bloating

Is bloating a common feeling after eating, even a small meal?  I'm going thru so many unknown feelings right now,I'm only 2 wks into tx.  I think i had my first experience of either riba rage or brain fog; I dont know which or it was both.  I woke feeling depressed and mad.  Yelled at my husb. knowing darn well all was done that I asked.  I felt like a feather; very light.  Once I got off to work those feelings started to subside.  By the time I got to work I realized I was being unreasonable and called my husb. to apoligize.  I also asked him next time I start getting mad and he doesnt see a reason to let me know the meds are working on my head again.  wow!! It was a trip.
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[meki]

Your first experience with Riba Rage is often a WILD experience.

I didn't believe anyone that you could get that angry - that quickly.

Mine settled down after week 10... I didn't have the energy to be mad... and everything went "internally".

But yeah - this stuff messes with your mind --- VERY MUCH SO.

Hope you feel much better.

HUGS!

Meki

[meki]

Bloating --- LOL - that was the main question...

I never feel full or bloated.

So I don't know about that part... But I would imagine that because I got serious "flatulence" LOL --- look out behind kind --- that you might be having some gas issues.

Meki

[sfwandwow]

bloating unsure but if i eat , i can eat like 3-4 bites and iam so full... so i eat thru-out day but feelso full all day at times from 3-4 bites.. I wish u well

[DragonSlayer45]

I have not started treatment yet, but it scares me when I hear some peoples experiences on treatment because I actually experience those things now and I am treatment naive. For example I get really bloated sometimes (like now) and I get angry sometimes. I mean really angry like rage angry and I was always a pretty easy going person growing up. I told my wife it scares me when I get like that especially over stupid things like the DVD player won't work. I feel like what the heck is it going to be like when I start treatment!

Does anyone else experience this prior to treating? Does it get better or worse?

[evangelin]

My husband has treated twice and in a week will try again.  The first treatment was peg -intron without an anti -depressant and the second was daily Infergen shots with an anti -depressant.  The whole family faired much better the second time even though Infergen is considered to be a difficult TX.  He used the antidepressant Celexa (generic name is citalopram)  and it just made a huge difference in his ability to cope with the side effects.  We weaned him off too soon afterwards because the drugs took a long time to wear out of his system.  My husband has never been a person to need antidepressants but the meds deplete your seratonin levels badly.  The first treatment without an anti-d just about did in the whole family and was a trauma we would not want to repeat.  
Blessings,
Ev

[nygirl7]

DragonSlayer - you'd be wise to make sure you have a good anti-depressent on board before you start treatment. Unfortunately even for the meekest this stuff usually causes the "riba rage" and it's best to just make sure you can handle it.  It took me about two weeks to wean off the Paxill and it was pretty hard...but I just wanted itd one fast.   Probably I wouldnt have been able to last without it on treatment because my family would have killed me off.

Once I yelled at my daughter for BREATHING too hard.  Now can you believe that? PLEASE have good communication with the family BEFORE you start treatment and make sure they understand this is a SIDE EFFECT it has nothing to do with you or them. Fortunately, my family just laughed and said oh mom go sit in a corner and count to 10 which would make me LIVID but it was sort of a code for me to know I was just making no sense at all and was out of control.


Regarding stomach issues - unfortunately very major complaint on treatment.  Just about every issue you can imagine IBS, diahhreah, constipation - you name it it's complainned about.

But - to kill the virus and save your life..................it's worth it. :)

[cindyfs48]

i havent started treatment yet either.sometime over the sumer.i to already feel some of the sides mentioned.i have brain fog sometimes pretty bad.im very fatgue.legs and feet hurt.my toes get cold when its not cold.im very depressed.i think my depression is from feeling tired of being tired.i dont feel like a normal person.but im hoping the treatment will cure everything.im also hyorthroid.hope everything works out ok.when do you start treatment?im geno type 2b

[sandal41]

mood swings are hell.. so is having to know where every bathroom is in every store you go into.

the later, i have no solution to, but i've been taking lexapro this time around, double dose at this point, and believe me.. it's a savior.

i broke cell phones, dishes, vcr's.. talk about rage out of know where.. i even threw peeps at someone because they got me the wrong color..

talk to the doc about something to calm you. you'll be glad you did. less depression, less anger. and easier to live with yourself.

[CMcH]

I am on my first week of TX and the first thing I noticed was the feeling of being bloated, even my husband noticed it. I initially thought it was from drinking to much water and it could have been. Now I notice after every meal I feel like I ate to much and that could be too. When my husband offers me ice cream right after a meal I used to jump at it now I need to wait a while but I still have it. Are you taking anything to coat your stomach B4 you take all your pills? I'm to new at this to know what is causing what. I just know that I seem to be tired a lot.
Hand in there and keep me posted.
Love and strength
Connie

[ladybuglola]

we seem so much alike, I felt like I was reading my own comments.  I had a very very big sweet tooth, It is now completely gone.  (thats a good thing).  I did have a hard weekend.  I inject on fridays nites and on sat morning I woke up feeling like I was dizzy, headachy and nauseated.  It came and went all day sat and sun. I'm only on my 3d inj.
My doctor said since i'm only taking 800 motrin on friday and 6 hrs thereafter till sunday evening its ok so he prescribed me motrin.  Tylenol doesnt kill the headache completely when motrin does.  I do coat my stomach with 1 tbsp. peanut butter between 2 saltines every morning and that seems to do the trick.  I hope your still doing good.  Keep me posted on your tx.  
hang in there,
d

[bandman54]

try eating unsalted sauerkraut for gas... or salted if you cannot find unsalted.
This sometimes helps.  You don't need to eat a lot , just a little every couple of days.

I love it on a turkey burger with whole wheat bun!  If you had told me 2 years ago I would be eating this kind of stuff I would have said you are out of your ******* mind!

But it just takes a couple of weeks to get used to it.

Peanuts and peanut butter can give you gas as well.  Also, if you are lactose intolerant and don't know it you can have all kinds of gas problems.  Try cutting out milk and cheese for while and see if that helps.

I have started having rage even before starting tx... the chinese call the liver the seat of anger as well as the general!  They know what they are talking about.

I mean , I would be like Dr. Jekle and Chrissie Hyde,  but only if someone really pissed me off... I mean , I wouldn't go off for no reason, but I would really over react.   Its the battle in the liver, causing the anger.  The riba just adds to it.
Wow , I am really looking forward to this!

bandman

[ladybuglola]

Thanks for your comments.  I almost had a riba rage this morning, but I caught myself.  I noticed that just b4 I went off my conversation in my head is always the same, today I caught the familiar conversation in my head and said to myself, I think I'm going to go off again, so i purposely became really quiet and talked myself out of it.  saying its not his fault(husband) and just kept repeating that to myself till the feeling went away.  Later I called my husband and explained my silence because he sees it coming too but doesnt know quite how to react yet.  
Talking to yourself and family is good.  whew!! close one.
Hang in there
d

[bandman54]

try getting a nintendo wii and do the boxing.... you get the beat the **** out of people and it is also a pretty good workout.\\

bandman

[HectorSF]

I guess your dose of Motrin is pretty low since you are only taking it before and after interferon injection but so other know they need to be aware of these over the counter common meds....

From Dr. Laura Palmer - Hepatologist - Member of the practice guidelines committee of the American Association for the Study of Liver Disease(AASLD) and currently sits on the enduring educational materials committee of AASLD.


Q: I'm still confused as to which pain medications can be used: Motrin vs. Tylenol For Pain Relief Which is safest to take and in what amounts?

A: Acetaminophen (Tylenol) is a medication used to control pain (known as an analgesic) and fever (known as antipyretic). In small doses (less than 4 grams per day, or eight pills taken over a twenty-four hour period of time) acetaminophen is quite safe for the liver—unless combined with alcoholic beverages. (Note: each acetaminophen tablet or pill typically contains 500 milligrams of acetaminophen.) In fact, acetaminophen is the recommended medication for relieving minor aches, pains, and headaches in people with liver disease. However, when taken in excessive quantities or when combined with alcohol, acetaminophen may cause death due to liver failure.

The consumption of alcohol in conjunction with acetaminophen significantly increases the likelihood that a person will incur severe liver damage. Therefore, people who consume alcohol on a regular basis should probably limit acetaminophen intake to a maximum of 1 to 2 grams per day (that is, two to four pills within a twenty-four hour period). Still, the best advice for people with liver disease is to totally abstain from alcohol.

People should take special note that acetaminophen is also an active ingredient in more than 200 other medications, including Nyquil and Anacin 3. Therefore, it is essential to read the labels of all over-the-counter medications carefully. Other commonly used medications, such as omeprazole (Prilosec), phenytoin (Dilantin), and isoniazid (INH), may increase the risk of liver injury caused by acetaminophen. It is always in the liver patient’s best interest to consult with a liver specialist prior to taking any medication.

Acetylsalicylic acid (aspirin) and other NSAIDs such as Motrin are drugs that are widely used for their anti-inflammatory and analgesic effects. They also have the potential to cause drug-induced liver disease. In fact, many NSAIDs have been withdrawn from the market due to their hepatotoxicity. All NSAIDs have the potential to cause liver injury. However, some NSAIDs are more hepatotoxic than others. NSAIDs presently on the market that have been frequently associated with liver injury are aspirin (ASA), diclofenac (Voltaren), and sulindac (Clinoril). Ibuprofen (Motrin) has been reported to cause severe liver injury in people with hepatitis C.

     It is recommended that people with advanced liver disease avoid using all NSAIDs. If NSAIDs are medically required for the treatment of another medical disorder, a reduced dose should be used for a limited period of time and only by people with stable liver disease. Older women with liver disease seem to be particularly susceptible to the hepatotoxicity of NSAIDs and are advised to avoid NSAIDs altogether.  Since NSAIDs may cause salt and water retention people with fluid retention problems such as ascites or leg swelling may suffer worsening of these conditions.  People with decompensated cirrhosis are at increased risk kidney damage stemming from the use of NSAIDs. Since this may lead to hepatorenal syndrome, people with advanced liver disease are advised to totally avoid all NSAIDs.  Furthermore, people with ascites (fluid accumulation) may not respond to treatment with water pills (diuretics), while on NSAIDs, as they counteract their actions. People with liver disease who have had internal bleeding, - from an ulcer or esophageal varices, for example, may be at risk for recurrent bleeding induced by NSAIDs, and should totally avoid this class of medications. People who are also taking corticosteroids (such as prednisone), or anticoagulants (such as coumadin) may have and increased risk of complications from NSAIDs.  Finally, people with liver disease who smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol should avoid NSAIDs as they are also at increased risk for its complications.

Cheers!
Hector

[DAZED56]

I am a 57 year old female  ive been married for 32 years.Ive been digo with hep c. Don't know how bad or what kind I guess I'll find out tommorow. anyways I am having a really bad time with my temper!!! I stoped on the side of a major freeway in Phoenix and started walking. Is this riba rage??? I know nothing about this. HELP IM SCARED I HAVE NO INC.