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ano po b d dpat kainin?

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hello everyone. good thing i found this community.  im also a hepa b chronic. nalaman q lng un nung ngpamedical aq last nov 2010 though i was reactive of hbsag last may 2010. sbi ng dr nung una mwawala dn un kc based on results s hepa profile q ok nmn dw then i had to take the hepa b profile again. pro d q maintindhan un results kc wla ung dr ilang arw n so i really dnt have idea n. ngayon d p qnkakapagpacheck up ulit kc natatakot aq. an anyone pls help me ano po b dpat gwin? mwawala po b ito?
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meron din ako hepa b chronic.....healthy carrier...doctor na nirecommend sakin  gastroenterologist yan ang doctor na xpert pra sa mga my hepatitis at sympre doktor yan pra sa liver..punta ka na malapit na hospital sa inyo tpos ask ka kung my doktor cla na gastroenterologist..or dun sa doctor sa pagtatanungan mo magpa recommend ka kung my kilala clang doctor na gastroenterologist...sna po makatulong
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I have chronic hep b and still lack of diagnosis or lab test for further knowledge about this virus. I'm looking for a doctor pls. recommend one... I'm living in metro manila..
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I’m 26 y/o, licensed engineer....straight guy but no girlfriend, for reasons takot akong mka hawa since i first knew i was infected...

well, here's my story:

I was diagnosed in july 2010 when i was about to donate blood in a major hospital in manila. at that time, i was confused kasi ako nalang naiwan dun at indi pa ako tinawag, lahat nung after sakin nkapagdonate na..nilapitan ko ang isa sa mga nurse at tinanong kung bakit wala pa results ko..at first indi ako mkapaniwala, di korin alam kung ano ang hepa B..the nurse told me that i was not called to donate because i have HBV..i was shocked!!! really shocked!!!

Major symptoms: tiredness, fatigue, dark urine, loss of confidence, confusion...

I then told my parents about it first my mom and then my dad and then my sisters...
just to verify the results, we went to have the hepa profile to find out the details of the infection. damn, the test itself was expensive..it was like 7k in all, not to mention the meds the docs have given me to take..

Here was the initial result:

HbsAg - 2651 - reactive
Anti-Hbs - 2.0 - non reac
Hbeag - 504 - reactive
anti Hbe - 2.29  - non reac
anti HbcIgM - 0.122 - non reac
anti HbcIgG - 0.268 - reactive
anti HCV - 0.433 - non reac

SGPT - 827 (normal is 42 U/L)  - this is like 20x normal range, absolute way out!!!
HBV DNA viral load - 261, 703 IU/ml --- like every cell in my body has the virus

NUMERICAL ANATOMY CLEARLY STATES THAT I'M A CHRONIC HEP B CARRIER
THE NUMBERS WERE JUST ASTRONOMICAL!!!!!!!

i went to 2 doctors, same recommendation - GET MEDICATION as early as possible..
i just can't imagine how i can afford such meds where each of it cost Php400 a tablet..not to mention you'll take it everyday for the rest of your life...

then i went to the  THIRD doctor, which happens to be my dad's doctor, an alternative medicine practitioner...

he took a glance on the results and did not even bother to analyze it...

well, here were his recommendations:
1. 3000 mg of vit C a day, if you got sick, double the amount, or you can have up to 10kmg
depending on your body tolerance
-in order to gauge tolerance,  try taking as many tablets as possible, stop if you get diarrhea-like symptoms, that would be your limit, mine is about 12k mg
2. 2 tablets of 400UI vit e a day (myra E is good)
3. unlimited vegetables, less carbo
4. sufficient amount of fats (meat, chicken (skin), pork) - for vit e absorption
5. exercise regularly
6. 8 hours of sleep a day
7. stress avoidance
8. NO ALCOHOL/SOFTDRINKS/CIGAR
9. water therapy - at least 10 glasses per day,, better if more - for vit c absorption
-vitamin C is useless w/o water therapy, it needs water to be dissolved in the body
10. be happy, avoid watching sad movies
11. be with people
12. sillimarin capsule 2x a day – for the liver to recover
13. use protection/condom ALWAYS
14. NO FRUITS – avoid sweets, vitamin C is enough
- fructose has the same molecular structure as vitamin c; if there are many fructose present in the body, vitamin C may have a difficult time binding to a healthy cell
-in other words, vit c needs the kind of receptors fructose is capable of binding also into in order to serve it’s function
-if those receptors are already occupied by fructose, vitamin c cannot protect or bind to the cell, hence useless
-why take fruits when you can get what you want in a vit c tablet?
15. PRAYERS PRAYERS PRAYERS!!!!!

I did add some herbal medicinal wine from a brand name called ‘moreishi’...2 table spoons a day
Above mentioned is simple, yet very difficult to follow regularly. I did not take any alcohol for 5 months since then, just pure water.



Pricing: Vit C 500mg – 1 bottle rhea (brand) - 100 tablets – Php 125
              Vit E 400UI – 1 bottle myra brand – 30 tablets – Php 310 (may promo sa mercury, 8 tabs for a  
               price of six tabs)
              Sillimarin – any brand 30 tablets– Php 500-600
            
COMPARED TO PHP 400 a tablet prescribed by the other doctors.

By the time i took the second results, I was nervous because the laboratory called me to get second samples of my blood. I was so scared, maybe i have another disease that may not have been discovered before or maybe i need to get medication right away. They even asked me what medicines i took.

5 months later (December 2010):
HbsAg - 0.595 - non reactive
HbeAg - 0.127 - non reactive
SGPT – 33 – WOW!!!!  my liver is well and OK now

-these two, surface antigen(HbsAg) and envelope (HbeAg, the contagious component) are the basic ones to detect if you have HBV or not, the rest are just plain secondary variables; i did not took viral load test since it's too expensive (Php 5000)

POINTS TO PONDER AND UNDERSTAND:

1. the body has the capability to fight off infection; it can produce armies, in this case, antihbs/antihbe, to eliminate hbv; the natural way, is the better way
2.you cannot eliminate the virus itself through medication, why kill it by taking in antiretrovirals? – it can kill you with adverse effects; on top of that, they are very expensive
3.why create artificial killing machines, while you can utilize your own – supplements and proper diet plus healthy lifestyle can do the job
4. western medicine is ‘symptomatic’, meaning it cures the symptoms not the actual cause of the symptoms.
Yes,  hep b is caused by the HB virus. But why does hep b penetrated into your system in the first place?
This is because of poor or low immunity. Why not strengthen it so it can heal itself? Poor immune system cannot cope up with the rapid multiplication of the virus, resulting to outnumbering the helper cells needed to fight infection. That is why you need plenty of supplements (vit c/e) for rapid production of fighter cells in order for seroconversion to take place.
-seroconversion – the moment when the body starts making antibodies (anti HBs/anti HBe)to fight the infection
- Makes sense? of course, if you have senses...
5. Chronic hep b accounts only to 2% of the total infected people.. most of the infection is gone because the body naturally gets rid of it. If the body cannot get rid of it for about 6 months, because of low immunity, then it will lead to chronic stage. The problem is, HBV is 50-100 times more contagious than HIV, making it very difficult to prevent. The result is about 2 billion at least or more are living with HBV (chronic/non chronic) worldwide. Many of whom do not even notice they are infected. The earlier you get diagnosed, the better. Because our disease can lead to liver cancer if not treated early.

I was very happy at the time i got the second results.
I need to add something, TRUST GOD above else and BELIEVE that you can be cured. This experience taught me a lot.

I will be taking my third test this end of may 2011, hope and pray for me guys, i’ll pray for you too...!!

KAYA NATIN TO!!!! JUST DO NOT LOOSE HOPE, TRUST GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART..I DID IT, I WANT YOU TO DO THE SAME...

Sana nka tulong ako sa inyo...Until then...
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Myra 400 IU
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guys ask q lng,san ba pwd mgpa'hepa profile ng mejo mura?tight kc budget eh..
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hi!ask q lng wat brand ung vitamin e na tinake mu..
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meron po tayong org... name po yellow warriors sa yahoo group of type nyo po dun hepabcarrier philppines
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Maybe we were called by God so that we will come to Him. Entrust your life to Jesus and all your anxiety will be gone. Just live a healthy and normal life. God definitely a plan for us.
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hehehe, curious din kasi i don't know what's been happening to my system pero i'm a little scared kasi ang pinanghahawakan ko lang is yung sabi sakin ng doctor ko 2 years ago na i cleared the virus but what if it was just too sudden to conclude? what if mali pala? what if hindi pala diba? hehehe, now i believe yung kasabihan na nakakatakot malaman ang katotohanan, hehehe... i'm just not ready again to face otherwise kasi all i know im okay.. hehe and the worst thing is i believed that i'm okay and it would take me long to accept otherwise.. hehe..
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prince naka send na ako ng email sa add na binigay mo, dun mo na lang send yung pics ha hehehe... ayyy sayang sana nakapag pa.test ka na, hindi ka ba excited and curious na malaman? sige prince take care...
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Thank you po... cge cge buy ako myra maya pag mag lakad ako, katamad kasi umalis... heheh, anyway, yes im sure of you seing my picture, i guess there is nothing wrong with that besides i do trust you. ayun, cge po yung anti hbs nalang yung papatest ko.. di pa po pala ako nakakapa test, i was doing something kasi kaninang morning and may be this afternoon nalang or bukas.. :)
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hello prince sige, i'll email you, pero sure ka gusto mong email sa akin yung picture? okey lang ba na makita ko mukha mo? pero i think 2 years ago na yun and definitely you have no jaundice na.

once that you have anti HBs 100% worry free ka na coz you are protected for your entire life ng Hep B, nag pa blood test ka na ba? anti HBs lang yung kunin mo, the rest are unnecessary test, yan lang ang importante, less than 500.00 pesos lang yan.

yah naguguluhan din ako kasi after 2 years pa lumabas yung symptoms mo, pwede ka namang magka hep b not through sexual contact, pero anyway you're cleared na so nothing to worry about.

Myra 400 IU yung bilhin mo, once a day lang yan, nung may jaundice pa ko twice a day,, ngayong wala na once a day na lang...

prince pag isipan mo muna if you really want to send your pictures, it might invade your privacy kasi, pero sure ako wala na yan, jaundice kasi is NOT a disease, its a symptom of disease, since non reactive ka na, imposible namang may jaundice ka pa.

para kasi mawala yang paranoia mo hehehe....... magpa anti HBs ka na friend... pag positive care free ka na...
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i read your comment for me in another post just now, regarding dun sa incubation period. I assure i had the virus on summer of 2007 kasi after that i never had contact with anyone. and when i mean contact it was just a kiss. i had a lip sores nun kasi nakagat ko lip ko then naging sugat/sores so portal of entry yun. when i kissed the subject i had my sores and i knew then that i could have the virus kasi nga may portal of entry. after that event i cant remember having contact with anyone again. by the summer of 2009 i was diagnosed to be hvb positive and i had the symptoms,so 2 years yun bago nag appear ang symptoms.
naguluhan tuloy ako bigla bakit sakin matagal nag appear?
i take your conclusion naman po na i might had the virus from another person which i cant remember to have contact with another. hmmmm.... ??
if i did not have contact with someone again eh surely 2 years nga bago nag appear and signs and symptoms.. could that be posible eh may incubation period? nakapag tataka naman,.
anyway forget it nalang nga po, hehhee...
miss bianca, i want you to see my picture for you to determine kung i still have this yellowish color, though i am negative but i dont think i totally back to my normal color.. kaso i cant just give my email here na everyone can read, aw wait i make new one nalang then you can email me back so that i could knw your email so i can email you my picture.. kasi po nurse ka and you know how to tell kung is it a jaundice or just my paranoia. heheh
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wow di ko alam yan ah, hmm.. drink din pala ako vitamin E.. ako kasi tuloy tuloy padin ako umiinom ng sylimarine plus kahit sabi ng doc ko negative nako, sylimarine kasi yun and vitamin B complex and other vitamins... try ko din pala uminom ng vitamin E.

@nimrodken : di ko din po alam na strictly no pork diet ang may hepa, kasi when i was recovering kinakain ko kahit ano gusto ko including pork, until now nga im eating pork kasi wala naman ako idea na bawal.. huhuhu, chiken nalang makakain ko tsaka vege kasi i dont eat fish.. :( cge starting now i wont eat pork na.. though sabi ni doc negative nako and 2 years ago na yun yet i still worry kaya i take it as an advice nalang.. STRICTLY NO PORK sana mapanindigan ko.. hehe

@girlbiancagomez: i take it as an advice nadin, start nako inom ng vit E tomorrow.. nu po ba magandang brand? since generic naman ang vit e. vague sakin kung ano yung trusted brand na may enough na mg/cap and panu po ba yun iniinom? 2x/day or every morning or every evening?

thank you...
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sa akin very effective talaga ang vitamin E, nawala na jaundice ko, gumanda pa skin ko, kahit na nga wala na akong hep b umiinom pa rin ako ng vitamin E kasi pumuti and kuminis yung skin ko, hehehe
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Thank you miss bianca.. =^..^=
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Big enough to one hehehe/// Thank you...Can you post some good diets for those who have liver problems... Kasi ako strictly no pork lng alam ko.. hhehehe
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yes I will... every year there's 1-3% chance na maka clear yung virus sa may mga chronic... so may pag asa pa.
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I hope that I'm healthy carrier... If only i could turn back the time....hehehe Pls. include us in your prayer and petition... Thank you..
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hehehe, pa test ka na lang ng Anti Hbs, para huwag ka na gumastos ng malaki, pag positive ka dito meaning immune ka na... prince mag ingat na, kasi nauuso HIV ngayon, patay tayo dyan wala talagang gamot sa HIV...
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yes i understand,  i was so paranoid when i found out may hep b ako before, but 90% of the adults they were able to clear the virus, pero natakot pa rin ako kasi baka i belong to the 10% na magiging chronic. pero thank God na clear ko... its ok nimrod healthy carrier ka naman di ba?
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i was tested negative 2 years ago, hmmmm... after that i never had my check up again...
napag iisip tuloy ako... hehe
anyway by monday mag papa blood text ako ulit to see whether i am still cleared of the virus... kasi di mawala sa isip natin na baka positive padin tayo.. i am just scared to know kung sakaling naging reactive na naman ako.. basta my doctor told me im negative and developed antibodies.. i was 20 years old then.. im 22 now..  too young to die =^..^= hehee but when its my time its my time.. heheh
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