Any one have left over meds?

[ladybug52]

I'm posting because there are a few people who post from time to time that are having difficulty getting meds, or are paying an exorbitant amount. Lady Y maxed out her ins, and she is on pegasys and riba, I am in contact with Sunshine as she pays an exorbitant amount for her meds even with ins. If we could all donate our used meds to each other it would be a great way to help each other out.
Bug

[rosebud57]

i'll keep them for a souvenior : )  (problem of hoof & mouth disease)

[rosebud57]

i have  2 procrit 20,000 units (40 total) and one peg-intron & some riba (its open maybe a closed also would have to look). So. CA

[jmjm530]

Just two recent examples, so as things are spelled out right.

Recently, I suggested to someone -- with an entirely different profile than myself -- that they consider a shorter course of treatment. Instead of you dealing with the subject and giving reasons why they might treat longer, you launched an ad hominem attack on my motives by asking the rhetorical question with words to the effect "ask him how long he treated". Now as that really necessary?

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And then in this tread where you say to me, "Telling her she "did nothing wrong" is bad advice ". Now, is it really necessary to call me out for "bad advice". Why can't you just make your point on the subject and move on.

These are just two examples, but this is your pattern to attack the person when the arguments run out. Unfortunatly, it's contagious and I've started doing the same thing back. I think we all ought to stop it.

[jmjm530]

I'm having a difficult time of dealing with your habit of misinterpreting/ mischaracterizing what I and others say,  and then lacing your responses with hostility as in your previous post.

I probably should just ignore your posts from now on, but it's difficult when you make allegations or comments that simply aren't true. In the future, I'll either try to ignore you, or spell things out in the kindest, simpliest and most gentle way I can. Hopefully, you will try and do the same, not only with me, but with others who routinely tangle with. Neither of us are doing this discussion group a service with this type of hostility.

As I've asked you in the past time and time again, if you disagree with something I say on a subject, please address the subject and not launch into an ad hominem attack on me or my motives. I will try and do the same.

-- Jim

[jmjm530]

Again, you misread/misinterpreted my post, and truthfully I haven't the foggiest idea what you're talking about. A few for instances before I call it a night.

Kalio: First of all the "aforementioned" person who was banned for soliciting meds was NOT a friend of mine nor did I even know the person, your insinuation is grossly offensive...
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WRONG person. I was referring to NYgirl who was not banned, nor was she ever soliciting med as far as I know. Re-read the previous post and maybe you'll get the point, although I doubt it.

Kalio: Your insinuation is that it is OK by me to solicit meds if it's for a friend of mine but not if it is for others if I don't know them. How incredibly rude of you to say such a thing, not to mention completely UNTRUE.
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What I said was why do you object here, when LadyBug wasn't even trying to share meds with anyone when in the past people offered meds to the aforementioned person (she didn't take them to my knowledge) and you said nothing. If you think this is "rude" you ought to know, since you're the queen of rude.

Kalio: Now that you have so rudely violated my privacy AND got the story wrong, the truth is I was contacted PRIVATELY for an email address to help another member so how you are privy to that information is highly suspicious and certainly is NOT something you had any right to bring up publically especially in an effort to smear me or make me look duplicious.
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HUH????????? Not only am I not privy to the information you just made public, or made any inferences about it, not do I have no idea what you're talking about.

Kalio: Trying to make sharing an email address with another forum member who came to ME so THEY could privately help into that I had participated in soliciting meds for friends of mine but was selective in whom I would help is incredulous.
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Again, I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't know who this "another forum member" is nor did I make any such references. You're reading something into my post that simply doesn't exist.

Kalio: I had no part in the meds or sharing the meds other than passing on an email address. You certainly weren't involved in any way, how dare you violate my privacy and try to malign me.
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Again, I never said you shared meds with anyone. Can you please tell me where I either said or insinuated it. I'm confused again.

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In summary, I think you completely misinterpreted my response to you and processed it in what I consider a very paranoid way. I'm sure others who calmly re-read the thread will see that we're having two entirely different conversations.

[Kalio1]

First of all the "aforementioned" person who was banned for soliciting meds was NOT a friend of mine nor did I even know the person, your insinuation is grossly offensive and you are making stories up besides. Your insinuation is that it is OK by me to solicit meds if it's for a friend of mine but not if it is for others if I don't know them. How incredibly rude of you to say such a thing, not to mention completely UNTRUE.  I did nothing of the sort. I am all for sharing of meds HOWEVER, that has to be done privately and Ladybug was risking being banned so I told her it was not OK and in fact illegal so she wouldn't get in hot water. You of course had to butt in, as usual, and try to make it about me being selective in helping others which is rude beyond belief, particularly since I have spent my ENTIRE life volunteering in my community.

Now that you have so rudely violated my privacy AND got the story wrong, the truth is  I was contacted PRIVATELY  for an email address to help another member so how you are privy to that information is highly suspicious and certainly is NOT something you had any right to bring up publically especially in an effort to smear me or make me look  duplicious. that's your forte, not mine. Just because you do one thing but advocate another doesn't mean everyone does.
Trying to make sharing an email address with another forum member who came to ME so THEY could privately help into that I had participated in soliciting meds for friends of mine but was selective in whom I would help is incredulous. I had no part in the meds or sharing the meds other than passing on an email address. You certainly weren't involved in any way, how dare you violate my privacy and try to malign me.
I had my email out there AS YOU KNOW because of my helping HR field email contacts!


I wanted to warn her it is a bannable offense, I could tell she had NO IDEA it was wrong so I told her it was wrong to PROTECT her.. She seemed grateful for the info as Im sure her intent was only to help someone else, not to be kicked off.

To then twist it into this story you have fabricated in your head that has nothing to do with the truth and in addition violate my privacy on a completely unrelated manner and try to make it look as if I am somehow opposed to sharing meds and helping one another because I told Ladybug it wasn't allowed and was illegal is really low.

[AMERIBOI2003]

You know how to get in touch with me if I can be of any assistance with my benefits as a flight attendant.  Thank you for doing what you do best!!!  All my love to you and yours!!!  

By His Grace,
Rick

[jmjm530]

Kalio: Telling her she "did nothing wrong" is bad advice and could get her banned.
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Again, you post without reading what someone says. LadyBug was simply asking a question for group comment, she was not trafficiking in rx drugs nor suggesting other should. Or maybe this topic is illegal?

As far as I know, there's nothing illegal about a patient returning their meds to a doctor or hospital. I also don't believe it's illegal for a doctor or hospital to pass meds along to their patient in need. Like LadyBug, I'm not encouraging anyone to do anything illegal, just furthering the discussion. Again, it's interesting that when your aforementioned friend needed some meds, you didn't seem to have any problems when people came forth with help.

Mike, I think you spelled it pretty well, at least in lawyer english :)

-- Jim

[mikesimon]

While I don't suggest that the motivation is not pure, soliciting meds or providing meds or arranging a transaction involving the exchange of meds is a violation of federal law and I would assume most, if not all, state laws and perhaps even local law. As such it is also a violation of the rules of this forum. That doesn't mean I would discouraging someone helping a member in need but I would urge that absolute discretion is exercised and therein lies the problem. Furthermore, I would not think that this is the type of violation that would be prosecuted by the feds but with this administration and justice system it would probably be wise to be a registered republican if you are going to engage in this type of thing, just to be safe. I'm kidding here.....sort of. Mike

[Kalio1]

The truth is, a member was banned from this site for doing the very same thing she was doing.

I know she is trying to do something nice because  we ALL wish could happen and that is to take the very expensive drugs people end up with that are "extra" and share them, it is a shame there isn't some way to do just that BUT it is not legal activity and is a bannable offense on this site. Telling her she "did nothing wrong" is bad advice and could get her banned. It is "wrong" according to the site rules not to mention federal law.

[jmjm530]

You did nothing wrong. All you did was ask if there was a way that some of us could help others with our meds. You should be commended. People here have been helped in the past here without breaking any rules. The key is to do it privately -- email, etc. --  so as not to involve MH. Many doctors will receive unused meds from patients and then distribute them to patients in need. So using a doctor as an intermediary is one way. I remember when NYGirl ran out of insurance, there was an outpouring of help in this regard, even though she went another route. I do not remember anyone posting that it was illegal then.

-- Jim

[orleans]

Very nice and thoughtful. thanks, jerry--later

[ladybug52]

Congratulations. I'm so happy for you. What a journey through fire. How's your vision and thyroid doing? I think about you all the time. I know you've been thru so much. Take care and please post again soon.
Hugs,
Bug

[ladybug52]

I appreciate your comments, ole big mouth Bug just blasts it out there.
I know "discretion is the greater part of valour" but I don't "look before I leap."

I know that with all the assistance programs available some still do not qualify for assistance. The meds are very expensive when you are paying out of pocket. I know people who have co-pays that are very expensive also. I'm not talking about trading valium (sorry I-horn) but about the meds we are already taking and being monitored  for by a dr. I wish I could figure out away to help others like a food bank, only a interferon/riba bank!
I use the initial of my first name j with the three first letters of my maiden name boz and the last three of my last name hall to get messages from others here. It's only used to communicate with others here.
I love my internet provided sbc at globaldotnet.
BTW I've read other posts that have started anyone need left over meds? So I'm just a copy-cat.
Bug

[orphanedhawk]

I'm not nygirl but I get my pegasys via Fed-ex. They come with a frozen cold pack. I phone them or they call me, we set up a day and my meds arrive at my door.
LB: I've been tempted to open a second hand drug store but the powers that be would arrest me no doubt. Keep up the good work.

[FlGuy]

Nicely done.  In order to pull off my current tx plan, my wife needed to do a little scrounging at medical office near where she works.  She came up with the pegs I needed because a kind anonymous stranger was looking out for a 'someone' he could help. The 'someone' turned out to be me.

[Kalio1]

It is ILLEGAL to "share" meds. You can not solicit meds on this site either, people have been banned for it in the past.

Only doctors can legally distribute drugs.

[ladybug52]

Thanks, I don't want to get in any trouble, it was just a stupid idea. I don't have anything to share right now anyhow. I quit at week 16 so all the meds were used up as they came in monthly supplies only.
Did you see Orphanhawks post to you regarding tx?
Bug

[scubadiver30]

I got extra ribavirin. 4 bottles to be exact 200 mg. Ladybug you can email me the address
Tonite was my last shot :-)
Regards
scuba

[copyman]

i have 4 shots of pegasys in sealed box & 1 month supply of riba (180 pills). they are yours if you want them. these were sent to me back a few months back when i was ready to start but then changed my mind. i even have the cold pack to ship them. let me know.

[LadyY]

Than was so kind of you. Thanks. I recvd a call back from pegassist and they are mailing me an application. So I'm not stressin' over this...something will work. I hope you will enjoy this weekend1. Thanks again lady
Yvonne

[l-horn]

As long as it is not a schedule-I drug I don't think 'The man' is gonna waste time with it. I wouldn't start shipping valium through the mail though.

[BonnieRobin]

Great idea....bad situation.
Not feesible especially under the circumstances that are obvious.

[dointime]

Could I ask how the interferon is actually sent in the post so that you can be sure it is kept cool?  Is it packed in dry ice?  Is it delivered via refrigerated truck?  How many hours is it in transit from the pharmacy to your home?  I suppose that you are notified when to expect it and you stay home for the delivery?  

Apologies for all the questions but we don't do this a whole lot in UK.

Thanks,
dointime.