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Feeling Stonger???

Hres a crazy question:
Has anyone treating gotten more bigger and musclular while on the TX drugs,i talked to my nurse yesterday anD asked if there Twere any streiods mixed in with th boceprevir....i seem to be explodng with muscle.and im losing fat...and i feel great....nurse says i just may be the virus has left you body....THIS DONT MAKE SENSE..am i the only freak here?
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Avatar_f_tn
"am i the only freak here?"

Hmm, shuffling foot back and forth, shaking head, reluctant to answer that.  LOL

Seriously, I have lost muscle tone.  Partly because of being so sedentary for many months and partly because of the interferon.  Over the last several months, I've become much more active and have noticed muscle tone increasing.  I've lost quite a bit of weight and didn't have any wiggle room in that area so muscle is effected when there is no fat to lose.  Can't comment on the Boce.

If you like the way you look, who cares right?

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I think you are right and no, you're not the only freak here.
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Avatar_m_tn
I work out while on treatment but I can't say I've added a lot of muscle mass. For me, it's been more about preventing muscle wasting and countering the impacts of the interferon. Can't speak to the bioceprevar though. I would ask if maybe you're not working out harder than before. I know for me, the treatment has made me pretty inward and working out is one of the few things I enjoy. Maybe you're just pumping a little extra weight.
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Avatar_f_tn
My b-oobs got bigger on tx. Hmmm, now they're going in reverse. Hope that doesn't happen to your muscles post-tx.
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Avatar_m_tn
You can't just make a statement like that without supporting evidence. We need photodocumentation.
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751342_tn?1297434382
Count your blessings, dude. I'm kind of taking the same route Marc is while school's out and doing some light weights to try to avoid further breakdown of the muscle I once had, and maybe give me a bit more energy. The only good thing is I'm really close to weighing what I want to weigh.
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Avatar_m_tn
Hres the freaky part....im not pumping weights at all...i thinl ill start and see what happens now...i feel as tho the "VIRUS HAS LEFT THE BUILDING"
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Avatar_m_tn
AND THE organic whey and eggs help too....in my last TX  i lost a lot of weight....my neck looked like broom handle....now im the hulk
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Avatar_f_tn
Do I also have to provide the numbers to make my case?

http://www.neversaydiet.com/files/photoshop_Alba_250%5B1%5D.jpg
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Avatar_m_tn
I could send a pic with my head chopped off.....just dont really want to advertise...i swear on my Fathers grave....i am telling you ive gotten huge...i was big all the way tru TX....but lately im expoloding
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Darn, I was so curious about the pic after reading your post, but could not get to it, as the address would not work.  So what are we looking at?
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Maybe women can't access the link but I will fix it asap. :)

Secret hint: It's not really me in the before and after photos but don't tell Desrt.

Hope you're doing well, April litter gal.
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Avatar_m_tn
If that you in the pic you posted?....where do you live and im taking the next flight

love super models
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92903_tn?1309908311

"You can't just make a statement like that without *supporting* evidence."

What she supposed  to do, submit a brassiere?

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"I could send a pic with my head chopped off...."

Now that's talent! I might could do it with one hand tied behind my back... but the sans head thing? I don't think so. Messy too.

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"where do you live and im taking the next flight"

Better re-attach the head first.... or else put it in a 1 liter zip loc bag for airport security.
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691935_tn?1282008141
too funny....

Don't know anything about the boceprevir but I've lost muscle.  My weight loss is about 10 lbs (19 wks to go). I've been trying Rocker's Organic Whey for about a week now, I'm getting good at making different flavors.  I swear I think I have more energy.
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I haven't seen much change at all..a little weight gain, a little weight loss.  I worked out pretty much thru until about week 38....now I am a total couch potato and have the loss of muscle to pruve it.....all fluffy and lumpy like a cloud.  Like a marshmellow  Or mashed potatoes.  

http://www.thespywhobilledme.com/the_spy_who_billed_me/WindowsLiveWriter/TheADNIResponds_A7B0/doughboy3%5B3%5D.jpg
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....i seem to be explodng with muscle.and im losing fat.  

Interferon has been known to affect eyesight as well.

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Avatar_m_tn
"One of my legs is shorther than the other and both of my feet are too long"
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Avatar_f_tn
Just started week 38 - 10 to go.  I'm a pudgy one, figured it is lack of excercise and desire/engery to excercise.  Walking try to do an hour a day now that the weather is better.  I too feel like a marshmallow, hoping I'll lose some after tx.  I just feel bloated.  I'm happy to hear you have a bodybuilders bod.  Like the Rock?

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29837_tn?1314410659
"My b-oobs got bigger on tx."

I'm sorry, but we need photographic proof before we believe you...

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29837_tn?1314410659
"One of my legs is shorther than the other and both of my feet are too long"

Did anything else beside your feet get too long? If so, I may be induced to start tx much sooner...

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Avatar_m_tn
Just doing shot # 30   of 36/48...time is flying by...i dont get headaches...no red spots...nothing..NO SIDES AT ALL
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691935_tn?1282008141
How are your labs?
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276730_tn?1327966546
While on tx I lost all muscle tone and got smaller.
Im 6 month post and some of it is coming back.


I never heard of anyone gaining muscle tone before while on tx??

Always a first time for everything I guess?
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This time round I definitely lost a lot of muscle-tone and a bit of weight, mainly due to the muscle loss i believe.  However, on my first tx I actually put ON weight (about 10kgs) and people commented on how great I looked.  Weird, and I have no explanation. I did feel I was 'exploding' but not in the incredible hulk way that rocker is talking about.

I just want to add here that for the past 9 months or however long I have been coming here I always type Rocker's name as Rockerfella.  Apropos of nothing but I've finally got it out!

Here's for the virus leaving the building, Rockerfella!
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Avatar_m_tn
My labs are "normal" range

Reds..11.8
Whites   1.3
AST/ALT   20

UN 2 weeks after starting the boceprevir and holding

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Avatar_m_tn
This is a pic of me with my head chopped off
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i lost fat while on tx and i was not working out or anything...size 12 to size 10...and i able to keep it off even after...  i do eat alot heather now that i have hep, low fat, no fast food, low sodium, more fruits and veggies, etc

i dont think i gained any muscle
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What little muscle tone I had after my transplant and subsequent infection, was certainly lost during TX. Now TX is complete some muscle tone is returning through normal activities. A little fat coming back, too: gotta watch that or I will be the walrus.

Port: When I saw the photoevidence, I tried to book a flight but my travel agent said all remaining seats were suddenly sold on the 28th and 29th??
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Rocker:  ...i seem to be explodng with muscle.and im losing fat.  

Bobby1952:  Interferon has been known to affect eyesight as well.

Trish:  Now that's funny.  :)
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Rocker, I am an endurance athlete.  I also lift weight two to three days a week.  I eat 6 times daily and drink 10 glasses of water daily, lots of vitamins, etc.  I am maintaining muscle mass and feeling very good too.  We may be lucky, it may also be that we actually do something to help ourselves instead of complaining as most do on this site.  It takes a lot of work to keep your quality of life up on treatment.  Prepare and follow through.  I think this is possible for many people that just do not know what they can do.

Take care of yourself, good luck.
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Well...i am really into health foods....maybe the TX drugs react to all the additives and presratives in commericial foods....i use a shower filter and dring distilled water and use chemicial free tooth paste and deoderants..i dont eat fish or meat...BTW...there is no such thing as organic fish...its all toxic...all my soaps are organic too...even my dish soap ...the scents from them are poision
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did you know that the chemicails they spray on fruits and veggies are designed to penetrate the flesh to the core...you can wash them till the cows come home...MOO
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691935_tn?1282008141
" it may also be that we actually do something to help ourselves instead of complaining as most do on this site"

T - just what makes you think everyone on this site does nothing to help themselves?  That was a very ignorant statement.  You are indeed fortunate if you have no sides or other illnesses but don't pretend to know why other people feel so poorly.
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Yes...i think that statement was a little over the top also...i think maybe an aploogy is in order...sure...there is alawys someone out there complaing all the time...but i do believe most here are hurting big time...what are you really trying to say?
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Lost 20 pounds the last 3 months on Weight Watchers. Reason was for my knee and to see if I can get down to under 160 for when I start treatment.

The more organic the food the better. I'm looking around for casiene protein powder because it is the slowest burning. Liver likes slower burning stuff.

I take a blend of Geoff and HR nutrients, leaving out a few of the expensive one. How is Geoff by the way or is this question off topic?
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Yuk/Rock, I spent a lot of time reading posts on this site for 10 weeks before my treatment so my opinion is not based on ignorance.  If you do a short study I think you may see too that there is a majority of posters that tend to focus more on problems and sides rather than solutions and prevention.  Perhaps those that have positive experiences do not post as much, perhaps those that need support are those that mostly are here.  I am sure there are many that do try to help themselves on the site, but there are also many people here that will not show openess to the possibility that maybe this TX can be better managed than has been the historical case.  There is lot of skepticism.  The TX is no picnic, it is a part time job, full time.

I hope everyone on this site beats this virus, it takes a lot of fight, persistence more fight and method.

I am half full, not half empty, I also do not want to hurt feeling.

I wish everyone luck.  Drink a 10 oz glass of water and go take a walk, or bike ride.  Get your head and spirit into your healing.  When you get back from exercise, have a healthy snack and get on with the evening.  Do it again and again even If it hurts.
Sincerely
T



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T - you still don't get it.  Some folks can't even get out of bed much more walk and ride a bike.  I think you need to read more posts and see if you get the bigger picture.  Tx and sx's are not the only things going on here.  Plus there are numerous published stats you could take a look at.

Re your comment: "posters that tend to focus more on problems and sides rather than solutions and prevention"  Like me, I would think the reason these folks are posting, in addition to gaining a better understanding, is to find tried & proven solutions.  I personally am tolerating the tx much better then I did the intial 3-4 months (except for my labs).  But, I currently have no known liver disease, thyroid problems, psoriasis, diabetes

It's great that you are managing it so well, but please, don't trivialize the problems of others.

-stacie
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Here's something to think about...The Hep C tx meds do all kinds of weird things to our bodies, as well as the hep C itself...Both affect EVERY system of our bodies, and wear on the one that is the most vulnerable because of something it is predisposed to...For example, the txing can throw a woman who is on the verge of starting menopause into it...It can shove that person who is a borderline diabetic into it fully...(Lovely, huh?) It can make well-controlled depression become so bad that the person commits suicide...

When I was doing treatment, it affected my female hormones within the first two months. Suddenly, I had enlarged breasts (okay with me!), morning nausea, and my periods stopped...(NO! I wasn't pregnant!) If the tx meds can affect my hormones like this, I'd imagine your testosterone levels might be tweaked as well! So, no...It probably isn't your imagination...By the way, I was RVR at the time and I COULD feel a difference...Like I had one less anchor on me...Glad to see you're doing great! ~MM
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Yuk, I have read so much published stuff it made my head spin.  I get it If folks are at different stages of disease, and or, are are looking for tried remedy/what works.

One could go on and many do with philosophical rants on the why's of this.  I just think there are some fundamental things folks can, may be should have, or could do that can make them more healthy, treatment, or not.  Wish they would/could can.

As for you.  I want your labs to be great.  Stay strong.  
Regards
T

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maybe they got your meds mixed up and you are actually taking some kind of steriods,be careful,your wont cure that way........
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You know, my girlfriend left me for Fabio, but have you seen him lately?
I think Rockerforlife is trying to help. I don’t necessarily think he is on drugs or mushrooms, and I don’t think he looks at his musculature in the mirror daily. His muscles may have exploded due to a natural phenomenon not from treatment.

As he is getting bigger and bigger, he will eventually need a bigger car, guitar, and other items to make him more comfortable. It's not nice to criticize a guy who has been gifted with thunderous muscle mass. Instead, you should rather encourage him to share his real secret. Otherwise, it's up to you...

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Im afraid to stop TX now...my hesd my explode
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You know Rocker, it’s an unfortunate scientific fact that when you work out to lose that massive amount of muscle mass you’ve acquired, your head will still remains the same size.

I personally feel that when you decide to stop your growth after stopping treatment and get back to you natural weight again, your head should also get smaller.

I think that anyone who works that hard to lose weight deserves a little head...

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691935_tn?1282008141
The only thing that got bigger on me was my eyelashes.  Soon they will be longer than my hair.
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Avatar_m_tn
Whas up with the eyelash syndrom (syndrome)?..why couldnt it be the hair on our heads that grows?
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It has taken a long time since my last failed treatment, but I want to report that not only did I recover, but I'm much stronger and faster than even before treatment. Here is a video to prove it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAE4zCrViFg

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LOL....very funny....that was me ruuning past the animals,i seen a veggie burger in a tree in the bush
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751342_tn?1297434382
"why couldnt it be the hair on our heads that grows?" Why couldn't it be the hair on our legs that falls out???!!
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