Are these fats okay?

[Ironpony]

I have not been able to eat pb since the first day. and I don't know how much more dairy I can take. I absolitely love protein filled fats though...so is it okay to have like two hotdogs (which are 20 grams in fat) and take my incivek? Last night I had 4 ounces of ground beef with some sharp cheese on top. I just want to make sure that if my fat intake is more in the form of beef and meats/fatty ham(always 20 grams worth) that is acceptable. It will make this whole experience easier on me. Thanks!

[liverlover48]

It is good to know. I'm worried about gaining my weight. Now, I know I'll loose it. Thank you

[pooh55811]

Yes, it is a lot of fat. Personally, I stayed away from the junk food and sweets and tried to eat healthy food. My experience was that the farther away I got from a balanced diet, the worse I felt. I think you will have to see what you can tolerate. The taste buds go awayon treatment and things I generally liked I did not always like on treatment. Plus, if you have an underlying nausea like many of us did, even the thought of food makes one feel a little sick However, not eating also makes a person nauseated while on treatment. So, even if you feel nauseated, if it is time to eat or you know you should eat something, eat it. It is amazing how eating will make one less nauseated (on treatment). Not sure why that is. I had to eat some oddball stuff to spice up the regular meat and salads and stuff. I would eat beet pickels or regular pickles with my meat and sometimes greek olives or herbed olives. You will just have to see how it goes and figure out what works for you. Everyone is different. You can do it.

[dc6]

im lactose intolerant are the lactose foods ok to eat/drink ??

[dc6]

WOW !! HEART DISEASE & DIABETES WOULD THAT BE AN ISSUE WITH ALL THESE UNHEALTHY FOODS : HOHO'S BACON OREO'S ETC ???

[Ironpony]

Thanks! I am going to go super grocery shopping when I get paid. This all gives me an idea of what to go for. I hope to look back one day at me gagging all these fats down and laugh. I'm so glad that I only have to do the incivek for 12 weeks...!

[Sentinel13]

My desire for various foods was all over the map on Incivek. Some foods that I love, and initially ate a lot of, I can't stand to even think about now. If you are like me, be prepared to search for different foods during treatment.

Here are some thoughts:
  - Pepperoni
  - Grilled cheese sandwich
  - Pizza
  - Whole milk with strawberry Quick -- it's great if you take your Incivek at 2am (like I did) and you don't want to put the effort into making a meal.

If your butt starts burning then that probably means the Incivek is passing through your system and you need to eat more fat (maybe 30 grams) or maybe a larger meal to better absorb the Incivek.

[working dog]

i put butter on everything...and the drugs saturated my system...i could barely walk most of tx.....so butter must work well...good luck...billy

[80mecheng]

Someone at another site put together the long list below which includes some of the usual suspects and some healthy choices.  Hope this helps:

With the newest treatment for Hep C, the 3 cocktail treatment, you have to eat at specific times and specific things. With the treatment you have to take one of the treatments 3 times a day every 7 to 9 hours on time, and need to have about 20 grams of fat 20 to 30 minutes before you take the medication. I know what you might be thinking, 'I don't need to do that much' or 'That's not all that hard'. You would be surprised by the answer though. If you do not eat enough before the pills, they will end up making you extremely sick. Also, a lot of things you would think have a ton of fat in it, infact doesn't have much at all. This will be a working list of snacks and foods you can have before your medicines.

For this list I have, gotten a list from the doctor, gotten a list from a nutritional site, gone through our kitchen,and gone through two common restaurants nutrition facts listed on their sites. Where I have gotten the facts from other sites, I have the site listed.

If you know of other foods that you have that are about 20 grams of fat, feel free to post comments with them. Also if you have any questions feel free to post them.
Foods you can eat
that have about 20 grams of fat or more
NOTE: You can go for 18-20 grams, but the closer to 20 you are the better.

To begin with your Doctor may give you a list for you to use, my father's nurse did. This is the list she gave:

avocado, black 1 whole 25grams
avocado, green ½ 22grams
bacon 4 slices regular 22grams
butter 2Tbs 23grams
Mountain Medley
cheese, yellow 2 oz (2 slices) 18 grams
chocolate, dark 2oz 20grams
chocolate, white 2 oz 21 grams
cream cheese 2 oz 18 grams
Egg Nog 1 cup 19grams
frankfurter 1 16grams
French fries med 20 grams
hamburger 6 oz patty (85%) 26 grams
nuts, dry roast 2 oz 21 grams
olive oil 4tsp 19grams
peanut butter 3 tbsp 24 grams
salmon ½ filet 22grams
spam 3 oz 24 grams
trail mix (no choc) ½ cup 22 grams
whole milk (any) 16oz 14-22grams

Starbuck's
Any grande or venti size made with whole milk and whipped cream
has 18+ grams of fat.

What we have found out ourselves:
Hostess Foods (Values found on http://www.myfitnesspal.com/nutrition-fact...lories/hostess) :
Powdered Mini Donuts, serving: 4 donuts are 12 grams, so if you can eat 8 you would get 24 grams
Cupcake, serving: 1 cake is 7 grams, if you can eat 3 you would get 21 grams
Chocolate Mini Donuts, serving: 6 donuts are 22 grams
Twinkie, Serving: 1 cake is 4.5 grams, you would have to eat 6 twinkies to get just 18 grams
Ding ****, Serving: 1 cake is 9 grams, eat 2 and you would get 18 grams
Mini Muffins (Blueberry), Serving: 1 package is 8 grams, you need 2 packages and a bit of something else to get enough
Ho Hos, Serving: 3 cakes, 17 grams. This alone would be close to enough, but it is best to get up to 18.
Chocolate or Vanilla Zingers, Serving: 3 cakes, 15 grams. Add one more cake to get your 20
Honey Bun-Iced, Serving: 1 cake, 22 grams
Apple Pie, Serving: 1, 20 grams
Coffee Cakes, Serving: 2, 12 grams. Have 3 to get 18 grams

Cookies:
Keebler E. L. Fudge, Serving: 2 cookies, 7 grams. 6 cookies will get you 21
Keebler Fudge Sticks, Serving: 3 cookies, 8 grams. 9 cookies will get you 24
Nabisco Chips Ahoy, Serving : 3 cookies, 8 grams. 9 cookies will get you 24
Nabisco Oreos, Serving: 2 cookies, 7 grams. 6 cookies will get you 21

Chips:
Ruffles Original, Serving: 28 grams (about 12 chips), 10 grams. Eat about 24 chips to get 20 grams
Lays BBQ chips, Serving: 28 grams (about 12 chips), 10 grams. Eat about 24 chips to get 20 grams
Doritos Taco Chips, Serving: 28 grams (about 10 chips), 8 grams. Eat about 25 chips to get 20 grams.

Meat Meals:
Armour Vienna Sausage : Can, 23 grams
Jimmy Dean Snack Size Sausage Biscuits : 2 biscuits, 26 grams
Jimmy Dean Pancake and Sausage Bowl: 34 grams
Underwood Devil Ham : 1 can, 30 grams
Ballpark Hot Dog with White Bun : 18 grams
Johnsonville Chili and Cheese Brat without bun: 18 grams
Spam Single Classic: 22 grams
El Monterey Burrito, Beef and Bean : 14 grams for 1, have 2 for 28 grams
Lunchable Cracker Stackers Bologna and American: 22 grams
Lunchable Cracker Stackers Ham and Cheddar: 21 grams

MISC:
Reeses Big Cups: 2 cups, 24 grams
Townhouse Crackers : 20 crackers, 18 grams

Wendys:
When something says 'No personalization' it means the sandwich how you would get it if you just asked for it without any guidelines of toppings.
For more check out their site for nutritional facts :http://wendys.com/food/NutritionLanding.jsp

Frostys:
Large caramel frosty - 19 grams
Large Original Chocolate frosty - 15 grams
Large Vanilla Frosty- 16 grams
Large Chocolate frosty Shake - 18 grams
Large strawberry frosty shake - 16 grams
Large Vanilla Bean Frosty shake - 16 grams
Large Wild Berry Frosty Shake - 16 grams

Sides:
Medim French Fries - 21 grams
Garden Side Salad (No personalization)- 13 grams
Caesar Side Salad (No personalization)- 17 grams
Large Chili - 9 grams. I suggest if you want chili to get a salad to put it on to get your 20 grams.
1/4 lb Single (No personalization)- 28 grams

Sandwiches:
1/4 LB Single (Just the Bun and Patty) - 17 grams
1/4 LB Single (Bun, Patty, Cheese) - 24 grams
The rest of the hamburgers are more then 17 grams.
Homestyle Chicken Go Wrap - 16 grams, just ad a bit more to the meal to reach your 20.
Crispy Chicken Caesar Wrap - 25 grams
Monterey Ranch Crispy Chicken Sandwich (No personalization) - 20 grams
Crispy Chicken Sandwich (No personalization) - 16 grams
Crispy Chicken Deluxe (No personalization) - 24 grams
Asiago Ranch Chicken Club (No personalization) - 33 grams
For more check out their site for nutritional facts :http://wendys.com/food/NutritionLanding.jsp

McDonalds:

For more check out their site for nutritional facts : http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/nutritionex...ritionfacts.pdf

Sandwiches:
Double Burger : 19 grams
1/4 LB With Cheese : 26 grams
Big Mac: 29 grams
Big N tasty : 24 grams
Angus Bacon And Cheese: 39 grams
Fish Sandwich : 28 grams
Rib Sandwich: 26 grams
Chicken Sandwich: 16 grams
Premium Crispy Chicken: 22 grams
Premium Grilled Chicken Club: 16 grams
Premium Crispy Chicken Club: 29 grams

Snack Wraps:
ranch (crispy) : 19 grams
ranch (grilled) : 12 grams
Honey Mustard (crispy) : 15 grams
Honey Mustard (griled) : 8 grams
Chipotle BBQ (crispy) : 15 grams
Chipotle BBQ (Grilled) : 8 grams
Angus Bacon and Cheese : 21 grams
Angus Chipotle Bacon: 22 grams
Angus Delux: 25 grams
Angus Mushroom and Swiss: 26 grams
Mac Snack: 19 grams

Fries:
Small: 11 grams
Medium : 19 grams
Large: 25 grams

Chicken:
6 nuggets: 18 grams
3 piece select: 23 grams

Any salads get them with CRISPY chicken. Grilled is typically less then 10 grams, crispy chicken is 15-20+ grams

Breakfast:
Mcmuffin: Get with Sausage to get above 20 grams
All biscuits are above 20
All Mcgriddles are good
All Big Breakfasts are good
Sausage Burrito: 16 grams
Hotcake: 9 grams, need to have sausage with them to get to 24 grams
Hashbrown : 9 grams, have 2 for 18 grams

Desserts:
Regular McFlurry with M&Ms : 23 grams
Snack size: 16 grams
Regular McFlurry with Oreo : 17 grams
Snack size: 12 grams
Snack size McFlurry with Rolo: 16 grams
1 apple pie: 13 grams
Cinnamon Melts: 19 grams
All McCafe Shake: 17 grams and up depending on size.
All Triple Thick Shake (21 oz cup, I believe this is a large) : 18 grams

[Ironpony]

That's great you were able to lose the weight Pooh! It's a hard thing to do even for people that don't have a bunch of medications involved. I have been taking atleast 10 grams of fat with my afternoon riba too. I take my morning dose of riba and incivek together so that's with 20 grams of fat. So that's 70 grams of fat a day! Blaaaah.
         I do prefer the fat in meats over potato chips and cheese because my body needs the extra protein right now to meet my caloric expectation.

[pooh55811]

i gained a lot of weight on Incivek but I have lost most of it since finishing Incivek, so if you gain a little, keep in mind it will probably come right back off once you are finshed eating so much fat.

[Ironpony]

Yeah the nausea comes but leaves very quickly. I am trying to balance eating all these fats, staying healthy and in my caloric range. I know gaining weight would not help with depression, so this is very important to me.
          It is so strange that these pills remind me of being pregnant so much. Nausea, food adversions, weakness. I had pregnancy induced anemia so this tiredness is so similar to me.
I do feel blessed I can finish my meals with fat so far...I'm sorry it seems a lot of people are too ill to even eat solid foods. :(

[pooh55811]

If your meal is not enough grams of fat, just eat something with whipping cream on it (like raspberries with whipping cream) as your dessert. Of course, a ham sandwich with butter and Mayo may very well have plenty of fat by itself. Great you have a good appetite. So many of us did not.

[Ironpony]

Thanks everyone...I'm going to go make a ham sandwich and take my 5pm incivek.

[micheall]

I started gaining weight from all the fat and lost it after stopping Incevek.

[Ironpony]

Haha yeah I see a goat cheese salad in my future;)

[crigger]

These are good fat choices. I ate a lot of cheese. I went and bought different cheeses to keep from getting bored . Love me some cheese.

[hrsepwrguy]

Any fats are acceptable, just be sure to take with food.

[pooh55811]

Yes, hot dogs and hamburger with cheese and fatty ham are great sources of the 20 grams of fat. It just has to be 20 grams of fat regardless of where you get it. It is much better to be eating solids than just liquids. If you use liquids for the fat, try to eat a piece of toast or some other solid food with it. but if you can eat meats, that is great.