I'm a chronic Hepatitis B patient who just got cured. I was inactive carrier for more than 10 years, then chronic active for the last 4 years. I started treatment more than 2 years ago because my HBV DNA is already on maximum count and my sgpt is highly elevated to he point of being icteric. After 10 months of entecavir and natural supplementation my HBV DNA is undetectable and after 24 months my Hbeag is non reactive, Hbsag w/ titer (CMIA by Abott) is non reactive, Sgpt/sgot is normal, Anti-Hbs and Anti-hbe is still non-reactive. I like to post this question because there are very few cases like mine and I would like to hear what happens next.
How can I improve my anti-hbs and Anti-hbs? Is there any vaccination which can stimulate production of antibodies to make it reactive? Also my eosinophils is high for the past 3 months. Is this due to my immune response to eliminate Hbsag? I try to check the web for any correlation between high eosinophils and hbsag elimination but as I said there very limited cases and I can't find any more information. Any sharing of information is a great help. God Bless everyone!
first of all not cured until hbsab is undetectable, this is a must to be sure there is no relapse or low hbvdna present (what was the senibility of the pcr?)
How can I improve my anti-hbs and Anti-hbs?
peginterferon, hbv vaccine or the combo of both.normal hbv vaccine has been used in this stage but we have a member checking israel hbv vaccine which has more antigens and is much more potent than normal hbv vaccine, check his posts about his response to it
Thank you for your response. That is really my next goal and I know hbsag may go back if I don't increase my anti-hbs. My mom and I now have a similar case, she's cured from hbsag and we check her Anti-hbs quarterly and it's just fluctuating but still non-reactive. Her value is around 2-3 iu/ml and the cut-off value is above 10 to be considered reactive. My HBV DNA is 110,000,000 iu/ml before treatment, it become <6 iu/ml on month 10 of entecavir. My sgpt(kinetic) was around 300 u/l before treatment. It was down to 90 u/l on month 4 and normal on month 8 of treatment and continues to be within the normal range upto now (my sgpt now is 21 u/l). I don't think I have any liver damage before/during and after treatment so I am very lucky to start the treatment before anything serious happen. The only time I have elevated sgpt during treatment is when I acquired a Hepa A virus which is very symptomatic (aundice, pale stools, cannot eat, dark urine) That was month 5. My sgpt rise to 1400 u/l but then it subside after 2 months.
as reported by many clinical cases a liver superinfection with benigne viruses activates immune system which is able to suppress hbvdna but your report is a first because hbv was already suppressed by entecavir and hav may be the reason of the clearance
There was an in vivo study saying that, after vaccination, Coenzyme Q10 increase antibody titer: Statistics revealed that Q10 in the dose 180 mg/day is able to increase antibody response in vivo in humans vaccinated against hepatitis B with up to 57%: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10416052
Is it really working or is a study sponsored by Q10 sellers?..who knows
If you want to try , keep in mind the study is about the old ubiquinone, now there is a new more potent form ubiquinol, I think.
My doctor also have that study on superimposed HAV and HBV and told me there are reported cases of superimposed liver infection that actually eliminates both HAV and HBV. But after 6 months from acquiring HAV and still have HBV, it shows my immune response activated by HAV has not clear the virus HBV so entacavir treatment is still continued. I also think selenium supplementation plays a good role in totally eliminating the virus. I think there are studies in China showing good effects of selenium in liver cancer cases. As for my mom, she does not have HAV. Her case is different. She started lamivudine in the 90's then become inactive, then ralapse came and she took hepsera, become inactive then relapse again and took entacavir, become inactive, then another relapse again and she no longer want to take antiviral. We go natural, she took selenium, zinc and copper supplementation for 2 months and become inactive carrier and HBV DNA was down from 13,000,000 iu/ml to 6 iu/ml. Then discontinued zinc and copper as per doctor's advice and continue with selenium supplementation for more than a year. Her Hbsag (Abott Architect) was just around 700 and it no longer move that much but hbeag remained nonreactive, sgpt around 40-50 mild fatty liver. Then she took stem cell caps and Hbsag becomes nonreactive on month 4. So my mom's case was solve using purely natural on her last relapse. But probably the antivirals she used to take also plays a major role because I tried the same natural product (except stem cell caps) but has no effect on me and I conclude that this is because of my high viral load condition which prompt me to take antiviral entecavir. These are two real life cases and I hope this can be studied and be used to solve and cure Hepatitis B. I have one more brother who is active HBV right now but still refuse to undergo medication due to financial reason. His sgpt is slightly above the range but tolerable but as soon as it goes up we will have to start treatment immediately. So i'll just stay here and read your informative post's and learn more about this disease and be part of the solution to this problem.
minerals are not the reason of hbv clearance, most of us take it from a long time and are present in heptech and d3plus and most supplements.
they can only help an immune response already present by itself
the reasons can be HAV or you are among the few 5% clearing on etv
Probably I belong to the lucky 5% clearing on etv but my mom's hbsag clearance after relapse was purely natural and we have a common element for hbsag clearance which is mineral supplementation. So I think this a good sign for medical review. Here in the Philippines there are many cases of HBV and I have a few friends in the forums who now tries this approach and I directed them to my doctor. I will report here for any updates on their treatment. The only way to prove something is to try it and look for the lab results for any improvements. Lab results will always tell the truth. This is what I did and it works for me.
Mineral supplementation is additional intake of minerals (in my case selenium) beyond the recommended dosage of regular multivitamins sold in the market. We have a doctor here the Philippines who studies about this approach and he has his full research on this approach. I combine this to the prescribed antiviral entacavir and it works for me. I become hbsag non-reactive in 2 years of medication. Hope this helps.
Theres hope for a cure from Hepb which is what we all are looking for on this site! Currently, depending on your labs, most promising direction at the moment is TNF with PegInf add on after 2-3 years. A number of members on this site have achieved clearance this way.
The horizon is full of many promising cures which might become available in the near future.
In the meantime, i would advise you to go do your labs: HBsag quantiy, HBDNA, Alt/Ast. Share results with Stef. Would give lots of helpful advise. Keep hopes alive!!!!
Unfortunately i do not have a doctor and have not seen anyone seen anyone for my hep b since i was diagnosed at age 14. I am now 31.. this is on my to do list asap.i did not realize anything was to be done for it actually thata wahy
Hi engr delacruz! I would like to see your doctor too. My doctor prescribed me lamivudine but I haven't take it yet because a friend told me that it is harmful. my hbvdna is 23 million, hbasg +ve, hbeag +ve, alt is 66 (normal is 30). thanks.
Yes it is curable because I'm already cured. I take selenium supplementation combined with entacavir baraclude. My mom was on antiviral, then quit antiviral and started going natural. She was also cured. Every type of treatment will depend on your condition so a laboratory test should be done before any treatment or medication.
Send me a private message so I can give you full details of my doctor. I don't think it is allowed to put doctors here the forum. Lamivudine is probably the oldest form of antiviral with some side effects, high chance of relapse. Your lab results shows you are in the active case, highly infectious. You have to monitor for 6 months if the lab results would get better or worse.
I have been taking baraclude for two and half years.My latest test reports are as follows.
HBV DNA -undetectable
HBeAg - Non reactive
All other tests are normal. can you share your history to clear hbsag?
I took selenium supplementation while under baraclude treatment. My Hbsag continuously drops and become non-reactive in 24 months. Based from your result I think your Hbsag is now in a good low range and what you need to do is to boost your immune system to eliminate hbsag totally and be cured. There is peginterferon and there are also natural immune booster. It's your choice but before you try this you will have to first lower your sgpt/sgot to normal levels.
Stef 2011, I sleep well, I eat well, I exercise well, I don't hv any problem with my body, I take fruits, I eliminated calorie intake, yet still my hbsag is still around b/n 747iu/ml and 633 iu/ml, I have taking most immune stimulants like garlic, ginger etc. help me what to do, I am not on any medication now.
Hi Stef for Engr_JDelacruz i suggest he try first the normal vaccine since it s not expenssive. mean while wait for my result I will take the first shot of the SCI-b-Vac on the 30th March. The cost for this latter 4 ampouls was nearly 1600usd as not sold in israeli pharmaci and only isra med do the selling.
So it will be a wise idea for Engr_JDelacruz to start with the normal vaccine the same time i am having my isreali one taken this way after 7 months if he will not devolop HBSab i will confirm to him if he should go with isreali one after i get a clear sight in seven months time.
Hi good day, i think we are same result sir, hbsag non reactive 0.29 cov 1.000
Anti hbs 7.19 non reactive cov 10.000. Feb 26, 2014 result. I took peg interferon started 2010 and ended june 2011 and my doctor gave me entecavir. And i was surprise because all my result are norma.
My Anti-hbs is slowly elevated. It is now at 1.29 this March. I will again look at this if it will continue to go upwards and for any possibility of being reactive for anti-hbs. Just give me some feedbacks on your vaccination and for others also who are now monitoring their anti-hbs and already cleared their hbsag please let's update each others status and hoping we can all have good level of protection for Hepa B.
Use Selenium, fish oil, heaps of Vitamin C up to 4000 mg a day, zinc, B12. Make sure to drink heaps of water and you will stay healthy. I never took any treatment, my viral level went to 2000 and SGPT 280, I had constant pain in my liver. Doctor told me that I need treatment but I came across a book written by Hepatologist in 1980s with this recipe. I start taking this stuff and after two months I my Viral level went down to 46 iu/ml and normal liver function. You need selenium and B12 to maintain low viral level and good liver function. Just make sure you drink heaps of water because these supplements will make you thirsty and body is trying to clean it self. If you don't you will have minor headaches and if you continue to take large amount of Vitamin C for long period without enough water you may end up with kidney stones. So make sure to let your body wash it self with the help of these supplements.
This is a good thread and it's really encouraging!
I also know a guy in China who said he made his Hbsag non-reactive by taking selenium(yeast) and other supplements, such as zinc(yeast), bee propolis, and royal jelly. He also exercise static qigong or Tai Chi everyday. I am gonna try this way from now on. Hope this helps!
Take those supplements since 2009 like so many other members here, no effect on hbsag they are only ment to keep liver oxidative stress lower and though less liver damage.he had cleared like 4%of us yearly
the cure of hbv is nucs for about 5 years and then pegintf add on and most clear like in the studies and in this forum
The selenium intake is around 1ml three times a day. This selenium which I took is a liquid form pharmaceutical grade selenium and not the ordinary food grade selenium found in vitamins and mineral tablets. It is prescribed by a doctor so I don't know how you can compare products. The supplement has it's limitations, it cannot cure high hbsag so antiviral is still important. So for active cases the combo is antiviral and selenium and monitors the hbeag and the hbsag drops. Those who are inactive cases meaning hbeag negative. The hbsag values should be below 1000 iu/ml on Abott Architect quantitative hbsag. Different cases will have different approach.
Update as of now my Anti-Hbs has increased to 5 and still non reactive since values must reach 10 or greater. It is continually increasing and it's been 1 year since my Hbsag becomes non-reactive. I will continue to monitor my anti-hbs maybe quarterly or semi annual to see if it becomes reactive naturally. If you have any questions feel free to message here or send some private message. God Bless everyone. Just keep an open mind, think positive and always believe the lab results for it will never lie. If your formula doesn't work, change it, review and revise until you find the right formula to eliminate the virus totally. Remember every treatment in HBV is a study, a trial and error.
Beware of spammers, selenium is a simple supplment any brand is ok since no selenium has any effect on hbv infection.we all take it for general health and for liver cancer prevention but none of us clear hbv
If you are in the Philippines you can go to my natural doctor. I don't post brand or location because other people might see this as a spam or a form of marketing strategy or whatever a dirty mind can think of. You can message me for details. Yes selenium is for general health and for liver cancer prevention so if it prevents liver cancer then it maybe doing something good. Problem is most people is not open to other ideas that's why they remained sick. While I believe in the power of medicine which is a controlled science. I do not close my mind because when it comes to the human body, there are many possibilities and things which have not been explored. I do not have the clinical trial or studies to support my claim. I am not a doctor and I can only share my experience and if I can meet people in this forum and show the lab results and my personal battle with HBV and how to win. Maybe there will be a change of heart and mind.
That's good to hear. Small sure steps in a consistent basis for a number of years will have huge impact on eliminating the virus. If you guys are taking antivirals for a number of years then it's pretty sure that your virus level are very low. Why not find small ways to make your immune system better while taking the antiviral therapy instead of having to wait for 5 years before replacing antiviral with peg-int which will only give you 10% chance as per clinical studies. As I said I am no doctor but I find the method logical and I did it and was successful. You inspired me with your combo-therapy and this is the primary approach and I deeply search for ways to achieve this using other methods. A more simpler, cheaper and natural method. There maybe different path but our goal is the same which is to eliminate HBV. I did it and share how it happen to help. My mom was also cured. I have two brother who still have HBV. One is a chronic case but don't want to take antiviral and I'm having a hard time convincing him. One is an inactive case which is a different case from me and my mom.
Hi edz28. Take the following lab test so we would know your condition.
1. Hbsag w/ titer (CMIA)
Just an info for every readers, My Anti-hbs has now reach reactive level.
This was reflected on my lab test this March 2015. Approximately 15 months from the time my Hbsag becomes non-reactive. God Bless everyone, be safe and be healthy.
Ito po yun pinapamonitor sa akin since po nagpacheck-up po ako six months ago. Yun results po ng ANTI-HBEAG ko po raw ay non-reactive at nasa acute stage po raw ako dahil yun ANTI-HBC IGM ko ay reactive po.
Tumaas raw po dahil sa food intake at pinapaprevent po yun mga food na meat based.
Salamat po sa inyo dahil kayo po ang ginagamit na instrumento po ni Lord para po tumulong sa mga nangangailangan ng paggaling sa sakit.
My nabanggit rin po pala na isinabay po ninyo para po sa mabilis na paggaling at zero conversion ng HBsAg. Nag-message po ako sa inyo.
Sana po matulungan nyo ako at mabigyan ng impormasyon.
Same Doctor nyo pala ako nagpapacheck-up at yun binanggit nya po pala ay yun DNA stem cell na sinabay po nyo or yun mother nyo po. And nabasa ko rin po dito sa thread. Sa ngayun po liquid selenium na galing po kay Doc and other supplements po ang tini-take ko.
Nabasa ko rin po dito na isinabay nyo po sa selenium yun baraclude, which same goes na binanngit rin po nya na pwede po para po maibaba yun hbsag ko. Although non-reactive po ang hbeag ko, pero nabasa ko po dapat nasa 1,000 iu/ml po.
And naniniwala po right combo po at continues prayer and faith kay Lord ay gagalng po tayo.
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