Hepatitis B shot is it a necessary for babies?

[cheshiresniper]

I have heard that the babies immune system is not capable of handling the vaccine.  If this is so why give it at all?  Doesn't this just cause more damage then it would prevent?

[orphanedhawk]

   I heard a doctor talking on the radio the other day about this very thing. They were saying hospitals were giving babies shots without getting the parents permission. This doctor did not believe that infants were ready for all of these vaccinations and some are now being recognized as problematic, causing autism and more. I would research this very carefully if I were you.
   Good luck.

[Alady1620]

I know there is a lot of hoopla about babies and immunizations but I can tell you this...I would have never forgiven myself had I forgone the Hep B vaccine for my children and they had caught it as infants.  Now, THAT could be deadly.

Hep B is spread rather easily.  Why take the risk by not getting your children vaccinated?

[illo]

Before you vaccinate a baby, especially one whose immune system is just building, and especially vaccines that contain mercury, or thimerosal, please read this document:

http://gnhealth.com/scripts/prodList.asp

They can always get one later.  Vaccinosis, I call it.  Don't forget, autism is one of the side effects, SIDs is another.  The companies that make vaccines cannot be held responsible if a child has a reaction to them.  Your choice.  

Another site:

http://www.ctvia.org/index.cfm?folder=51

I have a friend that home schooled so they didn't have to get them.  They are in their teens now, and the healthiest kids I've seen.  Never sick.

[illo]

http://www.gnhealth.com/Documents/Vaccines/MoratoriumOnHepB.htm

  

The following document was provided by
Burton A. Waisbren, Sr of the Waisbren Clinic
Website www.waisbrenclinic.com

UNIVERSAL HEPATITIS B VACCINATION:

A MORATORIUM SHOULD BE PLACED ON THIS EXPERIMENT
By Burton A. Waisbren, Sr., M.D., F.A.C.P., F.I.D.S.A.

Note: The information on this website is not a substitute for
diagnosis and treatment by a qualified, licensed professional.

My position is that the program of universal hepatitis B vaccination in the United States (U.S.) is an experiment being performed on our babies. A moratorium should be placed on this experiment until risk/benefit ratios are clearly defined.

First, I will explain why and how this experiment was implemented. I will then analyze the rationales used to sell the program to the public health establishment, state legislatures, and then the pediatricians. I will discuss the methods used to implement the experiment. Finally, I will offer opinions as to why a moratorium on universal hepatitis B vaccination would be beneficial to all concerned.

The concept of universal hepatitis B vaccination in the U.S. was conceived by Dr. Harold Margolis, the head of the hepatitis branch of the CDC and his staff. The concept was based on the following assumptions: Hepatitis B vaccine is safe; the attempt to vaccinate high risk individuals in the U.S. is failing to stem the spread of the disease; five percent or more of the individuals in the U.S. can be expected to get this disease; hepatitis B infection is spread by those without known risk factors; the "only way" to solve the problem of hepatitis B infection in the U.S. is by universal vaccination of babies.

Let us first examine these rationales.

   1. Hepatitis B vaccination is safe.

      Safety is not even mentioned in the initial presentations regarding universal hepatitis B vaccination. In later discussions flat assertions are made that the vaccine is safe.

      We all know that no vaccine, medication, or procedure is completely safe. The question always is, how safe? One wonders how the CDC continues to claim safety for this vaccine when they must be aware of thousands, yes thousands, of reports to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) of adverse events that followed hepatitis B vaccination. Included among these are numerous autoimmune diseases such as multiple sclerosis (M.S.), Guillain Barre¢ Syndrome, and autoimmune arthritis. One wonders how the CDC and FDA continue to reassure the public about the safety of the vaccine when the government program to pay individuals who have had adverse reactions to vaccine has paid out millions of dollars. One wonders how these agencies can continue their claims of safety when they must be aware that pharmaceutical companies have settled millions of dollars worth of claims for "failure to warn" vaccine sufferers about adverse reactions. They did this rather than letting the cases go to trial. Secrecy was always the caveat of these settlements. One wonders how these agencies and pharmaceutical companies continue to make flat statements regarding safety when there are at least twenty articles in the peer reviewed medical literature about diseases such as M.S. and optic neuritis that occurred after hepatitis B vaccination.
   2. The attempt to vaccinate high risk individuals in the U.S. is failing to stem the spread of the disease.

      This may well be true but data presented about this is not entirely convincing.

[motheroffour]

I did not vaccinnate my youngest when he was a baby, though the vaccine was available.  About the only way I can even imagine a child contracting Hep B is if they were in a group day care situation and they were maybe bit by another child breaking the skin.  I signed waivers for him with the schools until they were all teens and then I did send them into the doc for vaccines.  My family doc did the same thing with his kids who are the same ages roughly as mine. It's been many years since the vaccine became available so perhaps even my doc is encouraging parents who have children in a risk situation to vaccinate, I'm just sharing what I did.  The vaccine was not available when my older kids were babies so it was never a decision to be made.  I'm not hugely big on some of the newer vaccines like chickenpox etc.  because I don't believe that enough time has gone by to prove the efficacy.   I'm not even a huge proponent of the Heb B vaccine as a life long lasting vaccine - too many people seem to have to go get "revaccinated".

[motheroffour]

One other thing, the original poster says "the disease is spread rather easily".  I'm wondering what they mean as I thought it was not "easily spread" much like Hep C which if my aging brain cells can remember back 15 years ago is what my doc said.   I thought it was Hep A that was easer to catch from food and things and that Hep A is acute and does not become chronic?

[dlr2007]

Hi Everyone- Well I wasn't even educated enough to 2nd guess any vaccinations for my kids, but I can say this. Both my kids got double Hep B vaccinations- one right after birth I think, the next at the 1st Dr visit. And they were fine. They got extra Hep B vaccines cuz I'm Hep C+ and they said the vaccine had some effectiveness against the kids getting Hep C from me. I wonder if that's true or just what they thought "back then"? My kids are ancient- 9 and 13- lol.
  Anyway, just my input. My kids also had ther live polio vcaccine, and now I guess they just give the "killed" vaccine. Anything regarding your kids is so hard- we want the best for them and just wish we ALWAYS knew what it was!
-Dee

[kittyface]

The rate of autism has dramatically increased, currently 1 out of 250 kids and lots of scientific minds are pointing to vaccines.  Although most of us had vaccinations since the '50's with seemingly few problems, they have more vaccinations today, different formulations and frequently inject 4 or more at a time.  Since Hep B is spread sexually and through blood transfusions I don't think the benefits outweigh the risk of vaccinating babies.  I pointed this out to a hospital nurse who was trying to persuade us to vaccinate my day old grandson and she became so rabid I wondered what was really at stake.  The drug companies are really pushing this one.

Speaking of drug companies pushing, I live in Texas where Governer Rick Perry unilaterally signed an executive mandate that every girl age 12 and over would be vaccinated against HPV (contracted sexually) in order to attend public school.  HPV can cause cervical cancer but there are 17 strains and the vaccine was effective against only two.  Not to mention that long term side effects were unknown.  Thankfully there was such a public uproar over this invasion of privacy and body that the legislature overturned the order.   The manufacturer Pfizer is on a campaign to have the whole nation of preteen girls immunized and stands to make billions.

So bottom line is I would consider very carefully the risk/benefit and if you choose to have them try to do one or two at a time so the baby's system doesn't get overwhelmed.  And you don't have to be vaccinated to attend public school.  All you need is a letter from the doctor saying that it would be detrimental to that individual's health.

Kittyface

[Medfan]

You just do not understand the whole concept of immunization. If all of us felt this way that you do years ago we would have not received the smallpox vacine and it woud still be around today. The fact is it was pretty much eradicated in the US due to imunization. It's not about immunizing the baby. It's about the adolesent (adolescent) that was immunized as a baby will now be protected against this terrible disease. I promise you it is a terrible disease. The physicans and nurses only get upset when you do not immunize because they feel it is a risk the children need not have. Your little bit of money you pay them for a shot in the grand scheme of things is very small. I was just looking for information on side effects and stumbled on this site. I hope that this is just a small group of people that beleive this way. The bad diseases need to be abolished.