when they can come up with a pill form of resveratrol count me in for a script. until then i will pass. this red wine thing has been going on for many years with different health benefits. lol, all i can picture is going to my hep doc and he un-corks a btl of red wine and we sip it while i ask him questions. all along telling me it is like medicine. hehe
I heard this on the news tonight too. This may be well and good for people who don't have Hep C or advanced fibrosis. This info should definately come with a disclaimer. I bet lots of folks are going to think they should run out and drink a bunch of red wine when there livers are already damaged.
Telling people who are problem drinkers or who are addicted to their cocktail/beer/wine thing, that they will be helped by wine, is risky. People who are cirrhotic who go out and start drinking red wine are just going to get worse liver damage. I took this news flash to be aimed mostly at people with fatty livers, the obese with Type II diabetes, etc. NOT at people who have ongoing liver damage from Hep C. That's my opinion and I know that some others WILL disagree with me. But, it's mine and I'm sticking to it!
"These data suggest that ethanol is a complementary component of phenolics in the benefits of red wine for hamsters and that chronic ingestion of PE in ethanol prevents the development of atherosclerosis through several mechanisms. With moderate consumption of red wine, ethanol can improve the effects of phenolic compounds. However, alcohol-free red wine appears to be a very good alternative to red wine."
ccording to GMA this morning and "the rest of the story" a 150 lb person would have to drink 1500 bottles of red wine to be the equivilant of what the mice had.... Don't think that even if I didn't have HCV, I would want to be drinking anywhere near that much alcohol.
As your quote shows, the study did not use red wine but resveratrol and it is geared more towards diabetics and does not consider the impact upon persons suffering from liver diseases. The latter something most of us need to take away from this before seeing it as a green light to start sipping the vino.
BTW, anyone want to start threads on smoking, religion, and given that this is an election year, politics to see if we can cover ALL the bases on hotbeds in order to find out if one of them provides the bait to stir the group up? Seems we've already covered the drinking and pot topics.
well, even following your logic, that it's the fermentation process that helps bring about this chemical in this particular element, the alcohol alone in this is still not "benefitial" to people with liver problems...it has to do with the molecular structure of alcohol to begin with...yeah, and I agree with GrandOak, this is not to start an alcohol thread again, I'd rather slowly pull out my toenails...
dose anybody know about more recent study on this issue ?
I've read couple of contradictory things, some (most of them) say alcohol is forbidden in HBV, some say that one - two gals of wine (especial read wine) per week is save and can be beneficial.
One doctor say that in case of inactive patients one / two glas of vine or beer per week can be OK (liver will not have any harm on this), but this is not recommended because more then this amount can be dangerous, even for people without any infection
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