, I'm upset about my results as well and am now all about Cheerios and eating heart healthy foods.  It's really bothering me that they came up high and I think about it all the time!

I have a lot of anxiety - sometimes over something specific but sometimes just kind of generalized stuff - I'm not really sure why I feel anxious sometimes.  It *****, and I'm sure it definitely ramps up my arrhythmia.  And then sometimes, like about an hour ago, I'm minding my own business, not feeling particularly anxious, and I get hit with a run of v-tach.  Uuuugh.  You can bet I'm anxious now!  These are really frustrating.

I was recently told that my arrhythmias are 'benign' and not to worry, but it wasn't the immediate relief I had hoped for. Of course I was relieved to get the news but I'm finding myself still uncomfortable with these arrhythmia when they happen.  I think it takes time to teach yourself that these are nothing worrisome, that it's not an overnight thing but a process.  Probably because they don't feel like 'nothing'...they are uncomfortable to endure.  Also probably because I have trained myself to be fearful of them for a long time and now I have to change that automatic fear response that happens when I get these skips and blips and flutters.

I hope that made some sort of sense.  I know that these can really be scary and feel like they take over your life.  I think you will get better - it won't always be like this, but it takes time.  Be patient with yourself - you aren't alone, I'm in the same boat with you!
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363281 tn?1643235611
UGH, still no answer from my doc regarding the monitor, pretty soon, I am going to change docs and see what they think. I mean, I am a good patient of hers and I do NOT like being ignored and treated like this is all in my head. Mercy.
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267401 tn?1251852496
I had a reply all typed up, but somehow it vanished.

Anyway, I read some old posts of yours and your profile and wanted to call your attention to your propensity for PVC's when you're involved in looking at schooling/change of career.  I see it's happened at least twice, according to the info you've posted.  It's a huge step and one that could cause loads of excitement and anxiety.

Something to consider as you figure out how to manage your problem.
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363281 tn?1643235611
I forgot to mention, that the school I plan on attending is for Medical Assistant, I have always wanted to help others, and now, I feel is a good time to start. It starts in March, is 11 months long and includes an externship. So, I bet all this IS some of the cause of my heart doing somersaults.
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363281 tn?1643235611
Nice to see you again.

Thanks for your comment, yes, it helped alot. You know, sometimes a person will say something, and it will be just the thing that helps a person, and your post was it, thanks lots.

Everyone on this forum and who have been answering me, are so great, I am sure blest to have you all in my "fluttery" life.

Hugs to all
Susie~Q
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hey there i havent posted here in a while because i have quit worrying..... i dont know why but i dont care anymore, i count the pvcs as a heart beat and nothing more and this is what you have to think.....when you get a pvc just laugh or smile, and trust me it helps.....they are nothing, plus you have gotten all those tests done which i havent but i just dont care.....live life to the fullest and not let these things get in the way....because i'll tell ya what the final day of my life i dont wanna look back and say "man the pvcs controlled me, and now i cant take that back...."    just a thought, hope it helps
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363281 tn?1643235611
You know, you are right, I would imagine that the excitement of starting a new career adventure, wondering how the program will be, how will I do, etc, had a huge bearing on these PVC's, I know adrenalin and excitement can cause them to act up, they are opportunists. This time, however, I am determined to not give in to them, easier said than done for me, but, I am sure working on it.

Looking at the stars is relaxing, and I enjoy walking or sitting on the water, that, for me, is a big relaxant.
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267401 tn?1251852496
I read something either in your profile or in previous posts that I found interesting and thought it might help to shed some light on what's been going on with you.  

In a previous post you mentioned something about going to visit a school you were thinking of attending (you traveled with your fiance, if I recall).  You got so many PVC's you decided to cancel the trip.

And now, you're pretty close to beginning schooling and the PVC's are in full gallop once again.

I can't help but wonder if the excitement and nervousness that is accompanying this big change is what's causing this for you.  It's only two points of data, but they seem relevant.  And then once the PVC's get rolling, your own nervousness about them is enough to perpetuate them.

Something to think about, anyway.  Maybe there's a way you can change how you approach this change so that it does not seem like such a big thing.  For me, I like looking at the stars.  There are nights when I can see Mars or Jupiter, Saturn or Venus, the different constellations, and it all makes me feel very small.  So small as for it not to matter much whether I make a lot of money or a little, if I'm a great dad or an average one, if I achieve my life's goals or not.  Sometimes that can help take the edge off of whatever it is I'm stressing about at the time.
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363281 tn?1643235611
I have called my doctor and even sent an urgent e-mail, I have not heard a thing from her, this really upsets me, I mean, that e-mail was important, and I literally begged her. She has not answered before regarding things, and I am tired of it.

I must be a magnet to rude docs, I e-mailed another doc I see, and she has not answered either, and this one, we usually do what I call "e-appointments" she is another one that answers when she is good and ready.

Isn't there any doctor out there that cares? :(
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Hi Susie.  I am sorry you are going through this rough period right now.  They've kicked up for the time being; but, they will settle down and you will feel better.  You have gotten alot of good advise.  Know that you are not alone. We are here for you as a listening ear and to help ease you through it.  You are going to make it through.  We are all going to make it through. Keep us posted.  We care.  

I am praying for you.
Bon-Bon    
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212161 tn?1599427282
good for you , i wore the 24 hours but it didnt catch anything so now i not happy unless i have the 30 day event montor , they will mail it to my house when i ask for it the dr calls the order in and the company that reads it mails it to my house , it shows you how to hook on its only two leads so easy and i just wear for 30 days that way if in the 24 hours my heart trys to hid from it somewhere in the 30 days i get them. i hope you get it tell them until you can wear one your going be so stressed and drive them crazy what i did and now when i call they send it to me they know until i have it i be in there or calling everyday. but i do have insurance so that makes a big difference. let us know when you get it  and than try and have lots of pac/pvc while wearing but like i said if anything like me i feel better wearing it and my heart calms down lol, hope yours shows them whats going on
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267401 tn?1251852496
Frenchie - I was wondering if you'd taken anything.  Also, hadn't seen you here in a day or so; I thought that might be a good thing for you (I should probably stay away too, as reading about so many people with serious problems does NOT make me feel better, but here I am).

When I have severe runs of PVC's, it seems everything makes them worse.  Soda, chocolate, you name it.  And then once they subside, I start working those back into my diet, and then one day I get really frustrated and have a choco-soda O.D., and usually?  I look at my heart, beating normally, and it looks back at me, like "What?  What's yer problem?"  So I can totally relate to taking fistfuls of M&M's (also my drug of choice) and gulping them down to test my reaction.

@ SassieLassie - I can really feel for you.  I started getting PVC's just over a decade ago and I felt some of the very same things.  What did I do to get these?  How great I had it just a few weeks ago when I wasn't having any of this.  Wish I'd known then how good it really was.  Is this how the rest of my life is going to be?  'Cause I'm pretty sure I'm not going to enjoy it if it is.

But when you're at the mall, looking around, remember that about half of all the adults you see also have PVC's.  Some feel them, but some don't.  Personally, I don't know how you couldn't feel them.

But if it's simple PVC's and PAC's, you'll find a way of getting over and through them.  I think that the reassurance found on this site is helpful, even though you're never really sure if what you're feeling is the very same thing someone esle is feeling, so you still worry a little.  So you go on, day by day, realizing at the end of each day that you in fact survived; you didn't feel light-headed, you didn't pass out, and you'll do the best you can the next day.  Pretty soon there will be enough miles of PVC road behind you that you'll realize these things probably aren't going to kill you.  

And exercising can be such a leap of faith - you're worried your heart is going to stop working, and one of the recommended self-treatments is to get exercise.  That is, do something to stress that muscle that you're afraid is going to stop working suddenly.  But it works.  Just ramp up the exercise slowly.  Follow the recommendations that nobody usually follows about warm-up and cool-down, and keep at it.  Your worry about these is most certainly making them worse, and a good vigorous exercise can work some of that nervous energy right out of you, making you unable to worry as much.  At least for a little while.  But by the time you worry again, go exercise again.

During times of loads of stress and lots of PVC's, I'll exercise twice a day - sometimes nothing more than walking on the treadmill at a really slow rate - but because your brain has to be at least minimally engaged with what you're doing (otherwise you fall off the treadmill), and because you're moving the whole time, I've found even that helps a lot.  I'll watch a video or something, too.  For some reason I feel more soothed when I'm watching my kids videos - Shrek, A Bug's Life - something that's light and cute.

Something to consider - starting school for a new occupation at this stage in your life might be a really stressful thing, and might be the source of the problem.  Not saying you shouldn't do it, just look at that as a possible cause, analyze your fears if it IS a cause, then work through those fears until you feel satisfied about how the schooling and job will work out in the future.  And it might even be excitement over getting this schooling - when stories mention people's hearts skipping a beat when they see their loved ones, what do you think they're talking about?

Hang in there, keep working through it and you're probably going to be just fine.  
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363281 tn?1643235611
I just called my doctor but, she was with a patient, so, I told the receptionist to tell her I sent an e-mail. I just begged her for a 24 hour monitor, I told her I was in tears and could not take it much longer and even though she did not think it was necessary, I did, and I had to wear one. We shall see what happens now. I will keep you all posted.
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yes, get that monitor on.  It's likely the results are benign and you will have the reassurance that all is well and the palapitations are just a nusance.  That knowledge will make a huge difference for you.  
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363281 tn?1643235611
Thanks for your comments. Back in 2004, I wore a 24 hour monitor and it was super, the best the doc had seen, on the times I pushed the button, he said he did not even notice any irregular beats, and the entire strip only had 2 PAC's. I would love to have one again, but, my doctor will not prescribe one for me, I had to literally beg for the echo I had done in October. She says I am fine, that all tests are good, and since I have no insurance what-so-ever, she just does not want to refer me to  wear one.

I might try to beg one more time next time I see her, which will be this coming Wednesday. I live in a very small town, and I have to go out of town for any procedure, and the closest town to me only has Internist, they are the ones that read my 24 hour monitor strip.

Thanks again for your help, I sure wish someone could come up with an "easy fix" for these. I do pray alot, I guess I just need more faith.

Have a lovely day and God bless.
Hugs
Susie

LOL, I can not take Xanax or ANY kind of tranquilizer, they have an opposite effect and then I am REALLY in trouble, oh my.
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177337 tn?1310059899
I feel your pain and anxiety.  I agree with heartfluttersflyawayplz.  You should just go get a moniter.  Just a 24 hour moniter would put your mind to rest.  I was in the same boat as you just a few days ago.  For 8 weeks my heart was skipping and fluttering and pausing.  I thought I was having thousands of these things.  I was at my wits end and also afraid to go to sleep because as soon as I laid down they would feel even worse.  I put a moniter on this week and he called me that same day I took it back because I was such a basket case.  He told me that it might feel like I was having thousands but I only had 278.  Now that is still a lot for me because I was avering 6-50/day just a few years ago.  BUT...by that evening, they had reduced dramitically.  For me that just confirms that mine are mostly anxiety driven.  Sounds like yours are too.  To test this, last night I had three handfuls of m&m's and one half of a chocolate bar and went to bed.  NOTHING  absolutely NOTHING.
The anxiety of me looking for triggers was the culprit for me.  Now I am still feeling a few but as my doctor said, I better get a grip or I'm going to blow.  So, I'm trying to get a grip.  The only way I was able to reduce my anxiety was to call my doctor and get that monitor on.  You should too.  I know exactly how you feel when you describe walking through the mall.  Or doing anything for that matter.  Life definately has never been the same for me since these nasty things reared their head.
They will get better.  
Take care
Frenchie
ps  No, I haven't taken any Xanax yet.  lol  
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