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Feral fungal toe nails

by Jane_s, Feb 15, 2005 12:00AM
a distasteful subject I know but I'm in week 39 of 48 and for about the last 2 months I have developed a fungal infection under one of my toenails. Apparently one of the causes of this type of infection is when your immune system is low, well hello -that is just one of my many side effects. I've been using the correct anti fungal stuff for this problem but to no avail. HAs anyone else had this problem, anyone got any solutions, or do I just wait out the next 9 weeks until my immune system starts to pick up again... thanks guys
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by TnHepGuy_, Feb 15, 2005 12:00AM
To: jane_s
I'm sorry to hear of your sx. I had/have a surface-skin fungal infection that occured around the same point of my tx as yours has. I have been putting an anti-fungal cream on it for months now - and the best I can do is keep it in semi-check.

It's now 5 1/2 weeks since I've ended tx and I think my immune system is just beginning to get to the point of being able to work on the infection in conjunction with the ointment. Though it's been so long now that I wouldn't be surprised to see the low-grade infection continue on for a fair amount longer.

If you can, go and see a dermatologist and explain that your immune system is compromised. Ask for the strongest medication that works against your particular infection - of course always checking with the doctor, pharmacist and drug company to be sure of it's toxicity (or lack there of) upon the liver.


Hopefully, you can knock this out real soon - or at least keep it in check until your immune system rebounds.


TnHepGuy

by retired 98, Feb 15, 2005 12:00AM

I have not done treatment, but have had experience with toe nail fungus.  It it difficult to treat and the only effective treatment that I have found are oral perscription medicines.  These are very liver toxic.  On one occasion, I developed drug induced hepatitis as the result of taking one of these drugs.  My bloodwork went crazy and my skin turned yellow.  Everything returned to normal once I stopped taking the medicine.  This was before I had hcv.

I would suggest that you wait until you have finished treatment and cleared the virus before considering these medications.

by Ambush, Feb 15, 2005 12:00AM
To: jane_s
I also acquired a fungal infection in a toenail during tx.  I'm 6 months post tx now and still can't get rid of it.  I'm using one of the liquid drug store "cures" to no avail.  I hesitate to ask for oral meds for it because of the liver consequences.  I just keep hoping it will resolve, but am not very optimistic. Maybe someone will come along with some ideas?
ambush

by Honey15637, Feb 15, 2005 12:00AM
Yep,,,also got that and everyone is right,,,a prescription for it can not be great for liver.  I read somewhere that you could rub vicks right on toenail in morning and night and it takes awhile,,,about a month,,,doing this everyday...but it did clear it for me.  Yep,,,vicks vapor rub and its so much cheaper also!

by zitface, Feb 15, 2005 12:00AM
An Old Time cure for toenail fungus is take a footbath and fill with 1 inch corn meal and enough warm water to cover toes... about another inch.  Soak feet for 15 to 20 minutes nightly for a month.  It sounds hard to do, but it works.  My step dad did this and we could look at his feet without throwing up after a while.  His fungal infections were so bad, but this treatment worked.  I think my mom read about it in Reader's Digest.  good luck

by wkwithit, Feb 16, 2005 12:00AM
There's something natural called Leucatin.  It's supposed to work....I saw it on TV.   Either that or Lamisil in pill form  but it csn br toxic to the liver and you have to take it for 6 months.

by DRAGON SLAYER, Feb 16, 2005 12:00AM

Maybe I can propose a solution since I have suffered from a nail fungal infection during Tx & by using the below described product I resolved this problem.
Good luck all,
Ben

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by cuteus, Feb 16, 2005 12:00AM
it is very hard and takes committment. i also heard of the vicks cure.
i have been using an ointment on the nail Myco-triacet II. nytastin works also. all prescribed.  it takes months to clear it, but won't hurt the liver like the orals. mine was there before tx. i think the fungus is always lurking, waiting to pounce at the first chance.
one time i started a regimen of daily vit b complex 50 mg, vit c 500, vit a & d, and vit E, just to feel better. a month or so later a toe nail fungus went away, never to come back. 20 yrs ago.  i should try it again.. nice side effect.

by Lynne5477, Feb 16, 2005 12:00AM
To: jane-s
Yep, got the toenail fungus.  In fact, on one foot it spread to all the toenails, other foot just the big toenail.  Both my GI and my Internist said they did not think tx and the low WBC had anything to do with it.  Go figure.  Anyway, once I finished tx, I did get a RX for Lamisil.  You take it for 90 days and they test your LFTs every 4-6 wks while you are taking it.  I takes 9-12 months for new toenails to grow out.  Mine are now about 1/3 grown out with nice clear nails.
   My GI said this would have no effect on my SVR but it was a good idea to finish tx first in case the LFTs spiked.
   Suggest you check with your dr and see what you can get.
   I'm hoping mine are grown out enough by summer that I can wear polish and sandals this year.

Good luck to you.

by jevs2, Feb 16, 2005 12:00AM
To: jane s
I had candida while on treatment. The only thing that worked for me was to cut out all yeast and sugar from my diet as this feeds the 'fungus monster'. So no bread and no fermented foods, mustard, vinegar, check labels on everything you eat. Best to steer clear of refined foods altogether.
Best wishes
Joanna
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